Homeschool is the solution

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2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Most people out there don't realize that everyone colors their teaching with personal experiences and religious/ philosophical beliefs. I readily admit to new students that I am a Christian, so I have a Biblical world view. I've met teachers who were Taoist, Buddhist, Pagan, etc. Most know that parents would object and it could cost them their jobs. Now is a time of great acceptance of wickedness in western societies. The witches are out of the broom closet 🧹 and the Satanists want to convert children into their own images. One look at that freak and any parent who loves their child would remove him from that school.
I'm a Gen Xer and I'm so glad that I grew up at the time that I did. School was great - there was no political correctness - we were taught that the US was a melting pot so everyone naturally got along, we pledged allegiance first thing everyday, talking about God in school wasn't discouraged and no one had any question or issue about their own gender. And the teachers had no agenda - they all just wanted to teach their subjects! I feel really bad for the kids of today and the corruption they're being exposed to.

The only awful thing were the fashions, lol!
 

Nehemiah6

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It's easy to just blame the teachers...
Teachers should not only be blamed but they should be prosecuted for what they are deliberately doing to children in public schools today.

However if every parent pulled out their children from all public schools, that would be the end of that corrupt system. TOTAL BOYCOTT is the only response to the corruption and destruction of kids. My wife and I homeschool our grandsons, and 2 to 2 1/2 hours per day is more than enough. That includes daily Bible Knowledge as well as memorization of Scripture passages.
 

Billyd

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Teachers should not only be blamed but they should be prosecuted for what they are deliberately doing to children in public schools today.

However if every parent pulled out their children from all public schools, that would be the end of that corrupt system. TOTAL BOYCOTT is the only response to the corruption and destruction of kids. My wife and I homeschool our grandsons, and 2 to 2 1/2 hours per day is more than enough. That includes daily Bible Knowledge as well as memorization of Scripture passages.
Most parents had their children out of school for at least one of the past three years. I sure didn't see any progress there. Some children will gain, but the vast majority of them will suffer.

Every child is entitled to a free public education. It is our responsibility to make that happen. How about some solutions to improving your local public school.
 

ZNP

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Most parents had their children out of school for at least one of the past three years. I sure didn't see any progress there. Some children will gain, but the vast majority of them will suffer.

Every child is entitled to a free public education. It is our responsibility to make that happen. How about some solutions to improving your local public school.
No, that is a complete misrepresentation. Yes, the NYC school was closed, but we continued to teach kids using online tools of Zoom and other tools. Comparing that with homeschool is an apples to oranges comparison.
 

Billyd

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No, that is a complete misrepresentation. Yes, the NYC school was closed, but we continued to teach kids using online tools of Zoom and other tools. Comparing that with homeschool is an apples to oranges comparison.
Were the parents involved in the students daily education? Be honest. How many parents today, have the time, the education, the financial ability, or the patience to educate their children.
 

Nehemiah6

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Every child is entitled to a free public education. It is our responsibility to make that happen. How about some solutions to improving your local public school.
It is TOO LATE for any solutions to the public school systems. And if parents use their heads, their children can definitely get a very good education outside the public schools. As to "free" that too can be resolved if parents work together to deal with the system and ensure that the funds are redirected to them.
 

Billyd

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It is TOO LATE for any solutions to the public school systems. And if parents use their heads, their children can definitely get a very good education outside the public schools. As to "free" that too can be resolved if parents work together to deal with the system and ensure that the funds are redirected to them.
It isn't too late. Changes can be made. Look at Virginia. Look at Florida. Parents need to get involved, and those of us who don't have children in school need be involved.

It's time for our evening ministry. I'll revisit tomorrow.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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It is TOO LATE for any solutions to the public school systems. And if parents use their heads, their children can definitely get a very good education outside the public schools. As to "free" that too can be resolved if parents work together to deal with the system and ensure that the funds are redirected to them.
Yeah, I think it's too late too.

Homeschooling is the best bet. If parents don't have time to teach their own kids, if they are in an area with a strong homeschooling network, parents can pay other parents to teach their kids.

So the more parents choose homeschooling for their kids in an area, the stronger the homeschooling network. The price of teaching materials go down because you're basically buying just one book of a subject for each grade and making photo copies of the pages or printing them out from a digital version.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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It isn't too late. Changes can be made. Look at Virginia. Look at Florida. Parents need to get involved, and those of us who don't have children in school need be involved.

It's time for our evening ministry. I'll revisit tomorrow.
Florida is a very independent red state though so schools here aren't as woke or corrupted (yet). It also has a TON of Christian schools and homeschooling networks so there's already a lot of options in Florida.

In the blue states that have worked hard to corrupt their public schools, homeschooling or Christians schools are the best solution.

I just feel really bad for children today. I wish this didn't have to happen to them!
 

ZNP

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Were the parents involved in the students daily education? Be honest. How many parents today, have the time, the education, the financial ability, or the patience to educate their children.
I have no idea if the parents were involved in their kids education while we were teaching over Zoom. I know that some parents listened to or watched the classes because they were also home.

I have homeschooled 3 children while working full time and while also being on a very tight budget.

So based on my personal experience:

Do they have the time? Yes, just throw away the TV and you will have the time.

Do they have the education? I think Elementary school is the most important, so yes, they have the education to teach elementary school level material to their children. As for JHS they might want to hire a tutor for Math if they are terrible at math, but otherwise, I would think so. I don't think HS is that important. The Bible says train up a child right and they will not depart from the path. I think you can do that by 8th grade.

Financial ability? I paid next to 0. The only thing I bought was 1 computer and about $200 worth of educational software and that was for 5 years of homeschooling. So yes they do.

Do they have the Patience? If you need a lot of patience you are doing it wrong.

1. My oldest two children came to the US from Taiwan and did not speak a word of English. I taught them by starting with the simplest baby books, A is Apple, B is Bat. The books were at the library, you could take out 25 books per library card. At first we would walk out with 50 books and go through those over the week. The library had many books on tape, so I would get those for them as well. Once we got up to the Charlotte's web level they would have about 5 books a week to read, again some are books on tape so they can listen to a tape while they read the book. I also checked out all kinds of movies: historical documentaries and science movies. It took us about ten months to get to books considered 6th grade level (and they were in sixth grade). By the 8th grade they were reading college level books. Math was taught with a wonderful program that taught algebra. They also used Where's Waldo for geography, it was extremely helpful in teaching them the english names of countries, cities, etc. Music was spent going to the church where they both played the violin. Gym was also spent going to church where they had Karate classes, in the three years they both got their black belts.

All I did was answer an occasional question they might have and pick out the books each week (but they were allowed to pick half their books). I also created the reports the city needed and I administered the tests they wanted.

They both went to NYC public high schools and both graduated as Valedictorians of their respective schools and no one at the school knew that English was not their first language. In fact principles at both schools first learned they spoke Chinese when they were seniors a few months before graduation and both were shocked at how good their Chinese was.

2. My youngest son had many complications at birth and it seemed he would be "Special Ed" his whole life. By homeschooling him we were able to spend hours each week teaching him violin and as a result he no longer needed a speech therapist, developing perfect pitch and he no longer needed an occupational therapist as his fine motor skills improved greatly. He still needed a physical therapist because they feared he would be knocked over by other students or fall down the stairs. So I took him hiking up mountains in the Adirondacks. After a few mountains he no longer needed a para to escort him around the school. So by the time he entered HS he did not need any of his therapists. He wound up graduating as an honor student.
 

blueluna5

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If you are a parent you are responsible for your kids education. If you choose to put your child into the public school it doesn't mean that they are responsible for your kids education. God has made the parents responsible.

I remember seeing some woman complaining on TV that her son was 18 and couldn't read (apparently he was an example of social promotion). She was blaming the school, but my thought was, where have you been the last 18 years? How is it that you didn't learn he couldn't read until now?

Homeschool is by far the most effective during elementary school and JHS. For the most part all you have to do is let your kids read books and there are computer programs that do a very good job of teaching elementary school math all the way through algebra. You can have your kid participate in little league sports or take Karate, and they can be a part of the church choir. Libraries have book lists by age. So if your child is reading at the 4th grade level you can get a list of books. If they get bored move up to the sixth grade level, etc. They also have books on tape so they can read along with the tape. Obviously if you can afford it you can have music lessons, tutors, etc. You can also organize this with your local church, if there were five families interested it would greatly reduce the time needed to supervise.
Nowadays everyone has the victim mentality. Like you said how can a "kid" be 18 and you don't know that they can't read. Unfortunately this happens a lot in the cities.

Another thing to consider is the home life. If there's a situation where there's more trauma in the house (maybe someone's fault or not) then get the kid out and into school.

If you have extroverted kids they thrive in school environments like my oldest. They learn so much and truthfully only a handful of teachers are pulling an agenda. I would definitely fight it and sue the school if I was seeing it.

I know homeschool kids who are "normal" and some who are sorta awkward. I guess the same way you would have in school. I don't think it's the answer for everybody though.
 

Nehemiah6

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The price of teaching materials go down because you're basically buying just one book of a subject for each grade and making photo copies of the pages or printing them out from a digital version.
Also a lot of material is freely available on the internet.
 

Nehemiah6

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It isn't too late. Changes can be made. Look at Virginia. Look at Florida. Parents need to get involved, and those of us who don't have children in school need be involved.
It is not just the forced vaccinations and masking, the pornography and racist indoctrination in schools, along with the drag queens on display. Also the very real risk of violence and mass murders. The system is simply hopeless.

Group Releases Viral Ads Targeting Porn In Schools & Forced Vaccines For Kids
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-targeting-porn-schools-forced-vaccines-kids/

It is the whole philosophy of keeping kids in the school system for about 6-8 hours, and then loading them with homework. The actual curriculum itself needs a A TOTAL REVAMP and the teachers' unions don't want that.
 

Godsgirl1983

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Homeschool laws vary by state with some states having very low regulations, while others have very high regulations.
It is important to know your states regulations before deciding to homeschool.
Things like withdrawing from public school or notifying state if homeschooling from the start
What are your state requirments for subjects taught, or the hours per year/week
Does your state require testing?

Helpful information for that can be found here:
https://hslda.org/legal
 

ZNP

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Homeschool laws vary by state with some states having very low regulations, while others have very high regulations.
It is important to know your states regulations before deciding to homeschool.
Things like withdrawing from public school or notifying state if homeschooling from the start
What are your state requirments for subjects taught, or the hours per year/week
Does your state require testing?

Helpful information for that can be found here:
https://hslda.org/legal
My understanding is that by law every state has to allow homeschooling, however, they also will put in some reporting requirements to guarantee the children are getting an education. I can tell you from personal experience that if the kids will simply read books they will get a better education than public school. Since we have public libraries everywhere it is easy to get books, free. There are a lot of things you can do as a parent to make the experience better. Little league, music lessons, Karate, "school trips", etc.

In NYC we were required to test the kids every other year, so that is what I did and the test I used was a state exam. I did the bare minimum of tests required because testing is not a learning experience.

The mother of the two oldest had a fit when I homeschooled and was going to sue so to placate her I told her that the kids were studying to take the test for the Number 1 HS in NYC (this is something they do in Taiwan). In NYC they do have a test you can take to get into the best high schools like Stuyvesant (at the time I didn't think my children would have any chance since 50% of the test is an english test and they didn't speak a word of English) but it kept her off my back. Well my son did pass and so graduated from one of the best HS's in NYC. So in retrospect her having a fit was of the Lord to force me to have them take that test.
 

Billyd

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Florida is a very independent red state though so schools here aren't as woke or corrupted (yet). It also has a TON of Christian schools and homeschooling networks so there's already a lot of options in Florida.

In the blue states that have worked hard to corrupt their public schools, homeschooling or Christians schools are the best solution.

I just feel really bad for children today. I wish this didn't have to happen to them!
I have lived in Florida for most of my life. I graduated from high school here. The quality of public schools here varies greatly across the state and even in counties. Three of my great grand children go to Christian elementary schools. My youngest grandson is in a senior in a public high school in an adjacent county. The school is an order of magnitude better than the county school that he is assigned to by the county. He was home schooled (his mother is disabled and a was a high school math teacher) until he started the ninth grade. He had to do credit recovery in geometry and a history class, but otherwise will graduate with a 3.3 GPA. He had Zoom classes for a couple of months, but returned to regular classes in the first fall of covid19.

The primary reason for the choice of public schools was vocational classes that were coordinated with his academic classes.

Without public school, he would never had access to the welding and carpentry classes.

Here's my question for you. Why should we pay billions to provide education for our children, and then spend hours a day teaching them at home? Instead of trying to justify a decision to home school, get involved in changing the public school system. IMHO, the first step in changing the quality of public education is school choice. Where do we go from there?
 

Godsgirl1983

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Without public school, he would never had access to the welding and carpentry classes.
Are there still schools that offer this?
Many public schools did away with the trades long ago.