Disapointed In Trump SOTU

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AdolfHipster

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First of all, we should dispense with the "Trumpsters" name tag. It adds nothing to the discussion, and makes you look like a bitter fool.

We have Trump as our president. He will make good decisions, and bad decisions, but most of us who held our noses and voted for him still hope he succeeds.

There HAS to be some path to citizenship for the so-called "dreamers". Trump's plan is a good one, although I think it should take more like 5 years instead of 12. But, if one of the dreamers doesn't meet criteria, if they have proven to be a slug that only wants to suck up resources, or is of a criminal bent, then "no soup for you", under the Trump plan. That is a good thing.

Those that have lived here all their lives, and truly wish to become AMERICANS (not simply re-located Mexicans) should have the pathway to do that. That is not only the just thing to do, it is the moral thing to do.

Stopping "chain migration" is a huge plus.

Over all, I think his solution is about as good a compromise as I've seen.

I DO wish he would have limited it to ONLY the 700,000 or so "dreamers" that the liberals wanted to bring in. Adults who came over here KNOWING they were breaking our immigration laws should be sent back to start over from square one.
Since when was it the "moral" and "just" thing to do to reward criminals for bad behavior?

What about the families who had to patiently wait years, maybe even decades, to come into the US legally? Maybe they should have just broken the law too, that way they can eventually be amnestied because it's the "moral" and "just" thing. What's next, God should bless those who sin too, because it's the "moral" and "just" thing to do? It sounds like your "morals" and "justice" need a bit of tweaking.
 

MichaelOwen

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I dont think it really matters as to our conversation.
Then why are you even here, on this website....this is a CHRISTIAN website, with fellow believers....we follow Christ's teachings....MURDER is wrong, don't try to justify....so really, WHY are you here?
 
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Then why are you even here, on this website....this is a CHRISTIAN website, with fellow believers....we follow Christ's teachings....MURDER is wrong, don't try to justify....so really, WHY are you here?
I just wanted to see if you had an answer for your faith. It seems to me you are just on a confirmation bias loop with your like minded friends.
 

MichaelOwen

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I just wanted to see if you had an answer for your faith. It seems to me you are just on a confirmation bias loop with your like minded friends.
And it appears to me the only reason you joined this website was to be a troll.......to get a rise out of people........that's a very good pathway to Bansville......just letting you know
 
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And it appears to me the only reason you joined this website was to be a troll.......to get a rise out of people........that's a very good pathway to Bansville......just letting you know
So debate and ideas other than the christian one will get you banned? Where can a person find real freedom in this world?
 

MichaelOwen

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No what I'm saying is if you're just here to troll and cause trouble, that will get you banned.....But seriously, go read Romans 10 : 9-10
 

AdolfHipster

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Did God appoint Hitler? Was it God's will to murder millions of people by gasing them and burn the bodies on ovens? Did God appoint Stalin? Was it God's will to murder millions of people in the gulags? Did God appoint Cecil Richards? Is it God's will to murder millions of unborn babies?
You'll find that people's stance on supporting the "God appointed and anointed the president" change depending on which political party the president belongs to. Objectively, I can say at least one of the people telling you to bless the president and respect him did no such thing for Obama. But don't get me wrong, Obama doesn't deserve it either... it should be earned and he didn't earn it.
 

hornetguy

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I'm still writing in Ross Perot ;)

Actually this last election I liked Chris Kenniston of the veterans party. He spoke a lot like Trump, but without all the personal aggrandizement and blustery bs.

But until people stop wasting their votes on more of the same old thing, people like him will never have a chance.
So, YOU'RE the guy that voted for Perot..... I always wondered what happened to that voter.... :D

I've never heard of Kenniston. I'll look him up.

I honestly don't know who would be a good pres right now. I like Ben Carson... no experience. I liked Ted Cruz, I think I would like to see Alan West in that spot. He likely would be even better than Trump.... I like just about everything I've heard him say.
 
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heartofdavid

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just where and when did you loose your sense of humor?

he did spell it wrong, but my post was not meant to indict the man :rolleyes:
Ha ha ha you spelled endite wrong
 

AdolfHipster

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It would be hard for me to put in words just how much I utterly disagree with this post. For now, I'll just touch on one aspect.

The tax cut comment.
Trump is President of the United States of America. He is wealthy beyond measure. There is no more up for him. I genuinely believe he has AMERICANS best interest at heart. The idea that he passed the cuts, for any other reason than it is GREAT for America, is absurd.

My family will have more than $4000 more for our kids college, needed home repairs, and most importantly to help the poor and needy even more than we do now.

My 401k retirement is VERY healthy SPECIFICALLY because of Donald Trump. And NOT just mine!

Company after company have given healthy raises and bonuses to their workers. Not to mention the incredible investment that is pouring in from companies that had to invest in other countries because of the ridiculous corporate tax rate.
THIS BRINGS GOOD JOBS TO USA!!!!

So I'm sorry Aimee. I know he has character flaws, and they are big. But I am VASTLY more interested in what he does for America than any human flaw.
Do you ever watch the tv show Pawn Stars? A guy comes in, has some rare item, the shop owner calls in an expert to authenticate it and to give him a estimate of what he thinks it's worth. You remind me of the guy who sells a $50,000 item for $5,000 and is excited about it. That's what I think of the tax plan when the middle class people get a bone while the people on the top tier get the rest of your $45,000.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Ha ha ha you spelled endite wrong

sigh


in·dite
inˈdīt/
verbarchaic


  • write; compose.
    "he indites the wondrous tale of Our Lord"

ip
Similar-sounding words
indite is sometimes confused with indict


 
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7seasrekeyed

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Obama was attacked more than any other president. Some of the things that are said about his family. And his wonderful wife are just sick. He was laughed at for being black. Mocked and ridiculed for the color of his skin.

convenient

he was half WHITE

gleaming beaming WHITE

always and conveniently forgotten

his momma was WHITE. like snow white

who laughed at him? provide proof. these sweeping and undocumented statements should be illegal

it seems all you have done is join to post nonsense in this thread
 
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convenient

he was half WHITE

gleaming beaming WHITE

always and conveniently forgotten

his momma was WHITE. like snow white
Thought you didn't look at race????? Seems like you have thought about it a lot. Probably dreamed of his lynching.
 

AdolfHipster

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Reagan fired the first shot in the class wars by codifying income inequality. he's why we have very little of the middle class left. Which is a shame, because a strong middle class was what MADE AMERICA GREAT.
Yeah, people hate hearing about Reagan's corporate welfare and hate even more when you show them how the gap between the top and middle have grown exponentially since it's induction.

Then again, it's like telling Bill Clinton lovers that Jimmy Carter would have had similar economic growth if he was in Clinton's place all because of the dot com boom. Sure, Clinton did some things right ( and a lot of things wrong) but the dot com (.com) boom is hardly his doing.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Thought you didn't look at race????? Seems like you have thought about it a lot. Probably dreamed of his lynching.

oh

since when is mentioning a person is half white racist?

Obama is HALF WHITE

sorry to bust your bubble