Donald Trump: President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period.

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Magenta

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I think the only reasonable response is:

Both may be appropriate. I wonder if it is only narcissistic ego-maniacal
sociopaths that support someone like Obama. They must certainly be
delusional. Or anti Christal. Perhaps both. I wonder if they would kiss the
koran like the pope does. Like Obama no doubt does, while he spits on the Bible.

[video=youtube;YUbf3purr_E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbf3purr_E[/video]

How have so many allowed themselves to be so deceived by this snake in the grass?
 
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Both may be appropriate. I wonder if it is only narcissistic ego-maniacal
sociopaths that support someone like Obama. They must certainly be
delusional. Or anti Christal. Perhaps both. I wonder if they would kiss the
koran like the pope does. Like Obama no doubt does, while he spits on the Bible.

[video=youtube;YUbf3purr_E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbf3purr_E[/video]

How have so many allowed themselves to be so deceived by this snake in the grass?
That's the million dollar question.
 

Tommy379

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I think they just put money on a card now.
What! I have a 90 minute routine about food stamps I'm going to have to rewrite. AtleastI still have the 'yo momma' jokes.
 

Magenta

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That's the million dollar question.
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot, huh?

Whatever happened to all this? Sorry to be so behind the news feed.

[video=youtube;l-HqHSkYG-Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HqHSkYG-Y[/video]
 

peacenik

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''let's read our Bible'' and remember that we live in a society that practices disestablishment he is criticizing "using one's faith as a tool of attack''

- that's what he says in that extract and it's a good lesson for all
 

peacenik

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re the "banned" video - I like the following comment:

T Doverspike2 days ago
Wow, fine tune those tin foil hats! What amazes me is that this crap continues to be posted. Obama is, after all of this time almost at the end of his presidency. None of the false claims against him have come true. All of these false claims have been de-bunked. Let it go, you have feet of clay.





this comment is a good one, too because it is laughable:


Yee Haa2 months ago
23,465,551 views and 76,743 comments and EVERYONE can watch it. And you say," ITS A BANNED VIDEO". Really dude








 
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Magenta

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Proof for what? Your hypocrisy? Your delusion? I already supplied both, which you conveniently ignored while you projected your stuff elsewhere in a measly attempt to divert from the fact that you were refusing to take responsibility for your double standard. Proof for my opinion? Do you have no understanding of what an opinion is? I supplied a video of Obama mocking the Bible. Are you blind to that which is right under your nose? Haha I bet you would like to pretend he would do the same with the koran? LOLOLOL. There is more "proof" for you right there of your delusion. Obama calls the koran holy pretty much every time he says the word. He would not dare speak of it the way he does the Bible. No, he has people like you on his side, eh? Propping him up with their delusions, and their anti Christian rhetoric, pretending they are on the side of truth and fairness while they attack people simply for reminding them of what they said less than a day ago. LOLOLOLOLOLOL. You are so predictable.
 

Tommy379

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I still think Obama was born in Kenya. I got an idea. We get some dobermans to chase him and see how fast he runs.
 

tourist

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OK. Back on topic:



With Donald Trump's Birther Spin, He's Crossed A Line




Donald Trump And Supporters Spin Falsehoods After He Finally Admits Obama Born In U.S. : NPR




You may or may not have noticed, but the 2016 presidential campaign has entered a new phase — perhaps even a new dimension. It is new, not just for this year's already extraordinary campaign, but for American political discourse.
That is because on Friday, Donald Trump brought forth what may well be the most preposterous falsehood anyone has attempted to peddle in our political life. Think that is hyperbole? Feel free to counter with something to match it. Seriously.
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WATCH: Obama Jokes About Trump's Birther Reversal




Trump spent five years as the indisputable point of the spear for the "birther" movement. That means he transitioned from reality TV star to presidential candidate largely by questioning President Obama's birth certificate — asserting that the first black president was really born overseas and therefore ineligible for the Oval Office.
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Taste The Outrage: Donald Trump Jr.'s Tweet Compares Refugees To Skittles




After all that, and after keeping his actual views on the subject a secret as late as Thursday, Trump reversed himself overnight. He said the president was born in the U.S., that he had been the one to lay the matter to rest, and that the whole controversy had begun with — wait for it — the Hillary Clinton campaign.
If you are a fan of Bible stories, you might expect at this point that the earth itself would open, and Donald Trump would be swallowed up. (Check out the fate of some false witnesses in the book of Numbers 16:31.)
The earth did not open, but at least a portion of it did move on Friday. It was the portion where many of us as journalists try to stand. We have lived in the faith that if we report what the candidates say, and do it with accuracy and fairness, our audiences will judge for themselves what is true and what is not.
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Without Apology, Trump Now Says: 'Obama Was Born In' The U.S.




But what happens when one candidate defies all notions of fact and fiction? When one candidate declares the moon is the sun and vice versa?
In this campaign, it has become obvious that it's not enough to say, "His opponent denied it." It has called for far more than traditionally boilerplate treatment of telling both sides. Several in the media during this campaign have started to move beyond "he said, she said" stories, an expression that predates both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.
Books have been written about these rules, pro and con. In addition to stories labeled "fact checking" — something that had been between a cottage industry and a sub-genre of journalism — reporters have moved to fact check in real time on air and online.
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Bill Clinton: 'It's Hard' To Think About Leaving Foundation




The old rules have been rendered moot and journalistic restraint tested by the strategy and tactics and stupendous success of one candidate. Donald Trump has found it possible not only to circumvent the media and defy them, but to exploit their power and discredit their judgment at the same time.
Consider the birther business, perhaps the most debunked allegation in a generation. Having gained attention for himself over a five-year campaign of misinformation, Trump thinks he can now abandon it, cast himself as some sort of truth seeker and attach all the opprobrium to his opponent instead. Surely even the notorious masters of 20th century propaganda would be in awe.
If this is the kind of behavior that has been associated with the Trump campaign since its inception, it is still stunning to see it defended by Republican Party leaders such as its chairman, Reince Priebus, who surely knows better, on Sunday morning talk shows.
To be clear: Neither Hillary Clinton nor her campaign in 2008 pushed the birther story. Needless to say, comparing that to Trump's performance on the issue is not just a smokescreen, but a distortion and an embarrassment.
The moderators of those venerable weekend chat fests have long enjoyed more leeway than straight-news reporters. Some regard them as a kind of "editorial page" for their networks. And so the likes of John Dickerson on CBS and Jake Tapper on CNN and others were out there on Sunday using the L word in a way one almost never hears in the broadcast media. The word "lie" is, in fact, a word we are taught to avoid as journalists, a word freighted with value judgment and fraught with political peril.
But that practice has been under tremendous pressure in 2016, and it's crumbling. Journalists are increasingly willing to throw the penalty flag, say the L word, or label statements false — and not just in stories labeled as fact checks.
Even CNN, which has lavished airtime on the Trump campaign for more than a year, has even begun displaying lower-third banners on screen when his statements are demonstrably untrue. It can be jarring at times to see a Trump line followed by a parenthetical ("False") or ("It's Not").
This all seems quite new, but there are antecedents.
In 1954, the rambling wreck who was Joe McCarthy picked a fight with the U.S. Army over the promotion of a dentist. McCarthy, the Red-baiting Republican senator from Wisconsin, seemed convinced the dentist was a communist and a spy. People in the media had been frustrated by McCarthy's tactics and bluster for years, but the lunging attack he launched on the Army finally broke the dam. Today, we can look back and see that the senator who spoke of finding scores, even hundreds of communist infiltrators in government in fact produced not a single one.
And in 1968, a generation of journalists who had covered the second world war or been raised on its lore lost their faith in the U.S. military adventure on Vietnam. Having told their audiences for years that the U.S. was fighting communism and defending the American way, they found themselves saying the war was a hopeless stalemate and the justification for it a sham. Something similar made its way to the forefront of the coverage of the Iraq War in the middle of the last decade.
But as a rule, in recent decades, we in the American media have been content to enjoy our share of the nation's peace and prosperity — and yes, even a modicum of prestige. We have been among those who flourished in the American century and enjoyed its fruits. Maybe that is why so many of us missed the rising tide of profound alienation in the country today — the deep despair over our economic prospects, our cultural values and, yes, our political system.
That is our burden, our mea culpa. We will bear that judgment. But that does not mean we should sit out the rest of this election, either with respect to the facts or in the matter of judgment. We will continue to listen to all sides and assess all sides and attempt to make sense of conflicts. But we must also call things by their right names.
The current case is simply without precedent. Trump has long insulted leading figures in public life, including rivals for the Republican nomination and nonsupportive members of his own party. This weekend that group came to include former Defense Secretary and CIA Director Robert Gates (whom Trump called "a clown," while asserting that he, Donald Trump, knew far more about defense, intelligence and security).
Some will say all this falls within the bounds of acceptable political behavior, especially in our time and in our social media sensibility. But some of us are still journalists and still feel a responsibility. And when someone tells us the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, that's just not OK; it's not business as usual.
A red line has been crossed. And it is Donald Trump, after more than a year of trying, who has crossed that line.








Right wing lies have caught up with Trump.

Eventually that's what happens and it is time for the right wing to speak the truth before it is too late for them.
Huh?......
 
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dancinglady

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politically correct. He will say anything at this point to gather up points. The man doesn't know his own mind at this point. What's up. What's down. He'll go with the flow of the polls. If he's in a church, he'll act churchie. If he's at a university, he'll act colligent. yada, yada, yada. It's a sad thing to watch a man lose his mental capacity.
 
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I still think Obama was born in Kenya. I got an idea. We get some dobermans to chase him and see how fast he runs.
So do I, and so do millions of thinking Americans.

The dog sound like at least good entertainment.
 

Tommy379

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So do I, and so do millions of thinking Americans.

The dog sound like at least good entertainment.
If he out runs the dogs we know he's from Kenya. If he gets eaten alive, well oops sorry. ;)
 
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LaurenTM

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politically correct. He will say anything at this point to gather up points. The man doesn't know his own mind at this point. What's up. What's down. He'll go with the flow of the polls. If he's in a church, he'll act churchie. If he's at a university, he'll act colligent. yada, yada, yada. It's a sad thing to watch a man lose his mental capacity.

I'm not a mathamatician, dancing, but maybe you could explain something?

your profile states you were saved in 1933 and you state you are 76

no matter how I switch the 3's around, they don't add up

if you were born in 1933, you would be 83

if you were saved in 1933, as you suggest, you would be maybe 90

see where I'm going with this?
 
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I'm not a mathamatician, dancing, but maybe you could explain something?

your profile states you were saved in 1933 and you state you are 76

no matter how I switch the 3's around, they don't add up

if you were born in 1933, you would be 83

if you were saved in 1933, as you suggest, you would be maybe 90

see where I'm going with this?
Seems to be a lot of that going on around here. Must be Obama supporters in that they, like him, have no problem obscuring or inventing their history.