Evangelist Arrested Curbside for Condemning Homosexuality

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A former Los Angeles police officer-turned evangelist was arrested in London on Monday for publicly calling homosexuality a sin, according to Christian Newswire.
Retired Los Angeles Deputy Sheriff Tony Miano had traveled to the United Kingdom with Sports Fan Outreach International on a mission to bring the Gospel to England.
During the Wimbledon Tennis Championships, he preached about immoral living as he stood in front of the Centre Court Complex.
Miano cited homosexuality and fornication as examples of lifestyle choices that go against God's law, quoting 1 Thessalonians 4:1-12, which mentions "sexual immorality."
A passerby heard his comments and reported to the police that his statements offended her.
Click play to watch CBN News UK Correspondent Peter Wooding's report.
The result: Miano was fingerprinted, DNA samples were taken, and he was later interrogated about his what he believed.
***Click here to watch arrest on Tony Miano's YouTube Channel.​
"As the questioning started it became apparent that the interrogation was about more than the incident that took place in the street, but what I believed and how I think," Miano told The Telegraph online. "I was being interrogated about my thoughts...that is the basic definition of thought police."
"It was surreal because I was interrogated about my faith in Jesus Christ," Miano said. "I was asked if I believe that homosexuality is a sin. I was asked what portion of the Bible I was reading. I was asked if a homosexual was hungry and walked up to me, would I give them something to eat."
When asked if he would continue to same the same thing the next day, the evangelist contended that he did nothing unlawful and, if led by the Holy Spirit, he'd publicly preach the same message.
The arresting officer said Miano's affirmative reponses left him no choice but to seek prosecution. Miano was later released by another officer with no further charge, after seven hours in custody, according to theHuffington Post.
***Click here to read the entire line of questioning.
"The language I used was not homophobic, as I was not promoting fear or hatred of homosexuals," Miano said after the arrest. "I began my message by assuring the people that mine was not a message of hate but of love. I was simply explaining a passage in the Bible which speaks of sexual immorality and that people should abstain from it."​
"I did not speak solely about homosexuality as a form of sexual immorality, but also about any kind of sex outside of marriage between one man and one woman, as well as lustful thoughts," he said.
"All of these are considered mainstream Christian positions and have been taught and believed by Christians for thousands of years," he argued.
Miano said the experience was disturbing.
"It was very distressing to be arrested and interrogated for openly expressing my deeply held Christian beliefs," he said.
He warned that Britain and other countries with similar laws are on a "slippery slope" toward the dissipation of free speech.
Meanwhile, Andrea Minichiello Williams, chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre, echoed Miano's prediction.
"If we continue on the current trajectory, Tony's arrest will simply be the first of many," he said. "It's clear that there is already a clampdown on freedom of speech where people publicly express mainstream Christian views on sexual ethics."

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it's sad that no one wants to hear the gospel any more, everyone wants to live in sin and not for GOD and it's very depressing
 
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While looking for more information on this story I stumbledacross this.

It seems that the gay community agrees that something likethis is just wrong and needs to stop



Comment: It was wrong of thepolice to arrest preacher Tony Miano because of his anti-gay views
By Adrian Tippetts for PinkNews.co.uk



There might have been goodreasons for the police to have a word with American street preacher Tony Mianoas he bellowed his sermon on sexual immorality to disinterested passers-byoutside a Wimbledon shopping centre last week. The volume levels, perhaps, orhis location inches from the kerb, inconveniencing passengers stepping on andoff the buses just behind him.
However, it was his viewson homosexuality that attracted the police’s attention and led to his arrestand detention under Section 5 of the Public Order Act, after a complaint by amember of the public offended at his “good news”.
According to the transcriptof the police interview, Mr Miano appears to be an equal opportunist,denouncing a host of sexual taboos, proscribed in 1 Thessalonians 4:1-12,including adultery, looking at someone with lust, sex before marriage,masturbation as well as just homosexuality.
Undoubtedly, Mr Miano wasinconsiderate. His message would have been deeply unpleasant, especially tovictims of homophobic abuse. It might sound tempting to simply stamp out anyverbal expression of homophobia, racism or sectarianism. We all know these tobe wrong, don’t we? Wouldn’t life be easier if we didn’t upset anyone’sfeelings?
Everyone loses out when wedeny this right, not just “even” but especially in the case of those views wedeem “unpleasant”. As Tom Paine wrote in the introduction to the Age of Reason,he who denies to another the right of his own opinion “makes a slave of himselfto his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it”.The preacher lost his freedom to express his opinion that Monday afternoon;everyone lost their right to listen, to challenge each other’s claims, tochange their minds and to sharpen their arguments. Prejudices unexpressed arelikely to fester and grow precisely because they go unchallenged. Theunchallenged extremist wins sympathy as a martyr of the “thought police”without any consideration of his arguments. It means another tale ofpersecution will echo around right-wing media networks for months.
Thanks to lobbying by theNational Secular Society, the Peter Tatchell Foundation, and the ChristianInstitute, Section 5 of the Public Order Act will no longer criminalise use ofinsulting words or insulting behaviour. And about time too: the law alreadyprotects against discrimination, incitement and violence. Section 5 led to thearrest of Outrage activists who protested against Islamist extremists whocalled for gay people to be put to death, youths who derided Scientology andjoked about a police horse being “gay”, a pensioner for placing a poster in thewindow calling religious stories “fairy tales”, animal rights protesterscovering toy animals in red dye and a number of Christian preachers – mostscandalously, Harry Hammond. They were deemed to be offensive not byindividuals, not by gay people, but by the police. It criminalised and stifledfree, honest expression that was, at most, mildly inconvenient to others. Thepolice officer arresting Tony Miano seemed to have the idea that Section 5allowed him to interrogate the preacher’s beliefs and conscience – does heconsider “two males holding hands to be sinners?”
“When a man believes thatany stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,” said GK Chesterton. And bystamping out free expression in the name of offence, the boomerang hits theprogressives in the face. Homophobes and theocrats have feelings too: whoseshould count more? There are some who are offended by our very existence.Protecting feelings excuses the perpetrators of violence and harassment of,say, a couple kissing or holding hands, “because they were flaunting it.” Howdo western leaders convince Mr Putin that Russia’s anti-gay laws banning Pridefestivals and all form of expression supporting same-sex relationships aredraconian, when they are a logical consequence of protecting feelings? It isconsidered “racist” or “colonialist” to even speak out against Islamisthomophobes. The fact that I feel obliged to state the obvious, that Ispecifically mean a minority of bigots and their apologists within theircommunity, shows the extent to which the rot has set in.
I thank Mr Miano forexposing double standards. The offending verses that led to his arrest appearin a book found in every church, synagogue and school in the land. I own fourcopies of that book: why not prosecute me too? His preaching was a slightlycoarser version of any teaching on sex and relationships to be expected in aCatholic school. Isn’t it odd how a preacher cannot speak his mind in a publicplace to adults who have the freedom to answer back or walk away, while in someschools, the teacher has the right to expose captive children, who cannotchallenge authority, to the very same ideas? Who of these is doing the moreharm?
He challenges the marriageregistrar or bed and breakfast owner who out of “conscience” refuses to serve thegay couple, but makes no inquiry into the sexual history or marital status ofthe straight couple. He challenges married divorcee MPs and Daily Telegraphjournalists who obsess about marriage equality. Still, I question hisconsistency. He says that homosexuality, fornication and murder are all equallypunishable. Would he readily tell the mother of a victim of gangland killingthat the murderer of her son was no more sinful than two males holding hands inthe street? Actually, I wouldn’t put it past him.
The improvement of thehuman condition through the Enlightenment project has depended on freeexpression and the appeal to reason, claiming rights by defeating poorarguments with better arguments. Hurt feelings are inevitable but they are asmall price to pay.


Comment: It was wrong of the police to arrest preacher Tony Miano because of his anti-gay views - PinkNews.co.uk
 

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@tracer, I'm glad you posted that. Thank you.
 
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Freedom of speech in the UK: yeah right
 

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there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

Secondly, I think it is foolish for a Christian to preach again homosexuality, yes they maybe right, but that simply instantly creates a barrier to most people being preached at, as homosexuality is becoming acceptable and seen nothing wrong with it. Homosexuals are going to hell for rejecting Christ, not for being homosexual.

The days of preaching fire and brimstone I beleive are over, we are no longer fishers of men, but hunters, Fisherman catch people by the thousands, hunters one by one. People are so hardended against the Gospel that hardly anyone pays attention to the "nutter on the corner preaching hate and sin is going to send people to hell", so telling people they are going to hell for sexual immorality or being liar, theif etc, has no effect, people dont like being told they are wicked and evil sinners, so all that does is puts up barriers.

Just tell people that they must accept Jesus Christ as they will end up in hell. thats all there is to it. no need to mention peoples short commings and sins, esepcailly sexual imorality. If someone hears and says, "oh really is that true, do tell me more" then you can explain about sin, Christs final sacrifice to cover it etc.
 
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there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

Secondly, I think it is foolish for a Christian to preach again homosexuality, yes they maybe right, but that simply instantly creates a barrier to most people being preached at, as homosexuality is becoming acceptable and seen nothing wrong with it. Homosexuals are going to hell for rejecting Christ, not for being homosexual.

The days of preaching fire and brimstone I beleive are over, we are no longer fishers of men, but hunters, Fisherman catch people by the thousands, hunters one by one. People are so hardended against the Gospel that hardly anyone pays attention to the "nutter on the corner preaching hate and sin is going to send people to hell", so telling people they are going to hell for sexual immorality or being liar, theif etc, has no effect, people dont like being told they are wicked and evil sinners, so all that does is puts up barriers.

Just tell people that they must accept Jesus Christ as they will end up in hell. thats all there is to it. no need to mention peoples short commings and sins, esepcailly sexual imorality. If someone hears and says, "oh really is that true, do tell me more" then you can explain about sin, Christs final sacrifice to cover it etc.
NOBODY is going to respond to an offer accompanied by a threat. I wouldn't, and I accepted Christ years ago. My choice had nothing to do with fearing hell. I know absolutely no one that responds on that basis. Jesus didn't even say that. He said "follow me and I will give you eternal life," not follow me or I'll send you into everlasting torment."
 
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Agricola, I do believe the 'fire and brimstone' method doesn't work well these days. There are people who've been saved through them but that's rather irregular. But I also think it's very important to mention sin in relation to salvation (but in a loving manner). For the most part, people come to know Christ through relationship with other people. Love with words and action but preaching at people doesn't work. Even I, as a Christian, hate that approach. It's not loving, it's not relational. The Holy Spirit can work through street preaching but as the world changes, there need to be new approaches (ways to present) God's good news. The message stays the same, the presentation of the message doesn't.
 

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all because ONE person was 'offended'. Perhaps many were actually not offended. Why do these cases seem to go in favor of the one or two who are 'offended'?
 
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On a mission to bring the Gospel to England???

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What 'evidence?' No one is born gay... it's a lifestyle..

Sexual orientation, be it heterosexuality or homosexualityor bisexuality, is inborn.

Would you like a short list of some of the research on this?
 
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Sexual orientation, be it heterosexuality or homosexualityor bisexuality, is inborn.

Would you like a short list of some of the research on this?
What I know about this kind of research is that it can never give definitive proof of homosexuality being inborn or not. Scientists usually just try to fit the results of their research to fit their own political agenda. It doesn't really matter anyway: God's Word is clear on homosexuality being a sin, there's nothing science can change about that.
 
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What I know about this kind of research is that it can never give definitive proof of homosexuality being inborn or not.
What would you call definitive proof?
There is not definitive proof that microscopic organismscause illness and disease for example. Thereis however quite a lot of evidence saying they are the cause.



Scientists usually just try to fit the results of their research to fit their own political agenda.
What evidence do you have for this claim?

It doesn't really matter anyway: God's Word is clear on homosexuality being a sin, there's nothing science can change about that.
If it doesn’t matter why do you so strongly deny that sexualorientation is in born?
 

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[/SIZE]What would you call definitive proof?
There is not definitive proof that microscopic organismscause illness and disease for example. Thereis however quite a lot of evidence saying they are the cause.




What evidence do you have for this claim?



If it doesn’t matter why do you so strongly deny that sexualorientation is in born?


Some experts say pedophelia is a sexual orientation. Should pedophiles be given more rights?
 
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Sexual orientations outside heterosexuality (a word I abhor) could very well be genetic. But does that make it make them right?

Genetics 101: many genetic factors need changes in the environment (including individual choices) in order for genes to take their full affect. Genes, they are finding, have an impact on more parts of the human experience than we, until recently, thought unimaginable. The package includes yes: behavioral defects. Sins.

My family's example is alcoholism. It is the reason why I am careful to avoid hard liquor. Why? It would be wrong of me to go out and get drunk (or stay in and get drunk for that matter).

Just because something is written in on a person's genetic code does not mean it is inherently good or absolves them of all responsibility.