In Canada where Restaurant owners are dragged off in handcuffs for breaking COVID mandates.

[Roughsoul1991]

Do you vote in fire regulations, building codes etc.,?

Buildings must conform to the code to obtain planning permission, usually from a local council. The main purpose of building codes is to protect public health, safety and general welfare as they relate to the construction and occupancy of buildings and structures. The building code becomes the law of a particular jurisdiction when formally enacted by the appropriate governmental or private authority.

Do the citizens vote in their local, state, or federal authorities?

When a jurisdiction adopts a code, the code becomes law, and the referenced standards are also incorporated into the law. As we know, codes and standards mandated for the construction, operation, and maintenance of a building and its systems have an economic impact on the owner of the facility, the manufacturers of the materials and equipment used, and the service providers who construct and maintain the facility.

When we elect our governing officials and they hire people below them then our elections influence goes to far greater lengths than most understand.

 

[Absolutely]

so, still no condemnation of tyrannical gov. strong arming citizens .

this is why i stopped interacting with you.

you seem to have some type of condition that prevents your hand from typing anything negative about heavy-handed gov. tactics ,but when it comes to bashing trump, that condition suddenly gets a lot better....

Those marching to the swamp /deep state/luciferian drumbeat are operating in fear.

I have a friend that has basically ended a 40+ yr friendship when I showed him the corruption of his democrat idol/and "god"

It believe 100% his root of deception is the 4k check he gets from the government.
That,combined with the propaganda has him irrevocably ignorant.

Ignorance and propaganda are now his soulmates.

They park there,pitch their tent there,and it has consumed them.

They are,without a miracle,unreachable.

Holy Spirit come.
Come and touch them

 

[EleventhHour]

this is why i stopped interacting with you.

So you stop interacting, but feel it is necessary to respond to me and make assumptions once again. LOL

 

[EleventhHour]

Buildings must conform to the code to obtain planning permission, usually from a local council. The main purpose of building codes is to protect public health, safety and general welfare as they relate to the construction and occupancy of buildings and structures. The building code becomes the law of a particular jurisdiction when formally enacted by the appropriate governmental or private authority.

Do the citizens vote in their local, state, or federal authorities?

When a jurisdiction adopts a code, the code becomes law, and the referenced standards are also incorporated into the law. As we know, codes and standards mandated for the construction, operation, and maintenance of a building and its systems have an economic impact on the owner of the facility, the manufacturers of the materials and equipment used, and the service providers who construct and maintain the facility.

When we elect our governing officials and they hire people below them then our elections influence goes to far greater lengths than most understand.

So the government, local and state and federal, has something to say about the safety then.
Agree

 

[Roughsoul1991]

So the government, local and state and federal, has something to say about the safety then.
Agree

Who said they didn't? A law must not override other laws in our Constitution. For example, a mask mandate which isn't law can not override religious freedom and the right to assemble. For example, we had a big family get together for Thanksgiving and ignored any mandates because they are not law. We practiced our right to assemble and protest the government. We went to church Sunday. We practiced our right to worship.

But even if a law is passed that counters God to such a degree, we are to disobey that law. Peter, Jesus, Paul, Daniel and others did this very thing.

From America our foundation actually says our rights come from God and no man can give or take them away. If need be our laws actually call to disband the government through the 2nd Amendment. Foundation being the Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights.

 

[EleventhHour]

Who said they didn't? A law must not override other laws in our Constitution. For example, a mask mandate which isn't law can not override religious freedom and the right to assemble. For example, we had a big family get together for Thanksgiving and ignored any mandates because they are not law. We practiced our right to assemble and protest the government. We went to church Sunday. We practiced our right to worship.

But even if a law is passed that counters God to such a degree, we are to disobey that law. Peter, Jesus, Paul, Daniel and others did this very thing.

From America our foundation actually says our rights come from God and no man can give or take them away. If need be our laws actually call to disband the government through the 2nd Amendment. Foundation being the Declaration, Constitution, and Bill of Rights.

Well then, the results of your mindset, not really biblical btw, are quite evident as your country faces ongoing challenges with no immediate end in sight.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Well then, the results of your mindset, not really biblical btw, are quite evident as your country faces ongoing challenges with no immediate end in sight.

Biblical aye?

Which is worse?

People's Republic of Mozambique
Body Count: 700,000
1975-1990 (15 years)100,000 civilians murdered between 1986 and mid-1988 (Young 1991) and 600,000 starved to death between 1975-1985 (Courtois 1999).

Covid-19
United States
Confirmed
13,506,766
Deaths
270,520

300,000 vs 700,000?

Liberty vs socialism?


"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." ― Thomas Jefferson

Once liberty is gone and our Republic shifted to a Democratic Republic run by socialism. It will not take long for power to fall by mob rule to one group. History tells us the same stories over and over again.

The love of my neighbor means I must protect their rights because their life is at greater risk to lose liberty vs a virus.

 

[EleventhHour]

Biblical aye?

Which is worse?People's Republic of Mozambique
Body Count: 700,000
1975-1990 (15 years)100,000 civilians murdered between 1986 and mid-1988 (Young 1991) and 600,000 starved to death between 1975-1985 (Courtois 1999).

Covid-19
United States
Confirmed
13,506,766
Deaths
270,520

300,000 vs 700,000?

Liberty vs socialism?


"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." ― Thomas Jefferson

Once liberty is gone and our Republic shifted to a Democratic Republic run by socialism. It will not take long for power to fall by mob rule to one group. History tells us the same stories over and over again.

The love of my neighbor means I must protect their rights because their life is at greater risk to lose liberty vs a virus.

eople's Republic of Mozambique
Body Count: 700,000
1975-1990 (15 years)100,000 civilians murdered between 1986 and mid-1988 (Young 1991) and 600,000 starved to death between 1975-1985 (Courtois 1999).

Covid-19
United States
Confirmed
13,506,766
Deaths
270,520

300,000 vs 700,000?

Liberty vs socialism?

False equivocation

The love of my neighbor means I must protect their rights because their life is at greater risk to lose liberty vs a virus.

And where does Jesus tell us this exactly?

That is your personal belief which has an underlying faulty assumption that following temporary city ordinances/bylaws is a loss of constitutional liberty.

 

[kaylagrl]

a restaurant isnt an essential service, it could be argued the restautant owner just wanted to make a buck.

It's essential if you're the owner and have bills and workers to pay. How are they suppose to keep the doors open? Every job, e v e r y job is essential to pay the bills and keeps the lights on and food on the table. It's not about "making a buck" running a restaurant is hard work. Even harder when you're forced to shut down every time you turn around.

I would have more respect for this guy if he used his restaurant kitchen to prepared meals for those who were sick and delivered them free of charge to peoples homes.

Don't ever get in to business then, you apparently have no understand of what it takes to stay afloat.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

False equivocation




And where does Jesus tell us this exactly?

That is your personal belief which has an underlying faulty assumption that following temporary city ordinances/bylaws is a loss of constitutional liberty.

Mark 12:30-31
New International Version
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’There is no commandment greater than these.”

I do not want to see my neighbor, my wife, my children, to end up as a socialist statistic. I love them enough to blow the trumpet, to warn them, and if need be to fight for their rights even if they do not understand the times.

It would be faulty, if it lacked warrant. Which it does not. The news article in the OP is part of many which gives warrant to this belief.

 

[EleventhHour]

Mark 12:30-31
New International Version
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’There is no commandment greater than these.”

I do not want to see my neighbor, my wife, my children, to end up as a socialist statistic. I love them enough to blow the trumpet, to warn them, and if need be to fight for their rights even if they do not understand the times.

It would be faulty, if it lacked warrant. Which it does not. The news article in the OP is part of many which gives warrant to this belief.

The text states nothing about socialism.

Somehow in the twisted logic that seems to permeate the news section putting others lives at risk is biblical even though they have not consented....because of one's personal not biblical belief system.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

The text states nothing about socialism.

Somehow in the twisted logic that seems to permeate the news section putting others lives at risk is biblical even though they have not consented....because of one's personal not biblical belief system.

one's personal not biblical belief system

.

I respect your opinion. I'm still not following what you are considering to be not Biblical.

even though they have not consented.

So? The other half wants me to consent while I feel my country, my rights, values, and liberty are at stake. So it's only good if I consent to their beliefs?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

The text states nothing about socialism.

Somehow in the twisted logic that seems to permeate the news section putting others lives at risk is biblical even though they have not consented....because of one's personal not biblical belief system.

Oh and I never claimed a Biblical text stated socialism. What of it?

 

[kaylagrl]

Post # 51 The text states nothing about socialism.

Somehow in the twisted logic that seems to permeate the news section putting others lives at risk is biblical even though they have not consented....because of one's personal not biblical belief system.


Socialist/Communism is a system of belief worth fighting against. It has destroyed many, many lives and killed millions. It is a Godless belief system. Twisted logic would be to allow that into the country to destroy the freedoms that have been won through blood and loss of life and limb. There are a lot of words you won't find in the Bible but that doesn't make them any less dangerous or something we should stand and fight against. Abortion, for example, isn't a word in the Bible, but is the greatest evil of our time.

 

[iamsoandso]

Post # 51 The text states nothing about socialism.

Somehow in the twisted logic that seems to permeate the news section putting others lives at risk is biblical even though they have not consented....because of one's personal not biblical belief system.


Socialist/Communism is a system of belief worth fighting against. It has destroyed many, many lives and killed millions. It is a Godless belief system. Twisted logic would be to allow that into the country to destroy the freedoms that have been won through blood and loss of life and limb. There are a lot of words you won't find in the Bible but that doesn't make them any less dangerous or something we should stand and fight against. Abortion, for example, isn't a word in the Bible, but is the greatest evil of our time.

Yep it began in the late 1800's with Lenin and his accomplices https://www.jpost.com/magazine/was-the-russian-revolution-jewish-514323 and and they murdered 12-20 million Christians but is rarely spoken about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

 

[kaylagrl]

Yep it began in the late 1800's with Lenin and his accomplices https://www.jpost.com/magazine/was-the-russian-revolution-jewish-514323 and and they murdered 12-20 million Christians but is rarely spoken about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

I believe we should fight against it coming to this country with all we have. Those who have lived under it understand the dangers and the loss of freedoms. The pity is America has been lulled to sleep by the "PC" movement that came before all this. Then we have Hollywood and sports people advertising for it. Young people wearing "Che" on their t-shirts having no clue who he actually was. I'm so thankful I had parents that didn't leave it to my teachers to teach me these things. They made sure to teach me their worldview, why we vote the way we do and why it's important to vote. Instilled that in us at a young age. Soon as I was old enough to vote, I was still at home and they told me I needed to listen to the candidates and make a choice and vote. Two things they insisted on in their home, you go to church and you vote. I'm very thankful I was raised that way.

 

[iamsoandso]

I believe we should fight against it coming to this country with all we have. Those who have lived under it understand the dangers and the loss of freedoms. The pity is America has been lulled to sleep by the "PC" movement that came before all this. Then we have Hollywood and sports people advertising for it. Young people wearing "Che" on their t-shirts having no clue who he actually was. I'm so thankful I had parents that didn't leave it to my teachers to teach me these things. They made sure to teach me their worldview, why we vote the way we do and why it's important to vote. Instilled that in us at a young age. Soon as I was old enough to vote, I was still at home and they told me I needed to listen to the candidates and make a choice and vote. Two things they insisted on in their home, you go to church and you vote. I'm very thankful I was raised that way.

They have been in the US as fifth columnist for at least two hundred years now and are in most all of finances,media and politics and businesses.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I believe we should fight against it coming to this country with all we have. Those who have lived under it understand the dangers and the loss of freedoms. The pity is America has been lulled to sleep by the "PC" movement that came before all this. Then we have Hollywood and sports people advertising for it. Young people wearing "Che" on their t-shirts having no clue who he actually was. I'm so thankful I had parents that didn't leave it to my teachers to teach me these things. They made sure to teach me their worldview, why we vote the way we do and why it's important to vote. Instilled that in us at a young age. Soon as I was old enough to vote, I was still at home and they told me I needed to listen to the candidates and make a choice and vote. Two things they insisted on in their home, you go to church and you vote. I'm very thankful I was raised that way.

I believe we should fight against it coming to this country with all we have.

When faced against the potential millions of deaths that socialism has brought. The greatest of good is to defend against such loss. People can only vote for socialism once. Look at Venezuela. The worst part is, I am 98% positive the people of this country did not vote for the Socialist party of Harris. If that's the case then we are at a even more dangerous point of losing Democracy. All of this is worth fighting for. A bipartisan issue. The bladed pendulum may be cutting into us but once full power is given, it will swing in the other direction. Where even the moderate thinkers will be cut down.