Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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Yeah, I get it, no one's perfect. Trump's really a good Christian guy at heart, just a little misunderstood. I feel ya.
Get a clue. Trump is the bulwark America needs to defend itself from the assaults of the nutter Bolsheviks.
And organized human trafficers and paedophiles as well.

His beliefs, whatever they might be, are private and none of my business.
 

Smoke

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Yeah, I get it, no one's perfect. Trump's really a good Christian guy at heart, just a little misunderstood. I feel ya.
Eh, I wasn't commenting on his Christianhood or making a claim he is good or bad, other than implying he and I are both in need of the Savior Jesus Christ.

I was really wanting to engage with man's subjective morally on the "curse words" though. Do you think if Trump used replacement words it would have been better? Genuine question.
 

cv5

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I find RA's whole assault against decent Americans, that happened to be Christians, that love their country, offensive and vulgar, with his "Christain Nationalists" will take over the country and change the Constitution NONSENSE!!
Its the Bolshevik pedophile groomers like Walz and their DS puppets like Kamalatov that are the imminent and greatest threat.
The Christian nationalist? They can be dealt with at a later time.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Yeah, I get it, no one's perfect. Trump's really a good Christian guy at heart, just a little misunderstood. I feel ya.
I've done my share of ripping on Trump for being who Trump is but let's examine the Presidency Lineage for a moment here.

George Washington went to Church but his own Pastor wrote he believed George was a Deist who only thought of Jesus as a man like himself and nothing more. And we see this even more evident knowing he was a high ranking Freemason and a Fraternal Leader. And Freemasonry is as about as Demonic as Witchcraft.

We see the same with John Adams and look at his own son John Q who wrote the Treaty of Tripoli that blatantly claims:
Article 11 of the treaty stated: “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"

We even have letters between John Q and Thomas Jefferson both claiming to be Atheist and used the Church along with fellow Atheist/Freemason Thomas Paine who wrote the Age of Reasoning that explains the Government of the Colony tricked the Church concerning Religious freedom because they needed men to go to war against the English.

It's so bad we can only get away with saying the USA is founded upon God by going back to Plymouth Rock where the first Pilgrims dedicated the new land to God.

Bottom line is simple, all of the Presidents have been worthless in a sense of true Christian Morals. But generally a Leader is not elected based upon Morals but getting the job done. And whether any of us like it, more people from Lower to Middle Class made more money when Trump was in Office. The Markets were literally better than playing the Lottery which shocked me that people were making so much yield that they would vote someone else in to stop it.

And honestly, remove Covid from the equation, Trump did a decent job including he's one of the first ever Presidents to not get us into a War.

So who cares if he cusses like a Sailor or acts like a Caveman, he's the best person to actually get things done.
 

cv5

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Wow. Anybody hear of this?

 

ZNP

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Trump in Prison, Planned NWO & Iran Revival 08/16/2024

 

cv5

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Links to China huh? As if we did not already know about his love of that communist regime and his many MANY secretive trips there.

Simon Ateba on X: "BREAKING - Tim Walz Under GOP Investigation for Alleged Links to China: The GOP Oversight Committee (@GOPoversight) has just now announced that "Chairman James Comer has launched an investigation into Minnesota Governor Timothy Walz, Kamala Harris’s recently announced https://t.co/xlZNQw3SoH" / X

In a statement, the committee wrote, "Mr. Walz has visited China 30 times, served as a fellow at a Chinese institution that maintains a devotion to the CCP, and spoke alongside the President of a Chinese organization the State Department exposed as a CCP effort to influence and co-opt local leaders.
 

JayBird

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At least 50% of the country did not believe Joe Biden got 81 million votes, but most couldn't prove it.
This was an issue that came up a lot in my old church. Some folks were convinced that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, while others kept asking why if that was true, why Trump and his lawyers couldn't prove any of it in court.

So is it your view that the election was stolen, even though there's no proof?
 

JayBird

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You have sounded the alarm, all the Democrats including Kamala and Biden have heard this, what have they done? Shouldn't that tell us something?
Well to be fair, President Biden asked the Republican House for additional funds to increase the number of agents at the border, for increased surveillance technology, for more detention facilities, and other resources.

House Republicans denied those requests.

Then President Biden worked with Senate Republicans to develop the bipartisan immigration reform bill that would have severely rolled back the asylum system, sped up deportations, and added lots of new agents at the border. The Republican House refused to even allow it to come to a vote under orders from Trump, who even said we should blame him for it.

After that, President Biden issued his executive order and effectively closed the border.

All of that is something, right?
 

JayBird

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There are plenty of people today who think there is no proof that Jesus arose from the tomb either.
Yep, that's for sure sad as it is.

Are you saying that "the 2020 election was stolen" is a matter of faith?
 

Cameron143

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Well to be fair, President Biden asked the Republican House for additional funds to increase the number of agents at the border, for increased surveillance technology, for more detention facilities, and other resources.

House Republicans denied those requests.

Then President Biden worked with Senate Republicans to develop the bipartisan immigration reform bill that would have severely rolled back the asylum system, sped up deportations, and added lots of new agents at the border. The Republican House refused to even allow it to come to a vote under orders from Trump, who even said we should blame him for it.

After that, President Biden issued his executive order and effectively closed the border.

All of that is something, right?
Not what was in the bill. The original bill from the House had all that. The bill that came out of the Senate did not.
 

Mem

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Yep, that's for sure sad as it is.

Are you saying that "the 2020 election was stolen" is a matter of faith?
Proving that something is missing would be easier to prove than proving something there shouldn't be counted as legitimate. Someone kept harping on about something along the lines that it's Repubs fault because the 'shouldn't have counted the presidency won and stopped voting and "kept on voting throughout the night," which basically implies that is what the Dems did and so that's how they won.
:unsure: lol, but, nobody let the Repubs in on the fact that the polls weren't actually closed until Biden won. :ROFL:
 

Magenta

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17 Like one who grabs a stray dog by the ears is someone who rushes into a quarrel not their own. 18 Like a maniac shooting flaming arrows of death 19 is one who deceives their neighbor and says, “I was only joking!” 20 Without wood a fire goes out; without a gossip a quarrel dies down.

Proverbs 26:17-19 Like one who grabs a stray dog by the ears is someone who rushes into a quarrel not their own. Like a maniac shooting flaming arrows of death is one who deceives their neighbor and says, “I was only joking!”