CRT What is It, Is is Dangerous?

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kaylagrl

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Fill me in on what you know about Critical Race Theory. Any books, links, videos. Wanting to do a more in depth study. Also what's your opinion on the issue? Thanks.
 
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SophieT

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interesting topic. I started doing research on it some wks back and the first thing I noticed, is that 'put a pin through it' information is actually hard to find. something I don't think has been mentioned on tv, is that it is (apparently) a 40 yr old construct that is being resurrected

this is what most people seem to be understanding about it: Is “critical race theory” a way of understanding how American racism has shaped public policy, or a divisive discourse that pits people of color against white people? Liberals and conservatives are in sharp disagreement.

The topic has exploded in the public arena this spring—especially in K-12, where numerous state legislatures are debating bills seeking to ban its use in the classroom.

In truth, the divides are not nearly as neat as they may seem. The events of the last decade have increased public awareness about things like housing segregation, the impacts of criminal justice policy in the 1990s, and the legacy of enslavement on Black Americans. But there is much less consensus on what the government’s role should be in righting these past wrongs. Add children and schooling into the mix and the debate becomes especially volatile.

Following (from the same site) is what everyone is up in arms about. the broadbrush paining of the US as a country with racisim at its core and slavery as its foundation. (you might have heard of the 1619 project? The 1619 Project is an ongoing initiative from The New York Times Magazine that began in August 2019, the 400th anniversary of the beginning of American slavery. It aims to reframe the country’s history by placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of our national narrative.
Read more about The 1619 Project. )


above is a brief synopsis of what you can find online, depending on your search perimeters and which side of the debate you are actually on. parents of all colors are up in arms about it because now it is being introduced to children in grade school and the core ideas are that whites are privileged and blacks (or other minorities) are never going to have the same opportunities and whites are basically racist and blacks are continually striving to overcome that.

you will find CRT dressed up in all kinds of very scholarly sounding verbiage that makes it sound scientific, however the bias is palatable. discussion is ongoing and pushed to the forefront (in my opinion) by the use of the word 'theory' Certain states are now banning the teaching of CRT

can of worms
 
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SophieT

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here is another sample:

WHAT IS CRITICAL RACE THEORY?

Critical race theory is a way of thinking about America’s history through the lens of racism. Scholars developed it during the 1970s and 1980s in response to what they viewed as a lack of racial progress following the civil rights legislation of the 1960s.

It centers on the idea that racism is systemic in the nation’s institutions and that they function to maintain the dominance of white people in society.

The architects of the theory argue that the United States was founded on the theft of land and labor and that federal law has preserved the unequal treatment of people on the basis of race. Proponents also believe race is culturally invented, not biological.

Kimberlé Crenshaw, executive director of the African American Policy Forum, a social justice think tank based in New York City, was one of the early proponents. Initially, she says, it was “simply about telling a more complete story of who we are.”

IS CRITICAL RACE THEORY BEING TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS?

There is little to no evidence that critical race theory itself is being taught to K-12 public school students, though some ideas central to it, such as lingering consequences of slavery, have been. In Greenwich, Connecticut, some middle school students were given a “white bias” survey that parents viewed as part of the theory.

Republicans in North Carolina point to the Wake County Public School System as an example, saying teachers participated in a professional development session on critical race theory. County education officials canceled a future study session once it was discovered but insist the theory is not part of its classroom curriculum.

“Critical race theory is not something we teach to students,” said Lisa Luten, a spokeswoman for the school system. “It’s more of a theory in academia about race that adults use to discuss the context of their environment.”

the above is not true; is is being taught and being introduced to children as young as 6 and 7 which is why parents of all colors are up in arms and stating they do not want their children taught hatred or to look upon their classmates of different color with suspicion and dislike

again, can of worms
 
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SophieT

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WHY ARE REPUBLICANS UPSET?

Many Republicans view the concepts underlying critical race theory as an effort to rewrite American history and persuade white people that they are inherently racist and should feel guilty because of their advantages.

remember that 1619 project? it seems Republicans (it's not just Repubs, but the article is biased) have a reason to be upset

now, the flag is under attack. on it goes.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Nehemiah6

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Fill me in on what you know about Critical Race Theory. Any books, links, videos. Wanting to do a more in depth study. Also what's your opinion on the issue? Thanks.
From what I have gathered, it is simply a re-interpretation of American history so that Black Racism can be made into government policy. Here are the MARXIST LIES which everyone is expected to believe unquestioningly.

1. All whites are racist (and that's a fact!).
2. America was founded on racism, not liberty and justice for all.
3. The Constitution is racist, and so is every law in America.
4. "Systemic racism" is embedded in everything in America.
5. Whites owe the moon to blacks (and then some).
6. Americans owe trillions of dollars in reparations to blacks because their ancestors were slaves.
7. No crimes committed by blacks are to be prosecuted, and black criminals should always get a free pass.
8. Anti-white discrimination should now be official government policy.
9. The Demoncrats are the saviors of America, and all others should be persecuted and jailed.
10. There should be absolutely no barrier to illegal voting, so that the Demoncrats can remain in power forever.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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CRT is basically an effort by black and brown Americans (mostly black) to make sure their traumatic history is NEVER whitewashed or forgotten. One way to accomplish this, and to make sure that their history is remembered long into the future, is to make sure that the current/modern-day/future whites are seen as oppressors and/or accomplices of the whites of the past so the story continues. Over time history becomes faded or even forgotten, little details get lost. However, if history is kept "alive" it will not be forgotten. By making people accountable ("pay") for their actions or reminding people of past injustices, black Americans believe they are achieving a form of long due liberation, or to the extreme, achieving revenge.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Legally speaking yes black Americans achieved liberation a long time ago, in the 1960s. However, let's remember this liberation was not welcomed by many white Americans (especially in the South). Let's not forget, President Johnson had to send in federal agents to walk black students into white schools.
 
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SophieT

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CRT is basically an effort by black and brown Americans (mostly black) to make sure their traumatic history is NEVER whitewashed or forgotten. One way to accomplish this, and to make sure that their history is remembered long into the future, is to make sure that the current/modern-day/future whites are seen as oppressors and/or accomplices of the whites of the past so the story continues. Over time history becomes faded or even forgotten, little details get lost. However, if history is kept "alive" it will not be forgotten. By making people accountable ("pay") for their actions or reminding people of past injustices, black Americans believe they are achieving a form of long due liberation, or to the extreme, achieving revenge.
Legally speaking yes black Americans achieved liberation a long time ago, in the 1960s. However, let's remember this liberation was not welcomed by many white Americans (especially in the South). Let's not forget, President Johnson had to send in federal agents to walk black students into white schools.
are you aware that the 'southerners' you speak of were ALL Democrats? they would like us all to forget that. The KKK were Democrats and legislation to keep blacks segregated was ALL initiated by Democrats. yes, Johnson was a Democrat. It would not be true to state every single Democrat was a segregationist, yet history (which so many are now trying to change) reveals that Repubs were the ones wanting to end slavery and against segregation

Democrats have tried to appear as the party of the underdog, but they are not and never were.

By making people accountable ("pay") for their actions or reminding people of past injustices, black Americans believe they are achieving a form of long due liberation, or to the extreme, achieving revenge.
not even close. I guess you are not aware of the fact that many black Americans are also up in arms against CRT and see it as more hatred being generated and division as well

Painting with such a broadbrush does nothing but create misperceptions and more angst, not to mention division and mistrust

Do you think that the US was actually founded on slavery and was formed in 1619?
 
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TheIndianGirl

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are you aware that the 'southerners' you speak of were ALL Democrats? they would like us all to forget that. The KKK were Democrats and legislation to keep blacks segregated was ALL initiated by Democrats. yes, Johnson was a Democrat. It would not be true to state every single Democrat was a segregationist, yet history (which so many are now trying to change) reveals that Repubs were the ones wanting to end slavery and against segregation

Democrats have tried to appear as the party of the underdog, but they are not and never were.
Wait, what? You need to read more carefully. I wasn't talking about political parties. Yes, I am already aware of that part of history - the Republicans were more involved in bringing forth desegregation. Johnson then pressured the Democrats to vote for civil rights threatening they would lose the Black vote forever if they don't.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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not even close. I guess you are not aware of the fact that many black Americans are also up in arms against CRT and see it as more hatred being generated and division as well

Painting with such a broadbrush does nothing but create misperceptions and more angst, not to mention division and mistrust
BLM and their many supporters like CRT... you need to check out other news sources. The "many" black Americans you reference are probably in the minority.
 
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SophieT

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BLM and their many supporters like CRT... you need to check out other news sources. The "many" black Americans you reference are probably in the minority.
you are not helping yourself. I quoted sites that are FOR CRT...you seem to be simply for CRT with nothing noteworthy to say

the many black Americans are not in the minority. actually? YOU are in the minority because you do not comprehend what CRT is nor it seems, BLM
 
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SophieT

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Wait, what? You need to read more carefully. I wasn't talking about political parties. Yes, I am already aware of that part of history - the Republicans were more involved in bringing forth desegregation. Johnson then pressured the Democrats to vote for civil rights threatening they would lose the Black vote forever if they don't.
oh do you need to mention a political party for me to be able to mention it?
 
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SophieT

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here IndianGirl

one of those 'minority' black mothers you do not find to credibly exist

 

Nehemiah6

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CRT is basically an effort by black and brown Americans (mostly black) to make sure their traumatic history is NEVER whitewashed or forgotten.
FALSE. It is a Marxist/Communist Plot to use race to divide America and keeping tensions at a boiling point so that lawlessness and anarchy prevail. Do you seriously believe that BLM gives a hoot about poor underprivileged blacks? The woman leading BLM grabbed millions of dollars for herself so that she could buy mansions and live in white communities. So the hypocrisy should be obvious.

CRT is Satanic and evil, and blacks were not being held back in any way until Obama decided to bring out the race card for his own evil plans. CRT and Communists should have been banned in America long ago.
 

Nehemiah6

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you are not helping yourself. I quoted sites that are FOR CRT...you seem to be simply for CRT with nothing noteworthy to say

the many black Americans are not in the minority. actually? YOU are in the minority because you do not comprehend what CRT is nor it seems, BLM
"...majorities of African Americans (68%) and those between the ages of 30 and 44 (52%) hold a favorable view of critical race theory. A larger majority of African Americans (75%) believe that teaching critical race theory is beneficial to the U.S., while 52% of Americans between the ages of 30 and 44 hold the same view...,"

https://www.christianpost.com/news/...crt-but-most-other-americans-say-its-bad.html

All the black Americans I know support BLM (not the extremist elements like looting) and probably CRT.
 

Nehemiah6

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"...majorities of African Americans (68%) and those between the ages of 30 and 44 (52%) hold a favorable view of critical race theory.
Of course, if everything is skewed in your favor, you too will hold a favorable view of any government policy. You get your freebies as well as a free pass regardless of what you do. But here's the MARXIST LIE:

"CRT holds that America is fundamentally racist, yet it teaches people to view every social interaction and person in terms of race. Its adherents pursue “antiracism” through the end of merit, objective truth and the adoption of race-based policies."

So in the end Black Racism will replace White Racism. Isn't that lovely?
 
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CRT is evil, is a myth, is part of the cultural marxist movement that began in the USA in the 1930's, and essentially says "everything is racist." Brother Voddie Baucham explains it here: