GOP Presidential Nomination

GodIsSalvation · Nov 7, 2015

Sirk said:

He's a snake cause he lies and slithers. Seen it with his connections to the abortion system and the trade and experimenting of the body parts of fetuses. Saw it with his slithering around his connections to dubious pill companies. Now we're seeing it with even his accounts of his past. If it were about him making a mistake in his past and then learning from it, then why don't he just say that instead of calling all of us fools?

Seriously how much more do you need? What's behind him? Seems to me the lying spirit of the SDA cult, started by lies by a lying false prophet. Do not vote for this non-Christian. Frankly it pisses me off to see my people once again being taken for a ride by another pagan. Did you not learn from Mitt the Mormon? Did you not see how they tried to pretend evil Mormonism is like Christianity?! What do you think they'll do with the SDA if Carson is given the nomination? I will not bow down to these pagans and heretics, you can throw me in the furnace first Nebuchadnezzar.

Desdichado · Nov 10, 2015

Anybody else watching the debate tonight? It's the first full debate I'll be able to view and I'm ordering Papa Johns (he's a Republican).

Overall, I'm hoping this is a real victory for conservatism as a whole. FBN and WSJ have the chance to pull off an entertaining yet substantive debate.

Billyd · Nov 10, 2015

Debate vs NCIS, which one will we record? My 10 year old grandson says it's a no brainer. Watch NCIS and record the debates. Ask him who should run for president, and he'll tell you Abbey.

As I stated in my previous post, I cannot find a good reason to vote for anyone running. I lost all respect for the national Democratic Party when they nominated Al Gore years ago. With their coronation of Hillary Clinton, they have moved so far to the left, that they won't get my vote even by default. As of right now the following Republican's are off my primary list. That could change after the debate tonight. I want to see some economic meat and not the ridiculous bones that are being tossed about.

Donald Trump
Ben Carson
Ted Cruz
Jeb Bush
Rand Paul
Chris Christie

Desdichado · Nov 10, 2015

NCIS is still on?

The producer should run for President.

GodIsSalvation · Nov 10, 2015

Will watch them all. Kinda disappointed they relegated Huckabee to the undercard debate, but I'm hoping here with only 8 candidates they will have more time to flesh out certain ideas.

Really hoping Kasich continues calling out the inexperienced three on their fantasy-filled bullcrap and keeps pushing his strong message of fiscal sanity and Christian pragmatism that we need to fix America.

Some other side plotlines I'll be looking for:

If Trump will continue his crying about the media like the stuck up preppy girl in highschool that complains about being treated like the rest of us commoners.

If Carson will continue to slither around his dubious associations and to see if he'll continue to tangle himself further inside his own web of lies.

If Rubio will keep up his strong debate performance despite a week that exposed much dubiousness with him and his GOP credit card.

If Cruz will get longer than 5 minutes to speak.

If Rand Paul will keep getting slammed by his own party.

If Carly Fiorina is still trying to look like Hillary.

If Jeb Bush will continue to flounder in the debates.

Desdichado · Nov 10, 2015

I wish they trimmed a bit more.

Rubio-Kasich-Carson-Cruz-Trump

Let's go!

GodIsSalvation · Nov 10, 2015

Desdichado said:

Lol will Bush be totally abandoned? Nah, I couldn't even do that, for his record alone as governor is decent and prosperous. Even that family name that makes him unpopular justifies him being in the debate. The Bush era is a long and recent issue still existing today. Trump and Carson shouldn't even be on the stage to begin with seeing as they have no government record and their private dealings that are publicized and their demeanor in present ones are dubious.

Hoping Carson gets sunk frankly, even for his own good, let him leave the SDA and let him run for a lesser office first and then maybe he be considered and be better prepared for some high US politics, and how it is even so lowly. I'll keep Trump one more round if he trumps Carson utterly.

Just for the show and theater of it:
Kasich-Bush-Cruz-Rubio-Trump

Fantasy Top 5 based purely on merit to me the monarch and we the people the monarch-citizens:
Kasich-Bush-Huckabee-Jindal-Cruz

sydlit · Nov 10, 2015

Father in heaven, thank you, Lord, for our troops; active, retired, and those who've given the ultimate sacrifice. We pray for the families, especially those that have lost a loved one due to war, or in service to our country.

Thank you for the freedoms we enjoy, let us never take them for granted, and we thank you for those who continue to defend and help protect and share freedom with others. Please bless and protect our service members and their families, Father.
We do pray for an end to war, but Lord, not before a well-defined mission to victory, so we pray for a new commander-in-chief, Lord, one who will Respect the uniform and those who wear it, and will give them all the support and leadership needed to get the job done, with as minimal amount of human loss and suffering as possible...for All involved.
We even pray for our enemies, Lord, that you would cause them to see the error of trying to destroy lives and freedom in an effort to put people under submission to their oppresive laws and false belief systems. Turn them, we pray, to you, Jesus, for forgiveness, salvation, and new life in Christ, and help us to always remember that this is a gift from you, Father, and that there, but for the grace of God, go I.
And so we give you all the thanks and praise, Father, for America, for our troops, and the families and friends, everyone who supports them as well. Bless and hold them close, around the world, and on Canada's remembrance day, and America's Veteran's day, this November 11th, 2015,
May Jesus be their Captain in battle, reminding them they defend from a position of victory which He ultimately already won on Calvary's cross, and in who's Holy name we pray, Amen.

Desdichado · Nov 10, 2015

Yeah, I take it back. Kick Kasich out. He's annoying this debate "Excuse me!"

sydlit · Nov 10, 2015

Desdichado said:

I'd take any one of the ones you'd kick out, over your Hillary or B O.

Desdichado · Nov 10, 2015

sydlit said:

Ha. So would I. Believe me.

sydlit · Nov 10, 2015

Desdichado said:

ok, guess I misunderstood. Carly just gave pro-military/pro-allies/anti-commie mini-speech of the night.

GodIsSalvation · Nov 11, 2015

So this debate pretty much confirmed the GOP has almost lost its mind. Notice how shameful they are booing Kasich for saying he'd protect their savings if the banks fail again. It's really the best part of the debate, very symbolic of how half the GOP has at least lost its mind that they boo the only guy that admits publicly he'd save their own assets. Ironically, theirs is not the conservative position but to let the banks fail is even the position of Hillary Clinton.

Other than that, Rubio I think had a really strong debate performance again. Not that I agree with all his positions, but Rubio did well tonight. I thought Jeb did real well, even me mum who really hates the Bushes thought Jeb did good tonight. Liked his little mockery of Trump's hollow pandering calling Trump "generous" lol. Jeb also more focused, delivered more and informed more about how he actually is up there with Kasich for having an actual proven record of prosperity and growth.

Cruz got a lot of time and it was not wasted. Cruz is an attack dog, saw it a lot. Though Cruz showed his weakness attacking Kasich. First he attacks Kasich when he himself has the same position of Hillary Clinton to let the banks fail. Gullible GOPers clap at their own doom. Notice though how before in Cruz's whole eloquent speak of philosopher king's he himself in his comeback to Kasich cites his disagreement on Kasich being willing to go against Cruz's "philosophy" lol, Cruz is a philosopher king if I ever seen one. Who else has cited Cicero and Dr. Seuss on the Senate floor? Though I do like that about him, it justifies keeping him in the debate though his philosophy is wrong.

I think Rand Paul did fairly well tonight, him or Rubio be the winner. Rand Paul whether right or wrong was really on fire tonight, and the other GOPers didn't mercilessly maul him like before. Best night for him of the debates so far for sure. Rand Paul also shows his weakness too. It's not his common sense non-interventionist foreign policy. Rand Paul's weakness be on whether or not he is a conservative or a libertarian. Rand Paul throughout the debate shows he himself holds highly unorthodox positions for a right-winger. Not that it is a bad thing, just how can he build a message and platform over what is really conservative? Lol he kinda has the dynasty problem of Bush, trying to keep around the very enthusiastic and useful supporters of his family, but trying to appeal to the GOP base, and then even more challenging the wider American public at the same time.

Overall I think this debate was the weakest of moderators. Clearly they snubbing Kasich even not letting him respond to attacks. They ask such softball questions that even Carson could hit some and get a gold star just for trying. I was secretly hoping they'd let Megyn Kelly moderate for a round 2, she has been the best and most stand-out moderator, didn't let them pass on nothing. Just for how shamefully Trump dogs at her she deserves to tear his mantle down again.

Desdichado · Nov 11, 2015

Kasich was inviting attacks at the beginning in his quixotic quest to stay relevant. Instead of coming across as an actual expert, he tried to force his expertise down voter's throats.

Unfortunately, I didn't see the attack of the philosopher king as my internet went kaput. I did, however, see Kasich but in after two people answered questions. It came across as both insecure and condescending.

John Kasich certainly understands what leadership is given his record. He didn't show it yesterday evening.

Sinnerman · Nov 11, 2015

Kasich had risen to 4% in the polls over the last month. After last night, I think he will sink to 2% or less. You can't be one of the lowest ranked candidates and think you have a right to interrupt whenever you want to make a comment. You wait for your turn. Kasich just insured he is headed to the undercard debate next time out.

Kasich did not say he was going to save people's deposits in failing banks. He was booed because he said he would decide which people deserved help and which did not. That's what set off the audience. He made things worse trying to defend illegal immigrants. He seems certain you can't just go out and find all of the illegals and send them back home. Yet he seems just as certain that you can identify all the illegals in order to ask them to pay a fine and to check if they have a criminal record. So which is it? Can we identify illegals and send them back, or not? I say if you don't want to hunt them down, just wait for them to show up in hospitals or schools or social services of in traffic stops. When you identify them as illegal immigrants, you turn them over to ICE for immediate deportation. You'll go from 11 million to a couple million real quick. A big wall/fence will slow the flow coming back.

I'm still going with Ben Carson. We are doomed. It doesn't really matter who gets elected. We will all watch as politicians tell us social security has been paying out more than it takes in for several years and we won't be able to send out checks for much longer. They will tell us entitlement spending is 100% of the federal budget and there is nothing left for military spending, so we are now spectators to world wide conflicts and wars. They will tell us that the interest on the debt will triple in ten years and just that interest payment will become 25% of the federal budget. It won't matter who is in the White House or Congress, or who is on the Supreme Court.

As Rand Paul pointed out, there were a bunch of conservatives discussing how much more to add to deficit spending and to the debt, all for good reasons they said. That's what we will be voting for. Someone who will speed us on the way to disaster, knowing they can duck out of office before the day of reckoning arrives. I think the saying goes; it's nothing more than shuffling the chairs around the deck of the Titanic.

As to why I like Ben Carson, if we are going to steadily decline and go into economic collapse, I like the idea of a soft spoken person like Carson standing at the podium, explaining to Americans what we face in the years ahead, not some hot head who will guarantee mass rioting by screaming and shouting at whoever he feels is to blame.

Billyd · Nov 11, 2015

Add Kasich and Jindal to my no go list. Fiorina is still borderline.

Desdichado · Nov 11, 2015

Billyd said:

So you're left with Rubio. Well, I suppose you could choose worse.

sydlit · Nov 11, 2015

Desdichado said:

Rubio on the border? I have really grown to like Fiorino more and more. Still like Cruz. Would like that ticket, even. But I'll take Trump, or Christie, whoever. Just get rid of the leftists. I'd love to see the Fiorino vs. Clinton debate. Really really love to see that debate!

Desdichado · Nov 11, 2015

sydlit said:

Clinton v. Fiorina would be great, mostly because it would highlight the absurdity of modern feminism. No matter what, Hillary will play the feminist card. When deployed against Fiorina though, it would take the form of some bizarre "Uncle Tom" kind of accusation.

"Fiorina is in league with the patriarchy!"

Yeah, it would score points with people on a steady diet of lead paint chips and vodka, but the unindoctrinated, average voter would probably develop some form of epilepsy while trying to make sense of it all.

Desdichado · Nov 11, 2015

Other fun debates to watch:

Clinton vs. Cruz, Clinton vs. Rubio, Clinton vs. Christie, Clinton vs. Trump (still iffy on how that one would go, but it wouldn't lack entertainment value).

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