"I don't care what they do,...

[pckts]

I notice you did not tell us what course this was or what degree you're studying for. According to your account, you confronted a professor (not sure why you put it in quotes since I assume she has a legitimate degree) because you didn't like her lesson.
I seriously question whether you are really a student because you do not talk at all like someone who is attending an institution of higher learning and more like a middle to late-middle aged man with a bone to pick. You label your dissenters as evil and corrupt and show an obvious contempt for "liberal" politics, (however you define a liberal).

They stated that prostitution being illegal causes women to be abused without recourse (it does). They stated that it's legalization would add to the tax revenue (it would). Your retort to them was "this sickens and offends me", which is not an argument at all against their position just your personal feelings about selling sex.

You see, much like when they tried prohibition you can't control or legislate people out of doing "sinful" activities. As long as there is a willing seller and willing buyer you will have a market, legal or otherwise. That's not a liberal position or a conservative one, it's a statement of reality. When people make moral arguments they automatically lose when discussing a matter in a secular world. The thing about morality is each of us has a different idea of what is moral and what isn't. The fact that you can't understand a worldview other than your own really isn't your teachers problem. Next time make a valid argument as to why her position is wrong and maybe perhaps you will get more then eye rolling.

I'm very glad I do not sound institutionalized, and instead wise beyond my years and generation.

Her lesson was her opinion without anything to contradict it, other than my big mouth.

That wasn't my retort, I attempted to appeal to their sense of morality. Being sickened and offended was my internal struggle.

Exposing their lack of morals and cold logic on the matter was good enough for me.

Very worldly statements. Christians don't have ideas of morality, we have a teacher, his word, and our spirits which confirm it. I understand their worldview completely, it is the title of this thread "I don't care what they do,..."

Not really sure what your whole point is. We have to accept and discuss matters "secularly" because we live in a society promoted as secular? No Thanks, I'd rather sound like a middle-aged man with a bone to pick.

I made a thread about this when it happened to me in April, I'll put the link below since you have your doubts about it and me. Although I could have conspired to tell the same fib twice.
http://christianchat.com/conspiracy...forum/150627-decriminalized-prostitution.html

 

[preacher4truth]

I notice.

You remind me of Mr. Worldly Wise Man in The Pilgrim's Progress.

 

[pckts]

I also tried to convey the idea that we have to promote stability in the society and stable lives, rather than legalizing sex occupations and allowing this as an outlet for male sexuality. Also told them that even if though they do not believe this will affect their lives, they will see it on the streets, interact with the corrupted "johns", and it will cause more young women to fall into this life, which is more important than taking away the negative repercussions of it.

One girl did speak up against it after I did, citing that in california it created more sex trafficking issues once legal. I will argue morality to the "secular", because it shows them morality is an option and you do not and should not conform to worldly social pressures. It may appeal to their sense of right and wrong on some level, or it will let them know they do not have one. Both are productive.

I'm very glad I do not sound institutionalized, and instead wise beyond my years and generation.

Her lesson was her opinion without anything to contradict it, other than my big mouth.

That wasn't my retort, I attempted to appeal to their sense of morality. Being sickened and offended was my internal struggle.

Exposing their lack of morals and cold logic on the matter was good enough for me.

Very worldly statements. Christians don't have ideas of morality, we have a teacher, his word, and our spirits which confirm it. I understand their worldview completely, it is the title of this thread "I don't care what they do,..."

Not really sure what your whole point is. We have to accept and discuss matters "secularly" because we live in a society promoted as secular? No Thanks, I'd rather sound like a middle-aged man with a bone to pick.

I made a thread about this when it happened to me in April, I'll put the link below since you have your doubts about it and me. Although I could have conspired to tell the same fib twice.
http://christianchat.com/conspiracy...forum/150627-decriminalized-prostitution.html

 

[Society]

I'm very glad I do not sound institutionalized, and instead wise beyond my years and generation.

Her lesson was her opinion without anything to contradict it, other than my big mouth.

That wasn't my retort, I attempted to appeal to their sense of morality. Being sickened and offended was my internal struggle.

Exposing their lack of morals and cold logic on the matter was good enough for me.

Very worldly statements. Christians don't have ideas of morality, we have a teacher, his word, and our spirits which confirm it. I understand their worldview completely, it is the title of this thread "I don't care what they do,..."

Not really sure what your whole point is. We have to accept and discuss matters "secularly" because we live in a society promoted as secular? No Thanks, I'd rather sound like a middle-aged man with a bone to pick.

I made a thread about this when it happened to me in April, I'll put the link below since you have your doubts about it and me. Although I could have conspired to tell the same fib twice.
http://christianchat.com/conspiracy...forum/150627-decriminalized-prostitution.html

You just want conflict. I'm out.

 

[Billyd]

Why don't Christians just leave California? Those immoral people out there keep electing immoral people.
You good people should just leave it to them.

The "good" people who leave California, tend to bring their liberal values with them. Look at what's happening in the states that they are moving into. The good people of California should should shed their liberal values and bring morality back to the state.

 

[pckts]

You just want conflict. I'm out.

You criticize those who do not agree with your liberal views, and anyone who defends themselves just wants conflict.

Society was the perfect name for your account.

 

[Society]

You criticize those who do not agree with your liberal views, and anyone who defends themselves just wants conflict.

Society was the perfect name for your account.

I don't care if you agree with my "liberal" views. (I'm a card carrying member of the conservative party btw).

According to you, you specifically went into a class that discusses human sexuality which is of course going to discuss all the subjects you mention. Since you knowingly went into a class that you knew would inflame you (I don`t actually believe you are a student, but that`s another topic) it is a clear cut example of someone manufacturing conflict. That is why I am out.

 

[pckts]

I don't care if you agree with my "liberal" views. (I'm a card carrying member of the conservative party btw).

According to you, you specifically went into a class that discusses human sexuality which is of course going to discuss all the subjects you mention. Since you knowingly went into a class that you knew would inflame you (I don`t actually believe you are a student, but that`s another topic)it is a clear cut example of someone manufacturing conflict. That is why I am out.

You've said it twice, it's meaningless now.

Carry as many cards as you want that say otherwise, you have liberal views.

Legalizing prostitution as the only solution presented, without any of the negatives discussed was the issue, not the topic itself. What inflamed me was that the majority of the class was in agreeance at the proposition, and the instructor rather than discuss the negative components of it remained silent and only wanted to push her opinion.

So according to your mentality, we should avoid all conflicting discussions? And it's manufacturing conflict if we disagree with something and voice this? Conflict is bad and we should accept what we don't agree with to avoid this? Or was I supposed to know that legalizing prostitution was going to be pushed in this manner, and I should have avoided the class because I wasn't in complete agreeance with the material? You can't honestly believe these things.

You place college students and institutional education very high on the pedestal, probably to elevate yourself.

For someone against manufactured conflict, you don't mind telling me I'm a liar and attacking my character. I can't supply evidence for this (unless I want to go largely out of my way to satisfy a troll), so this is your little way to judge and criticize me safely with little effort.

Debate (I know you are out) the topic of arguing morality in a "secular" society, instead of making baseless attacks on character.

 

[Willie-T]

CoC = Frozen Chosen?

What of the Spirituality of the Carnival workers? Christian, or "spiritual"?

Probably more accurately described as "Followers of Jesus." They were "real" people who lived their beliefs.

 

[Crustyone]

We are supposed to tell the world the correct way to live, the same as Jesus did. Whether they listen or not is up to them. We are also told that some will plant the seed, some will water and some will harvest. As long as we plant the seed God will see that they find those who will water and harvest, if He chose that person to be one of His own. You need faith that He has the power to do whatever is needed so that He does not lose any of His chosen. Those that are not chosen are Satan's children and God already hates them and has left them to their own destruction. Yes, God hates people. If you don't think so, do a concordance on hate.

 

[Angela53510]

You just want conflict. I'm out.

Actually, you are the one who came asking for a fight! He expressed his views and cited an incident, and you attacked him for what he said!

Perhaps next time, you could start by commenting on the OP, expressing your opinions, and maybe after we have gotten to know you, this rabid attack on a well written post, will not raise my ire, at mouthy newbies!

As for being a member of the Conservatives, you are obviously one of those economically conservative, socially liberal types. I bet you did not vote for Scheer, either. He is the best things that could have happened to the party. Looking forward to 2019, as long as you can convince your friends in Ontario to vote Conservative. As for Quebec, well, they've been robbing the west since Pierre Elliot. His son is a chip off the old block only dumber. But they will vote for their homeboy!

 

[PeterJens]

...if they want to be sodomites, and practice that, who cares, it doesn't effect me?!!! Furthermore, they aren't trying to force it on us, or trying to force us to accept them anyhow, and it isn't hurting anyone!!!!"

Uh-huh. Keep believing that lie.

IMO the political climate of Sodom and Gomorrah is where we are headed. They didn't try to force their filth on others either:

New California law allows jail time for using wrong gender pronoun, sponsor denies that would happen | Fox News

I had a conversation with someone I know who is very sensitive to the desires of others.

It was about a friend of theirs who claimed to want to be another gender.
They were male, and now wanted to be female.
A few weeks later they decided they were actually sexually neutral and wanted to be
called by the "they" "we" "you" without any sexual labels.

A few days later it became obvious they were going insane. They would ramble on about
issues, imagine trauma, or things that did not exist, and get very agitated.

It turned out they had been smoking "skunk" and had a growing addiction, which had turned
a nice friendly individual into someone who was now falling apart.

We appear to be living in a world where defining yourself individually and your rights to do this
is becoming more important than the simple reality of social interaction, and behaving in a predictable
way. The sad truth is this way leads to insanity and the breakdown of social interaction.

Thankfully for most people life goes on and these posturings are just that.

 

[preacher4truth]

"What they do doesn't hurt anyone else!"

Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathroom | Fox News

Try applying that same argument consistently to every human of all sex practices. See now? Sodomites don't need to be held on some pedestal as if they're harmless. In fact research shows otherwise.

 

[tooldtocare]

...if they want to be sodomites, and practice that, who cares, it doesn't effect me?!!! Furthermore, they aren't trying to force it on us, or trying to force us to accept them anyhow, and it isn't hurting anyone!!!!"

Uh-huh. Keep believing that lie.

In the USA the courts would rule that your statement came to the level of blasphemy
blas·phe·my
ˈblasfəmē/
noun
noun: blasphemy; plural noun: blasphemies

• the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.

Is that what I am hearing-?

Just asking -

 

[Society]

"What they do doesn't hurt anyone else!"

Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathroom | Fox News

Try applying that same argument consistently to every human of all sex practices. See now? Sodomites don't need to be held on some pedestal as if they're harmless. In fact research shows otherwise.

Just a correction, but this person assaulted the girl in her own home not a public bathroom. The victim was well known to the perp (as is in most cases). This headline is grossly misleading and attempts to make it seem like a random public bathroom assault when is was neither a public bathroom nor random.

 

[Society]

Actually, you are the one who came asking for a fight! He expressed his views and cited an incident, and you attacked him for what he said!

Perhaps next time, you could start by commenting on the OP, expressing your opinions, and maybe after we have gotten to know you, this rabid attack on a well written post, will not raise my ire, at mouthy newbies!

As for being a member of the Conservatives, you are obviously one of those economically conservative, socially liberal types. I bet you did not vote for Scheer, either. He is the best things that could have happened to the party. Looking forward to 2019, as long as you can convince your friends in Ontario to vote Conservative. As for Quebec, well, they've been robbing the west since Pierre Elliot. His son is a chip off the old block only dumber. But they will vote for their homeboy!

Even if I were here for ten years I'd have still raised your ire. One's views do not become more or less valid by the length of time they have been a member.

He does not talk like a student, still has not identified key details in his story that would shed light and context and sounds more like someone with an ax to grind against education in general. He also claims to be taking a class that goes against his religious views, which is very peculiar behavior in my opinion. It's like a global warming denialist saying he is enrolled in environmental studies. That is why I do not believe he is a student.

In fairness, I did not explain what I meant by saying he just wanted conflict so you are correct to point out my apparent hypocrisy. When I said he just wants conflict I did not mean conflict with me, I meant he wants conflict in general and therefore any discussion on the merits of his post would not go anywhere.

 

[preacher4truth]

In the USA the courts would rule that your statement came to the level of blasphemy
blas·phe·my
ˈblasfəmē/
noun
noun: blasphemy; plural noun: blasphemies

• the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.

Is that what I am hearing-?

Just asking -

Sorry, I don't know, what you're saying is vague and needs clarified before I can respond, if you don't mind to do so.