Dear Church of England......Please take not to verse 12

[Zinzerio]

Dear American friends you keep telling Obama to keep his noise out of other peoples affairs
but ya keep poking ya noses in ours. where it hurts.

dear Americans i am sure your well aware that each person is accountable for there actions and the first women bishop is not a preacher for the The Bishop gives the speech and the preacher does the research..........................

 

[Zinzerio]

Dear American friends the scenario preacher pastures in the church, the sermon is about to take place.
a holy women is there speaking in tongues another holy lady is interpreting it in church.

Now this means to me that something holy can not be kept from the lord...second scenario the pasture guy preachers collapses on the alter the 500 strong crowd are getting impatient the only person who can read his teaching is the holy lady.

 

[Stephen63]

Give me one example of a woman leading anything christian.

Serving, yes.

Having spiritual gifts, yes.

No leadership. Not in the church.

Colossians 4:15 (NASB) [SUP]15 [/SUP]Greet the brethren who are in Laodicea and also Nympha and the church that is in her house.

 

[Stephen63]

Give me one example of a woman leading anything christian.

Serving, yes.

Having spiritual gifts, yes.

No leadership. Not in the church.

Another woman house-pastor was Priscilla. Romans 16:3-5 expresses his gratitude to her and her husband, Aquilla. This couple had a team ministry and worked with Paul in planting the gospel in Rome, Corinth and Ephesus. In his Roman letter, Paul sends greetings to the church that met in their house, which they pastored together.

It has often been pointed out by Greek scholars that Paul's practice of mentioning Prisca's name before that of her husband emphasizes that she was the more prominent leader. Just as today we would address a letter "Mr. and Mrs.," so in ancient times, the husband's name was customarily given before the wife's. Prisca must have been an outstanding Christian worker for Paul to have reversed custom by honoring her in this way.

 

[prodigal]

by the way there is no homosexuals in my church of england church,

here's some facts before we chuck the church tottally in the dung pile,


1.7 millionpeople take part in a Church of England service each month

3 million people participate in a Church of England service on Christmas Day or Christmas Eve

Thirty-fiveper cent of the population attend a Christmas service of some sort, rising to 42 per cent in London, nationally, and 22 per cent among those of non-Christian faiths.

• The Church of England has the largest following of any denomination or faith in Britain today. More than 4 in 10 in England regard themselves as belongingto the Church of England, while 6 in 10 consider themselves Christian.

Each year 3 in 10 attend regular Sunday worship and more than 4 in 10 attend a wedding in their local church, while still more attend a funeral there

43 per cent of adults attended a church or place of worship for a memorial service for someone who has died and 17 per cent were seeking a quiet space

Every year, around 12 million people visit Church of England cathedrals, including 300,000 pupils on school visits.

• Seven in ten (72%) of the population agree that Church of England schools help young people to grow into responsible members of society and 8 in 10(80%) agree that they promote good behaviour and positive attitudes.

• Latest available statistics indicate one in four primary schools and one in 16secondary schools in England are Church of England schools. Approaching one million pupils are educated in more than 4,700 Church of England schools.

there are more than 20.000 ministers licensed by Church of England dioceses, including clergy, readers and Church Army officers: one minister for every 2,500 people in England. The total does not include more than 1,600chaplains to prisons, hospitals, the armed forces and in education, nor around7,190 retired ministers with permission to officiate.

More people do unpaid work for church organisations than any other organisation.

• The Church of England provides activities outside church worship in the local community for 407,000 children and young people (aged under 16 years) and 32,900 young people (aged 16 to 25 years). More than 116,000volunteers and an additional 4900 employed adults run children/young people activity groups sponsored by the Church of England outside church worship.

so remember to replace all that if we gonna scrap the church of england

we are commanded to have physical fellowship, it amazes me many finger pointers have no church themselves and ignore the fellowship command giving new meaning to the word fellowship to fit their preferred position. Jesus wasn't happy with all that went on in the mosques but he didn't hold it against the congregation, and even went there himself to teach.

 

[Zinzerio]

And further more there are two kinds of schools in England one is the church of England school
(and the other is the catholic school.)

Do we throw all the kids out of school and put them into the catholic schools ?.

Or should we go to back to the ways of burning women at the stake for being witches ?

Should we all wait untill this women bishops stands in church and then we could follow her around with a huge banner expressing our anger ?

while where at it should we burn our first women bishop at the stake,,,

and the way i see it is this ya can put the dung in the church of England as much as you like i will not rise to this proper guanda

exactly what would you like to take place ?

 

[Zinzerio]

The Dragon Persecutes the Woman
13And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent ///away from the dragons of this world......

 

[Zinzerio]

Exodus 19:4
You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles' wings and brought you to myself.

Deuteronomy 32:11
like an eagle that stirs up its nest and hovers over its young, that spreads its wings to catch them and carries them aloft.

Isaiah 40:31
but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.



Daniel 12:7
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."

Revelation 12:6
The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

 

[Zinzerio]

in other words stop the shouting stop the scary behavior the women are fleeing

 

[jeremy1981]

by the way there is no homosexuals in my church of england church,

here's some facts before we chuck the church tottally in the dung pile,


1.7 millionpeople take part in a Church of England service each month

3 million people participate in a Church of England service on Christmas Day or Christmas Eve

Thirty-fiveper cent of the population attend a Christmas service of some sort, rising to 42 per cent in London, nationally, and 22 per cent among those of non-Christian faiths.

• The Church of England has the largest following of any denomination or faith in Britain today. More than 4 in 10 in England regard themselves as belongingto the Church of England, while 6 in 10 consider themselves Christian.

Each year 3 in 10 attend regular Sunday worship and more than 4 in 10 attend a wedding in their local church, while still more attend a funeral there

43 per cent of adults attended a church or place of worship for a memorial service for someone who has died and 17 per cent were seeking a quiet space

Every year, around 12 million people visit Church of England cathedrals, including 300,000 pupils on school visits.

• Seven in ten (72%) of the population agree that Church of England schools help young people to grow into responsible members of society and 8 in 10(80%) agree that they promote good behaviour and positive attitudes.

• Latest available statistics indicate one in four primary schools and one in 16secondary schools in England are Church of England schools. Approaching one million pupils are educated in more than 4,700 Church of England schools.

there are more than 20.000 ministers licensed by Church of England dioceses, including clergy, readers and Church Army officers: one minister for every 2,500 people in England. The total does not include more than 1,600chaplains to prisons, hospitals, the armed forces and in education, nor around7,190 retired ministers with permission to officiate.

More people do unpaid work for church organisations than any other organisation.

• The Church of England provides activities outside church worship in the local community for 407,000 children and young people (aged under 16 years) and 32,900 young people (aged 16 to 25 years). More than 116,000volunteers and an additional 4900 employed adults run children/young people activity groups sponsored by the Church of England outside church worship.

so remember to replace all that if we gonna scrap the church of england

we are commanded to have physical fellowship, it amazes me many finger pointers have no church themselves and ignore the fellowship command giving new meaning to the word fellowship to fit their preferred position. Jesus wasn't happy with all that went on in the mosques but he didn't hold it against the congregation, and even went there himself to teach.

It would be so easy to just walk away, and not change the climate of the CofE. For all our bad points, there are so many positives.

 

[Ohioguy]

It's sad thing when we call ourselves by our 'church denomination' rather then followers of Christ,...or we identify ourselves with our country and not the Lord...and what is clearly written....your defending a denomination and your country, that's it, in the end, we will be accountable to the word of God....Jesus Christ..... Numbers are no sign of obedience, if we can't hold each other to the accountability of the word of God and what is clearly written...we can throw out the bible because we are not using it anyway....'the church of England', 'the catholic church", nor any other 'church' is the Head of the Church...Jesus is, and he is the Word of God (bible) made flesh.....You can throw him out if you like, but I will not...... You have to choose whom you will stand with, the lord and his word, or your denomination......Maybe I have miss understood, but from what I understand, the 'Episcopalians" are part of the 'body' of the church of England...and they have ordained homosexuals..... Correct me if I'm wrong..... either way , the word is supreme, and 'it is written' ...so shall it be

 

[Ohioguy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Church_(United_States)

 

[Ohioguy]

These are you members...and you don't rebuke them?......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAcPE0rcjE

Where exactly is thee rosary in the bible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9yUr8s-vGE

 

[Ohioguy]

Lord, have mercy on us all!!!

 

[Zinzerio]

Well if The church of england allows Gay marriage i will leave it but i will not leave it for a women bishop (bishop does the speech preacher does the research). So far The church of England have not allowed Gay marriage despite heavy pressure from the gay mathia councils of this world, and no doubt the usa government where Gay marriage is already at work.

Yup The church of England is in existence in the Usa to Not just here,, and it is my belief that The USA will be trying to force the church of England into Gay marriage over there like they have done already.

The fact still remains that the USA was the first to allow Gay marriage, So go and sweep your yard first before you sweep ours.

 

[prodigal]

It's sad thing when we call ourselves by our 'church denomination' rather then followers of Christ,...or we identify ourselves with our country and not the Lord...and what is clearly written....your defending a denomination and your country, that's it, in the end, we will be accountable to the word of God....Jesus Christ..... Numbers are no sign of obedience, if we can't hold each other to the accountability of the word of God and what is clearly written...we can throw out the bible because we are not using it anyway....'the church of England', 'the catholic church", nor any other 'church' is the Head of the Church...Jesus is, and he is the Word of God (bible) made flesh.....You can throw him out if you like, but I will not...... You have to choose whom you will stand with, the lord and his word, or your denomination......Maybe I have miss understood, but from what I understand, the 'Episcopalians" are part of the 'body' of the church of England...and they have ordained homosexuals..... Correct me if I'm wrong..... either way , the word is supreme, and 'it is written' ...so shall it be

the reason a denomination is being defended is because that denomination was the one being attacked..i also showed how important that denomination is too the uk, a factual exercise again in its defence...as far as finding the perfect church where all think the same, well good luck, keep looking, and to use the defence of not belonging to a church, because none fit a certain criteria,well we are commanded to break bread together, but maybe that one's easier to overlook if it don't fit the game plan. so to presume someone should throw out their bible cos there not walking the way you feel they should says more about the accuser than the accused. So i suggest a complete study of scripture rather than quoting verses that fit a certain agenda, Cor.. if i listened to certain people i would be condemned already and guided to not belong to any church, but thankfully i follow Christ's lead, you know the one full of compassion, the one that warns others about creating stumbling blocks for the believers. also i dont know if facts are important here but in the uk Ordained deacons, priests and Bishops are forbidden to enter same sex marriage.
I would suggest that maybe it would be best for each person to find fellowship in whichever way their led and not to go accusing others of, 'throwing out the bible' , cos you feel god has gone on holiday and left you in the judgement seat.. .

 

[prodigal]

These are you members...and you don't rebuke them?......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAcPE0rcjE

Where exactly is thee rosary in the bible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9yUr8s-vGE

your first link is 2 years outa date and as for the rosery which no one in any church i have attended have ever used, seems to be something more for monks, too me thats on the same level as wearing a cross, something i dont do but i aint about to condem people that do. surely if anyone wants any info on a particular church wouldn't it be wise to ask someone who goes to that church. Otherwise your relying on the writings of anyone who has a beef with the c of e or any offshoot that doesn't apply to the 'norm'....

 

[Zinzerio]

And amen old news did not do anyone any good especially 2 year old news,

 

[Zinzerio]

It's sad thing when we call ourselves by our 'church denomination' rather then followers of Christ,...or we identify ourselves with our country and not the Lord...and what is clearly written....your defending a denomination and your country, that's it, in the end, we will be accountable to the word of God....Jesus Christ..... Numbers are no sign of obedience, if we can't hold each other to the accountability of the word of God and what is clearly written...we can throw out the bible because we are not using it anyway....'the church of England', 'the catholic church", nor any other 'church' is the Head of the Church...Jesus is, and he is the Word of God (bible) made flesh.....You can throw him out if you like, but I will not...... You have to choose whom you will stand with, the lord and his word, or your denomination......Maybe I have miss understood, but from what I understand, the 'Episcopalians" are part of the 'body' of the church of England...and they have ordained homosexuals..... Correct me if I'm wrong..... either way , the word is supreme, and 'it is written' ...so shall it be

This does not have any thing to do with the church of England. This topic was a bout women bishops ohio not gay people.
I know what your saying tho, your saying women bishops now what next gay bishops ?.

And besides this idea you have does not hold any water. the only people to marry gay people that i know of upto now is amerina pature men not women.

No the women bishop will not be able to influence this gay agenda that you have.

England will have a king soon in king William a straight man not gay in any way or any gay agendas. but a man with Good family morals just like his dad Charles and the kinda guy i would want ruling our church.

please keep to topic which is women bishops and not gays thankyou

 

[TheClimaxWarrior]

I totally have to agree. The Church of England is fine by me as I've discussed with prodigal. However, I stand strong in saying. Women are not be the leader of the Church. For we know the position belongs to a male. It is solid fact. For instance my friends mother wanted to go to her ordination I refused. She asked me once to go to her Church. Uncomfortable I walked out. I see it as a power trip a feminist act. Ruling the dominion of female over the male. You see this woman had inferior motives for she was cheated on in her marriage.

I was told I should measure her heart first, then her gifts and the fruit she bears. I laughed as I knew she was seeking power and acceptance and walked off. It's kind of like getting my daily fix on Joyce Meyer, then I checked myself and realized I was a man and I will listen to a male only for advice and counsel. Woman have their strongholds within the Church. But, definitely not at the front of the Church.

They have tried to use Lydia of Thyatira as an example. Yes, she was anointed and appeared in Pauls' dream as a man. But, was no way in reference for her to be a leader of the Church. So I says,'Try again!'. Now, we know GOD is all power and can do whatever He pleases. We know for a fact He could've made Lydia a leader of the Church which would've of been a liberation for women seeing as it was the start of the Holy Spirit and His power in Acts. The event in Philippians was the prime time to do so but it never eventuated because GODs' law is His law no one can undermine that.

If this is the case, then Elton John may as well be right that Jesus would think differently about allowing gay people to live their lives out and still be with Him in Heaven. This is just ridiculous and so is woman bishops of the Church. It's demeaning, demoralizing and emasculating JESUS as the true head of the Church.

How can JESUS love the Church as His bride if the Church is a male? Some will say not to take it literally. Well, actually I can, it doesn't make sense. When it comes to the matters of the Church. The male is logic is based on respect. Females logic responds to emotion. This is why the right Pastor must be allocated who has such a trait in and amongst His gifts and fruit.

Woman have a significant role of the Church and it is a huge role indeed of which the male cannot do. Members with it be male or female can still receive the same blessings of the Pastor just by hearing His Word. Roman 10:17 through Ministering and sharing the GOSPEL willfully.

The Head of the Church belongs to the male. For we know Jesus is Male.