Illuminati real or hoax?

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quakerzen said:
The Illuminati was a group of scientific and philosophical minds that rebelled against the Catholic Church for demonizing and even killing men of science. They no longer operate and were disbanded like 200 years ago.

All of the conspiracy theories nowadays are just fake. Either it's people TRYING to look like they are Illuminati to get publicity (Lady Gaga, Jay-Z, Ke$ha) or people are mistaking old Masonic or pagan symbols for a new world order conspiracy group.
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That's where you are wrong.

I happen to be a member of the Virginia chapter. We meet in the basement of an ice cream parlor in Strasburg, VA on the third Thursday of every months unless the said Thursday happens to fall on a holiday officially recognized by the Commonwealth.

After a few rounds we discuss global domination in ambiguously European accents.

You know that new rest stop on the 29? That was us...
 
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Jennyyyyy

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Well the lack of evidence for the existence of the illuminati is the whole point...
So don't bother trying to solve that one.
There are good evidence for there being a controlling 'dominion' underlying world events and stuff, but that's the world. Some conspiracies are true, some are false. Don't worry about them though, not until they clearly manifest themselves.
Until then, sit back and relax. You're alive, do good things, enjoy life, love Christ.
 
shrimp

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I think the Illuminati exists and are very active today. I hope that this link will help in understanding it a little better. Also, I didn't learn about them from some paranoid person or group of people with no lives, I learned about them from my grandmother. Anyway, here's the link:
| Illuminati News | The Secret Order of the Illuminati
 
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danschance

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There is proof that the Illuminati exists but it is not definitive. There are many people who claim to have been involved in it and there are ministries that accept MK Ultras. These ministries claim it is real.
 
RickShafer

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It goes back to first cause.
Is there an actual personified evil?
I think you will find those that believe there is; will say there is a conspiracy of evil power and influence over the world.
Those that say there is not a personified 'devil',-( for lack of a better term); will claim any references to evil as a coherent force as those who
are 'superstitious', and 'primitive', and those that believe in 'wives tales', and those that are gullible enough to believe in 'conspiracy theories'.
 
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BLINDSIDE_CHIK

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Its real...and just cause some of you may say you don't have time to look into it doesn't make it any less real. There's a lot more dark forces in this world than just the iluminati. I think its surprising that christians don't even consider it or know of it and ignore it all together.
 
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megaman125

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I think there is a cult Illuminati group that exists, but I seriously think their power and influence is way over exagerated. I've heard of the theories like how the Illuminati are basically already in control of all the major world governments, they control all the medicine we get, all the tv we watch. It's just ridiculous. I've even seen websites where people say the Illuminati are in control of the weather and natural disasters like the earthquake in Japan, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, and even that they have plans to control an astroid impacting the earth at a certain location and exactly how much damage it will do. Come on, that's just ridiculous. Even if they did exist, they don't have that much power.
 
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violakat

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megaman125 said:
I think there is a cult Illuminati group that exists, but I seriously think their power and influence is way over exagerated. I've heard of the theories like how the Illuminati are basically already in control of all the major world governments, they control all the medicine we get, all the tv we watch. It's just ridiculous. I've even seen websites where people say the Illuminati are in control of the weather and natural disasters like the earthquake in Japan, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, and even that they have plans to control an astroid impacting the earth at a certain location and exactly how much damage it will do. Come on, that's just ridiculous. Even if they did exist, they don't have that much power.
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People are willing to believe a lie. However, before you discount them controlling tv, remember the
God of this world
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, or at least what he wants you to think, does have a lot of control in Hollywood, and that's simply because most actors and actresses are controlled by Satan, and not by God himself.

And to be honest with you, from what little I know of the Illuminati, I really think it's just another sect of Satanism. And that's simply from what I've gleaned from different sources: such as having powerful magic, sacrificing people, etc.
 
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dru

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BkTruth said:
Ive done the research and am entirely convinced its real and that the Bible confirms the conspiracy just curious what some other members of the bride think.anybody?
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yes they are reall. check out bill schnoebelen exoposing the illuminati from within (youtube)- he is a born again christian but was a 32nd and 90th degree mason in different masonic orders,2nd degree member of the church of satan, a witch etc you will know everything there is to know about these guys.
 
Bookends

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dru said:
yes they are reall. check out bill schnoebelen exoposing the illuminati from within (youtube)- he is a born again christian but was a 32nd and 90th degree mason in different masonic orders,2nd degree member of the church of satan, a witch etc you will know everything there is to know about these guys.
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bill schnoebelen isn't without controversy either.
 
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99caravan

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Illuminati means illuminated ones. The Bible mentions the doctrine of demons many times, Baal worship, etc. which is differing forms of Satanic worship. It is highly probable that Satan gave his demons powers to read minds, and search out information, and similar demonic powers. Remember the Demons knew Jesus before he spoke to them, and so Illuminati in my mind were and and still are people following the doctrine of demons. In Christ, we are not to engage in demon worship, or to have anything to do with them, but God will allow them to test us from time to time, in order to establish and test our faith and allegiance to the one true and living God.
To think the Illuminati were a myth or fictious group of people, based upon all the evidence in scripture that shows that demons, worship and fellowship with demons, and antichrist deceivers, performing many great signs and wonders to deceive the nations, would be narrow minded... IMHO.
 
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diedandrose

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Youy guys can't have seen all the evidence on the internet! There are plenty of reasons to believe the illuminati are operating & we will see increasingly their influence on the world in the short term!
 
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Donkeyfish07

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They're definitely around. The mystery babylon religion and that group are in bed with each other and have been since their inception.
 
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DannyC

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If the Illuminati were as powerful and controlling and as dangerous as people say, how do people supposedly 'know' so much about them? Also most people who learn about them from YouTube videos and books, why do the Illuminati being so powerful allow these things to circulate? Sounds like poor work.
 
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Donkeyfish07

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DannyC said:
If the Illuminati were as powerful and controlling and as dangerous as people say, how do people supposedly 'know' so much about them? Also most people who learn about them from YouTube videos and books, why do the Illuminati being so powerful allow these things to circulate? Sounds like poor work.
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They're Satanic at their core which means they have a lot of pride and lust for power. They like flaunting it. They don't see the uninitiated or publicity as a threat. Try reading Adam Weishaupt's material, he is the founder of that particular movement but it's certainly not the only thriving satanic organization. The temple of set (another satanic organization) has documented members in Military intelligence. Albert Pike's morals and dogma is a more recent document that gives a close look at masonry. Very easy to find and verifiable information.
 
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DannyC

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Donkeyfish07 said:
They're Satanic at their core which means they have a lot of pride and lust for power. They like flaunting it. They don't see the uninitiated or publicity as a threat. Try reading Adam Weishaupt's material, he is the founder of that particular movement but it's certainly not the only thriving satanic organization. The temple of set (another satanic organization) has documented members in Military intelligence. Albert Pike's morals and dogma is a more recent document that gives a close look at masonry. Very easy to find and verifiable information.
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I didn't ask if they were satanic.
 
MichaelAH

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Real, hoax, or part of one of Gods many plans that only some of us are needed to be part of that knows it's true purpose? I think that latter. :D
 
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