Illuminati real or hoax?

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jun1234

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"So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you
Luke 11.9
To be honest I wouldn't even want to think about and touch that kind of ilumanati , if you want to know the answer :) the only answer would be God ,

Hope it helps :) not trying bible bash anyone here , but just try not to plague with those sort of stuff :)
 
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jun1234

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play*, my bad auto correct
 
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Donkeyfish07

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#43
"So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you
Luke 11.9
To be honest I wouldn't even want to think about and touch that kind of ilumanati , if you want to know the answer :) the only answer would be God ,

Hope it helps :) not trying bible bash anyone here , but just try not to plague with those sort of stuff :)
Your right, God should definitely be the most important part of our lives and the only one we trust 100% to lead us into all truth. Still yet, I don't think being educated about our enemies is "plaguing".
 
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Tintin

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My understanding is that the Illuminati are real but greatly exaggerated to the point where it becomes an elaborate hoax. Secret societies have always intrigued people, and this is no different. For a secret society, there sure is a lot of 'information' out there about them. In other words, they're crap at their job. Mormons on the other hand, and Freemasons are influential in society (but don't have anywhere near the power that they're often reputed to have). Still, we should be discerning, especially with anything that looks like Christianity but isn't of God.
 
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One of the posts nailed it. Do you think the Antichrist is just going to pop on the scene without the stage being set? Don't you see the NWO already in place? Don't you see the combining of religions, such as Universalism, Crislam, etc., pointing to the Antichrist? SEEK, & YE SHALL FIND! It's right in front of our eyes, yet many refuse to see it for what it is. Just like the Jews refuse to see Jesus as their Messiah. *Wonders if unbelieving Spiritual Israel has their eyes blinded to the truth, as well*
 

Shilo

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American Stonehenge

On one of the highest hilltops in Elbert County, Georgia stands a huge granite monument. Engraved in eight different languages on the four giant stones that support the common capstone are 10 Guides, or commandments. That monument is alternately referred to as The Georgia Guidestones, or the American Stonehenge. Though relatively unknown to most people, it is an important link to the Occult Hierarchy that dominates the world in which we live.

The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction. All that is known for certain is that in June 1979, a well-dressed, articulate stranger visited the office of the Elberton Granite Finishing Company and announced that he wanted to build an edifice to transmit a message to mankind. He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented. Several things are apparent. The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields: (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government, (2) Population and reproduction control, (3) The environment and man's relationship to nature, and (4) Spirituality.

In the public library in Elberton, I found a book written by the man who called himself R.C. Christian. I discovered that the monument he commissioned had been erected in recognition of Thomas Paine and the occult philosophy he espoused. Indeed, the Georgia Guidestones are used for occult ceremonies and mystic celebrations to this very day. Tragically, only one religious leader in the area had the courage to speak out against the American Stonehenge, and he has recently relocated his ministry.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.
The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended.
Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:
"I want people to know about the stones ... We're headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist ... it's a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. " (1)
What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones is one of many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, however, are dark spiritual forces. Without understanding the nature of those dark forces it is impossible to understand the unfolding of world events.
The fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones or their message to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people think. We ignore that message at our peril.
 
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Jennyyyyy

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I don't really know or care for that matter what they're called.
I'm still on the fence with this, I found this site today
The Hidden Symbolic Meaning of the Movie "2012" - The Vigilant Citizen
and if you kinda search around there, some of the posts are really hard to rationalize. Like yeah, masonic symbols and triangles and the hand over the eye thing, the horns on head, etc, it sounds like a bunch of bs. BUT after reading a LOT about it, and watching countless hours of youtube (i will never get that time back -_-) I'm more on the 'this is real' side of the fence. It's just everywhere, all over the place, and nauseatingly blatant that it's really tough to deny it.
it's messed up.
 

ThriftShopPop

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All I have to say; its like a rabit hole...conspiracy or not once you look into it...its takes a long, long time to get out!
 

Drett

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So from what I can see, the people that believe it have done extensive research. The people who don't , generally do not want to waste time on it.
 

zone

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So from what I can see, the people that believe it have done extensive research. The people who don't , generally do not want to waste time on it.
...or....they fear the stigma - CT
why shouldn't they? they've been bleating it about others for years.
dat's how it rolls.
 

Nautilus

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So from what I can see, the people that believe it have done extensive research. The people who don't , generally do not want to waste time on it.
life has far more interesting things to offer than researching possible shadowy organizations. Besides the people researching dot want to come up emptyhanded. And I doubt any of them found definitive proof. So its mostly probably conjecture and emotional impulses.
 

Drett

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life has far more interesting things to offer than researching possible shadowy organizations. Besides the people researching dot want to come up emptyhanded. And I doubt any of them found definitive proof. So its mostly probably conjecture and emotional impulses.
True of course, there are far more interesting things to think about but then wouldn't that make you a person that does not have an opinion on it rather than a person who does not believe it ?
 
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MatthewMichael

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Ive done the research and am entirely convinced its real and that the Bible confirms the conspiracy just curious what some other members of the bride think.anybody?
All names aside - of course there are human beings at the top - people with wealth and knowledge we are not privy to. And if you were on top, would you want to stay there, or fall down the ranks? You'd want to stay, and you'd do what you could to keep yourself and your family in power. You don't need to research it to draw a logical conclusion about it.

If you haven't yet , you might enjoy reading The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin. It deals with the inception and life of the Federal Reserve Banking System that owns this country.

PS. the people with "far better things to do than research" this or that... LOL. Please. You're on this forum like everyone else. Get off your high horse before you fall and land on your face. If you were so busy being "interesting", you wouldn't be here struggling to make comments that aren't interesting in spite of the effort you put into them.
 
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Donkeyfish07

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life has far more interesting things to offer than researching possible shadowy organizations. Besides the people researching dot want to come up emptyhanded. And I doubt any of them found definitive proof. So its mostly probably conjecture and emotional impulses.
Your definitely right about a lot of it being conjecture. Existence of the Illuminati though is a Historical fact and there is definitive proof of that, it was founded in Bavaria in the 1700's. You have the one side that believes that the organization didn't survive the 1700's and the other side that thinks they are still around and operational.
 
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jerusalem

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look into biblical archeology first. you will find all the satanic illuminati symbols and there meanings there first. the triagle sign made with the hands is the symbol of asherah.... making the pyramid the asherah 'pole'. the covering of one eye with a hand is the symbol for the sun god who goes by multitudinous names as demonstrated by the multiple names of baal i e lord. if you watch visual media at all you will see these symbols being shown, along with others, by those who have sold their souls to satan today. you will even see vast numbers of televangelists doing this. those who don't follow satan don't do this. you will also notice when following public figures the point at which they begin to do this.....that is the point of their conversion. the illuminati believe that this world has passed the point of no return and therefore are not as threatened by exposure. it was always their intention to let people know who they are once it was too late to stop them. they believe that the majority will refuse to believe the truth because they are too afraid to accept it. they will accept the lies instead because it is the safest thing to do. the consequences for unbelievers will be too severe for the majority to face. satan will claim to be the messiah and people will believe him. just as scripture says
 
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http://www.summitlighthouse.org/Teachers/Ascended-Masters/index.html

if you ever have seen a pyramid drawing of their hierarchy(below) the white brotherhood (or seven ascended masters of the seven rays) they are found at the top of the pyramid.

http://www.truthcontrol.com/pictures/pyramid-illuminati


the mind of Aleister Crowley
http://hermetic.com/norton/pdf/goetia.pdf


the history is rooted in Hinduism the one religion that where just about anything is a god.
As far as illuminati goes what you see in 20th century new age practice is very similar however not organized or a secret society.(where it originally started in Europe)
and you can find all sorts of strange people on youtube whom channel (the ascended masters).

this is why I don't like "the watchers".
 
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prodigal

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well i just come back from the bilderberg group meeting and thats real
 
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it's also deceptive as far as you read the information from the lighthouse summit and you think doesn't sound bad.

it's all peace and love and yet where's jesus?

"oh he's one of them too"
 
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Donkeyfish07

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well i just come back from the bilderberg group meeting and thats real
I heard there were an insane amount of protestors at this year's meeting
 

Nautilus

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look into biblical archeology first. you will find all the satanic illuminati symbols and there meanings there first. the triagle sign made with the hands is the symbol of asherah.... making the pyramid the asherah 'pole'. the covering of one eye with a hand is the symbol for the sun god who goes by multitudinous names as demonstrated by the multiple names of baal i e lord. if you watch visual media at all you will see these symbols being shown, along with others, by those who have sold their souls to satan today. you will even see vast numbers of televangelists doing this. those who don't follow satan don't do this. you will also notice when following public figures the point at which they begin to do this.....that is the point of their conversion. the illuminati believe that this world has passed the point of no return and therefore are not as threatened by exposure. it was always their intention to let people know who they are once it was too late to stop them. they believe that the majority will refuse to believe the truth because they are too afraid to accept it. they will accept the lies instead because it is the safest thing to do. the consequences for unbelievers will be too severe for the majority to face. satan will claim to be the messiah and people will believe him. just as scripture says
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