Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?
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I actually think Joe Rogan will be tough but fair with them both really. This after all might even be the crown jewel of his career and show. Of course seeing the Kamala Cringefest from paling around with Diddy's friend Oprah to drinking beers with Colbert during the hurricanes that Kamala really might self-destruct even if he too were to pitch her softballs. Though indeed like some are speculating it is something of last ditch effort that could reasonably help her should she do well, it really will be her first critical interview for the topic. If we factor in the potential Trump for some reason melts down like Joe Biden, she could reasonably win the election fair and square without rigging, though I find that to be unlikely. Unless another formal debate is agreed to then these Joe Rogan interviews will make the difference really between a tight election and Trump just winning in a crushing landslide indeed and we can move forward to making the most of God's mercy and blessings.. Either way the last of all excuses for both candidates and all America for choosing the blessings or the curses and the judgment thereof being swiftly executed to the praise of God.
The Donald is very open about his support for in vitro fertilization (IVF). He's very proud of getting Roe v. Wade overturned, but I wonder if he realizes that IVF murders the unborn as well. When an IVF procedure is performed, many eggs are fertilized; the ones that end up not being needed are destroyed. If life begins at conception, millions of unborn babies are murdered by this. Seems like he wants to have his cake and eat it too.
In unilateral covenants, God is responsible for upholding the terms of the agreement. That is what makes the covenants eternal, because they cannot fail because God cannot fail.
Conversely, when sinful man is responsible for keeping the terms of a covenant, they will always fail and are only for a time. At the end of that time, the sanctions agreed upon must be applied.
What book of the Bible might deal with the application of those sanctions, the end of the covenant, and a plan moving forward?
Conversely, when sinful man is responsible for keeping the terms of a covenant, they will always fail and are only for a time. At the end of that time, the sanctions agreed upon must be applied.
What book of the Bible might deal with the application of those sanctions, the end of the covenant, and a plan moving forward?
So then that is the point of this doctrine to say that sinful man has failed to keep his side of the deal and so you cannot trust that God will be faithful. I suppose this is enough to shake every person's faith. I wonder if there is anyone foolish enough to think they can condemn Jews for being sinful but not worry about that for themselves.
You missed my point. Adam was initially under a works covenant with 1 commandment. He failed.
Israel was under a works covenant with 613 commandments. They failed.
Jesus was under a works covenant with 613 commandments and other stipulations. He was successful.
Because He was successful, I am under a covenant of grace.
So while I believe men are unfaithful, I in no way believe God is unfaithful.
What I was attempting to do was place the book of Revelation within the context of the Bible. More specifically, I was showing the relationship between Revelation and Deuteronomy in regard to the covenant God made with Israel.
Israel was under a works covenant with 613 commandments. They failed.
Jesus was under a works covenant with 613 commandments and other stipulations. He was successful.
Because He was successful, I am under a covenant of grace.
So while I believe men are unfaithful, I in no way believe God is unfaithful.
What I was attempting to do was place the book of Revelation within the context of the Bible. More specifically, I was showing the relationship between Revelation and Deuteronomy in regard to the covenant God made with Israel.
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I’m starting to believe something awful could happen in the next couple weeks. It’s looking like Trump may win big even with all the expected democrat cheating.
I think it’s very possible the Democrats and deep state, seeing how badly they may lose, unleash one or more of the many horrors they have in their quiver.
Internet completely down?
Nuke going off somewhere?
Wake up the foreign sleeper cells they imported here?
Something else?
Hillary said there’d be an October surprise. I’m going to believe her.
I think it’s very possible the Democrats and deep state, seeing how badly they may lose, unleash one or more of the many horrors they have in their quiver.
Internet completely down?
Nuke going off somewhere?
Wake up the foreign sleeper cells they imported here?
Something else?
Hillary said there’d be an October surprise. I’m going to believe her.
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God made a covenant with sinful man knowing they could not keep the covenant and when they failed he put an end to the covenant. That is your position.
The God that has saved us is the same God that made the covenant with Israel. If He ditches them because they failed you are telling me that He will ditch me if I fail.
So then that is the point of this doctrine to say that sinful man has failed to keep his side of the deal and so you cannot trust that God will be faithful. I suppose this is enough to shake every person's faith. I wonder if there is anyone foolish enough to think they can condemn Jews for being sinful but not worry about that for themselves.
You say you are under grace, but our Lord hates sin every bit as much as He did when He made the covenant with the Jews.
The God that has saved us is the same God that made the covenant with Israel. If He ditches them because they failed you are telling me that He will ditch me if I fail.
So then that is the point of this doctrine to say that sinful man has failed to keep his side of the deal and so you cannot trust that God will be faithful. I suppose this is enough to shake every person's faith. I wonder if there is anyone foolish enough to think they can condemn Jews for being sinful but not worry about that for themselves.
You say you are under grace, but our Lord hates sin every bit as much as He did when He made the covenant with the Jews.
Come on man, no way! If he draws the line at IVF then he has surely made a very strong stand against abortion and against the Democrats and especially against Kamala Harris. Surely. Come on RA don't let them say this about you, simply point them to all your posts condemning abortion and the Democrats and leftists position on abortion. @ResidentAlien
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I would say ten nukes going off in ten US cities after Damascus becomes a ruinous heap and the entire electric grid of the US collapsing followed by Mad Max like mayhem in the streets. By now everyone should be braced for what is coming and no doubt everyone has moved at least five miles away from the coast.
Did God make a covenant with fallen man? Yes. Was it always doomed to failure? Yes. Why? Because of the weakness of human nature after sin.
Does that mean Jews couldn't be saved? No. Grace was always available. Adam began under a works covenant, but was saved by grace when God shed blood on his behalf and clothed him in an acceptable covering. Noah found grace in the sight of the Lord. Abraham was saved by grace through faith. And every Jew who placed their hope in Messiah and not the righteousness that comes from the law throughout history have been saved.
But no one has ever been saved by keeping the law. And no one ever will. But anyone, at any time, could place their trust in God.
Does that mean Jews couldn't be saved? No. Grace was always available. Adam began under a works covenant, but was saved by grace when God shed blood on his behalf and clothed him in an acceptable covering. Noah found grace in the sight of the Lord. Abraham was saved by grace through faith. And every Jew who placed their hope in Messiah and not the righteousness that comes from the law throughout history have been saved.
But no one has ever been saved by keeping the law. And no one ever will. But anyone, at any time, could place their trust in God.
There is a second Passover in the Old Covenant for those who missed the first Passover because they were made unclean by death (the Jewish religion) and for those who have been away on a long trip (Jesus).
The Jews will get a second chance at saying "Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord"
The Jews will get a second chance at saying "Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord"
I believe Romans 11 is clear, and there will be large numbers of Jews saved after the fulness of the Gentiles is fulfilled. But they won't be saved under the old covenant. Even the Passover is about faith...believing that the blood of the Lamb saves them. Placing the blood on the door post was an act of faith. In eating the lamb they were identifying themselves with Messiah. These acts were merely religious ritual without the attendant internal reality. That would merely be drawing near to God with their lips while their hearts remained far from Him. God often chastised Israel in this condition.
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2 reasons:
1. It no longer exists
2. Even if it did, no one besides Jesus has ever attained to the righteousness of the law
But listen to what you wrote: the old covenant promised Messiah. That's right. We all need a Savior to provide our righteousness. The old covenant demanded perfect obedience to the law. Failing in any point meant being guilty of the whole law. This was meant to show that the law, because of the weakness of the flesh, could never provide a righteousness greater than that of the scribes and Pharisees. This should have led them to seek another means of righteousness. Instead, they dumbed down the law so that they thought they were keeping it and attaining unto righteousness. Jesus provided a righteousness apart from the law. So even those who turned to Him would need to be under grace, and not the law. That's the new covenant.
1. It no longer exists
2. Even if it did, no one besides Jesus has ever attained to the righteousness of the law
But listen to what you wrote: the old covenant promised Messiah. That's right. We all need a Savior to provide our righteousness. The old covenant demanded perfect obedience to the law. Failing in any point meant being guilty of the whole law. This was meant to show that the law, because of the weakness of the flesh, could never provide a righteousness greater than that of the scribes and Pharisees. This should have led them to seek another means of righteousness. Instead, they dumbed down the law so that they thought they were keeping it and attaining unto righteousness. Jesus provided a righteousness apart from the law. So even those who turned to Him would need to be under grace, and not the law. That's the new covenant.
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