Featured Editorial in Christianity Today says: "Trump Should Be Removed from Office"

[calibob]

Bread.... Zimbabwe ....

Narco terrorists, refugees, North America?

 

[Deade]

You Can't just believe every body that claims to be a christian;
Matthew 7:21 21"Not everyone who says to me, 'LORD, LORD,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." KJV Speaking of doing the will of the father, what is Trump doing to help our friends and neighbors to the south?

If you are referring to Mexico, just don't get me started on that. Southern Mexico and the Northern most countries in Central America are completely corrupt. So corrupt and monetarily rich they even run the governments of their respective countries. It is just not safe for people there anymore. That makes our Southern border a hot zone that must be kept in check. If we let these people immigrate willy-nilly, we would destabilize our own country.

 

[Lightskin]

Have you never heard of the Pentagon Papers or Watergate? He conspired with Henry Kissinger, the Military Industrial Complex and South Viet Nam President Nguyen Van Thieu to stall the Paris peace talks until after the 68 election and further continued a war for profit scheme. Then spies broke into the Watergate hotel in 1972 to learn what the DNC election strategy was, tried to cover it up and was caught on tape agreeing to borrow millions of dollars of hush money from alleged Cuban Mafioso leader "Bebe" Rebozo, Resigned from office during the impeachment inquiry and was pardoned by Gerald Ford. In 1915, the Supreme Court indeed said, of pardons, that “acceptance” carries “a confession of” guilt.

The Watergate scandal resulted in 69 government officials being charged and 48 being found guilty.

Point well taken, but I stand by my words. At least Nixon loved America; obama hates it’s very existence in our infidel state of being.

 

[calibob]

Point well taken, but I stand by my words. At least Nixon loved America; obama hates it’s very existence in our infidel state of being.

I meant the worst in deeds. Nixon was a Quaker that let his power and authority go his head. He thought that the President was above the law and stated as much to Larry King in defense of Oliver North over Iran/Contra.

 

[calibob]

Bread.... Zimbabwe ....

It's not politics it prophecy IMO If the Mark of the Beast will replace currency the Beast, will be or is a Banker! I used to believe Communisim was the greatest threat to mankind. But now I realize it's idolatry. That includes greed, sexual perversion, abortion, (child sacrifice) narcotics, (sorcery) and politics (false religions).

 

[calibob]

@PennEd What I've been trying to do is to reach people like you. The goal is to get people like you to give up your false religions like nationalism, republicanism, or Marxism and false idols of money and possessions and follow the Lord until the bitter-sweet end. The purpose of life is to worship and glorify God. The rest is temporary.

 

[oldethennew]

And now its Christianity Today that's being attacked. Christians eating their own?

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/4...Ggrzmk_TppV0AQd6aIcAKORFvNYNQtpqUn3_K_9-mjbXE

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this is true and well said = Christians are NOT to be involved in (POLITICS, period)..."eating their own' how well described'...

 

[PennEd]

@PennEd What I've been trying to do is to reach people like you. The goal is to get people like you to give up your false religions like nationalism, republicanism, or Marxism and false idols of money and possessions and follow the Lord until the bitter-sweet end. The purpose of life is to worship and glorify God. The rest is temporary.

Yeah... That's not too offensive.

What I've been tryin to do is to get you to see that you are complicit in the abortion industry because you don't support pro-life candidates.

Can I get you to give up your god of self righteousness and save a few babies? That's MY goal!

See? Twisting other people's thoughts is offensive aint it Bob.

 

[KhedetOrthos]

And now its Christianity Today that's being attacked. Christians eating their own?

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/4...Ggrzmk_TppV0AQd6aIcAKORFvNYNQtpqUn3_K_9-mjbXE

Christianity Today deserves to be attacked.

Christians don’t abide, much less publicize the sorts of things this magazine has.

https://pulpitandpen.org/2019/12/20/top-three-liberal-articles-from-democrat-rag-christianity-today/

And I’ve deliberately not quoted the article because some of the subjects are adult in nature. And CT came down on the devil’s side.

 

[calibob]

Yeah... That's not too offensive.

What I've been tryin to do is to get you to see that you are complicit in the abortion industry because you don't support pro-life candidates.

Can I get you to give up your god of self righteousness and save a few babies? That's MY goal!

See? Twisting other people's thoughts is offensive aint it Bob.

Put the issues on the ballot. I think the devil is in both parties and playing us like chess pieces. I'd support a home for unwed mothers and an adoption agency as well as missions. My church does now. I'd vote against Roe v Wade but I was never given a choice.

When I get to Vancouver one of my first goals is ministry to the homeless alcoholic/addicts and runaways, like my biological mother was. I oppose DSA (Bernie bros), DNC and RNC. I won't support keeping homeless refugee children away from their mothers. The letter of the US law is flawed. Just like the Levitical laws. I should be able to afford and pack my bags and leave by early February and give away everything I can't carry on a plane or a bus.

And no I don't get offended that easily.

 

[calibob]

And no I don't get offended that easily.

Well you did ask why I comment so much on politics, If I'm antipolitical. I thought CC would be a great place to hang out and talk with people who just want to talk about Jesus 24/7.

 

[Magenta]

Go ahead, try the socialist Green New agenda that the Dems are pushing. I wish everyone could try it for a year and you'd be begging to have Trump back in office. Five bucks a gallon gas, tax on the air you breathe, illegal immigrants flooding into your town and the government paying for all their benefits. Look at the Brits kicking out the liberals. Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it!

Be careful what you wish for? What a ridiculous thing to say. You have not been listening at all, have you?

 

[calibob]

Be careful what you wish for? What a ridiculous thing to say. You have not been listening at all, have you? Instead you revert to projecting a default false narrative.

@kaylagrl Are we not to compare everything authoritories tell us with scripture and in the case of a discrepancy,. obey scripture because there is only one final authority in the end. A loving God. Scripture trumps, Trump!

 

[kaylagrl]

Be careful what you wish for? What a ridiculous thing to say. You have not been listening at all, have you?

Mag. over the years I've agreed at times with what you've said, I believe you've agreed with some of what I said also. We're not always going to agree. But if you lived here in the US you'd understand why it's important to vote to keep the Dems out. If you read up on their agenda you'd understand. This is no longer about just one party over another, radicals have taken over the Dems, they aren't who they use to be. In fact they need to change the name all together. I've been paying attention a lot more than you think. Trust me on this, these people have a radical agenda and people better wake up to it before it's too late.

 

[Magenta]

Mag. over the years I've agreed at times with what you've said, I believe you've agreed with some of what I said also. We're not always going to agree. But if you lived here in the US you'd understand why it's important to vote to keep the Dems out. If you read up on their agenda you'd understand. This is no longer about just one party over another, radicals have taken over the Dems, they aren't who they use to be. In fact they need to change the name all together. I've been paying attention a lot more than you think. Trust me on this, these people have a radical agenda and people better wake up to it before it's too late.

No, I do no have to live in the States to recognize what is going on there. Would you likewise say, if I lived in an Islamic country, I would understand the evil inherent to Islam? Or if I lived in a communist system, I would understand the evils inherent to communism? Your proposition assumes I lack crucial understanding. What goes on in many political dealings is a lot of criminal activity and cover-ups of corruption, whether on the right, or on the left. Not supporting one side does not mean you support the other. That is a jumping from one extreme to another to project a false narrative, while overlooking or ignoring what is actually being said.

You have reminded me of the conversation where you accused people of wanting the rich to pay for everything because some think it would be fair for those with a whole lot of money to pay a higher rate of taxes than those who are poor. This proclivity people have with projecting false narratives is disturbing to me. I see how the conversations over time changes some people's character, and believe me, those who change do not usually change for the better, while others simply become more entrenched in their nastiness, as if they had a right to slander others and no Biblical imperative to bridle their tongue. Very few seem to be able to simply state their case without trying to smear the person they disagree with, with some untruth, while they refuse to acknowledge the error in their own perspective. Is it simply human nature to do so? Are we not called to a higher level of discourse? Of course we agree on many points of what we believe Scripture teaches... and we are passionate about our beliefs. However, misrepresenting what others say is not how Scripture tells us to deal with others. It is neither honest, nor just, nor loving.

 

[KhedetOrthos]

No, I do no have to live in the States to recognize what is going on there. Would you likewise say, if I lived in an Islamic country, I would understand the evil inherent to Islam? Or if I lived in a communist system, I would understand the evils inherent to communism? Your proposition assumes I lack crucial understanding.

To be honest, this isn’t entirely accurate. For instance, if you aren’t familiar with the history of the United States and the grievances set forth in the Declaration of Independence, you may not fully appreciate the importance of the second amendment to us. Also could be true of someone who lived in a society that had been disarmed by government. It’s not that an outsider lacks understanding, it’s that they lack perspective.

For instance, I may see the terrorist activities occurring in Germany and know that this is evil. I may also conclude that Angela Merkel’s party is responsible and should be replaced. But I don’t know enough about German politics to know who they should replace her with.

Likewise, someone on the outside looking in could not likely penetrate the veil of lies that the networks, CNN, and MSNBC have surrounded this administration in to know just how evil and anti-Christian the Democrats have become.

 

[Magenta]

To be honest, this isn’t entirely accurate. For instance, if you aren’t familiar with the history of the United States and the grievances set forth in the Declaration of Independence, you may not fully appreciate the importance of the second amendment to us. Also could be true of someone who lived in a society that had been disarmed by government. It’s not that an outsider lacks understanding, it’s that they lack perspective.

For instance, I may see the terrorist activities occurring in Germany and know that this is evil. I may also conclude that Angela Merkel’s party is responsible and should be replaced. But I don’t know enough about German politics to know who they should replace her with.

Likewise, someone on the outside looking in could not likely penetrate the veil of lies that the networks, CNN, and MSNBC have surrounded this administration in to know just how evil and anti-Christian the Democrats have become.

I do understand the importance of the second amendment. Why must you perpetuate the very same mistake? I did not make a statement, I ASKED RELEVANT QUESTIONS. Do I need to live there to see the evil rising up and taking hold? No, I do not. Misrepresenting what another says is a regular occurrence here, and that was the point of my post. If you are as new as your current join date, you might have a better perspective on the dynamics here, and understand where I was coming from.

 

[calibob]

To be honest, this isn’t entirely accurate. For instance, if you aren’t familiar with the history of the United States and the grievances set forth in the Declaration of Independence, you may not fully appreciate the importance of the second amendment to us. Also could be true of someone who lived in a society that had been disarmed by government. It’s not that an outsider lacks understanding, it’s that they lack perspective.

For instance, I may see the terrorist activities occurring in Germany and know that this is evil. I may also conclude that Angela Merkel’s party is responsible and should be replaced. But I don’t know enough about German politics to know who they should replace her with.

Likewise, someone on the outside looking in could not likely penetrate the veil of lies that the networks, CNN, and MSNBC have surrounded this administration in to know just how evil and anti-Christian the Democrats have become.

The point that I understand is. that since none of the above is not on the ballot, not voting for a particular candidate does not equal for the other. This is not a zero sum game. If we chose a side we don't trust to oppose the other side and the side we chose turns against what is true and good we are guilty of being an accessory before the fact. We would not be the only guilty of voting against our conscience but we aided and abetted the crime or crimes just the same.

But if we object due to conscience we are not responsible for the outcome. Puritans and Ana Baptists came here because we wouldn't take part in nationalistic quarrels, obey kings or fight in wars. Tyrants hate that. What part of conscientious objector is so hard to understand?

The constitution is amendable. It's not a crime, it's been done 33 times. It was written by human committees, not God. Take the power out of our servants hands in Washington and let us decide and make them obey. Let God be the judge. The tyrants will never allow being reduced to overpaid servants. The population isn't united, informed, honest or responsible enough for it to work. (But)

The first amendment came before the second, It reads; "Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble." We don't have to vote and if everything goes sideways it's not our fault. Here's the real villan!​

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[kaylagrl]

No, I do no have to live in the States to recognize what is going on there. Would you likewise say, if I lived in an Islamic country, I would understand the evil inherent to Islam? Or if I lived in a communist system, I would understand the evils inherent to communism? Your proposition assumes I lack crucial understanding. What goes on in many political dealings is a lot of criminal activity and cover-ups of corruption, whether on the right, or on the left. Not supporting one side does not mean you support the other. That is a jumping from one extreme to another to project a false narrative, while overlooking or ignoring what is actually being said.

You have reminded me of the conversation where you accused people of wanting the rich to pay for everything because some think it would be fair for those with a whole lot of money to pay a higher rate of taxes than those who are poor. This proclivity people have with projecting false narratives is disturbing to me. I see how the conversations over time changes some people's character, and believe me, those who change do not usually change for the better, while others simply become more entrenched in their nastiness, as if they had a right to slander others and no Biblical imperative to bridle their tongue. Very few seem to be able to simply state their case without trying to smear the person they disagree with, with some untruth, while they refuse to acknowledge the error in their own perspective. Is it simply human nature to do so? Are we not called to a higher level of discourse? Of course we agree on many points of what we believe Scripture teaches... and we are passionate about our beliefs. However, misrepresenting what others say is not how Scripture tells us to deal with others. It is neither honest, nor just, nor loving.

The convo I had was with Bob and I'm pretty sure if he has an issue with me he can well defend himself. I would appreciate if you link what convo you are talking about so I can defend my words and people can see what was said. It's real simple, if you don't vote for one side, the opposite side gets in to office, as we can now see with Pelosi. She should have never gotten into office. You can say whatever you want from Canada but I don't want to live in a communist country without borders with taxes to choke a horse. And yes, I think it's wrong to sit back and not vote, if you don't vote you have no place to complain. I think it's our responsibility to make a choice as to what party should be in office, to pick the party best suited to do the job. People have also misrepresented my words. So I think we need to be careful to let each person speak for themselves and not run defense. I don't have an issue with you Mag. we agree on a lot of things, just not on this. Let's not become bad CC friends over it.

 

[Magenta]

The convo I had was with Bob and I'm pretty sure if he has an issue with me he can well defend himself. I would appreciate if you link what convo you are talking about so I can defend my words and people can see what was said. It's real simple, if you don't vote for one side, the opposite side gets in to office, as we can now see with Pelosi. She should have never gotten into office. You can say whatever you want from Canada but I don't want to live in a communist country without borders with taxes to choke a horse. And yes, I think it's wrong to sit back and not vote, if you don't vote you have no place to complain. I think it's our responsibility to make a choice as to what party should be in office, to pick the party best suited to do the job. People have also misrepresented my words. So I think we need to be careful to let each person speak for themselves and not run defense. I don't have an issue with you Mag. we agree on a lot of things, just not on this. Let's not become bad CC friends over it.

My issue is how you misrepresent the issues and people. You just did it again! If someone does not vote for one side, the opposing side gets in power? No, not necessarily, see, that is just another false narrative. Regardless of WHO you were talking to, I am free to interject and call you out on the error of what you say. That is how forums are set up to work, even if you do not like it. Your not liking it does not have to make us enemies, this is true.