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HealthAndHappiness

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However, they could have been posted to stop the hordes from entering on the basis of national security.
Notice the EXCEPTION: "The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law."
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/posse-comitatus-act-explained?

So what was to stop the Republicans -- as a united front -- to expressly authorize the posting of troops at the border? At the same time they could have told Biden that all spending bills would be put on hold and the government would be shut down until and unless the border was shut down. They would talk about this and then do nothing.
That was originally intended as applying to internal issues. The idea was to prevent the internal military force that the Obamanation actually created. Use of military to defend borders, as opposed to foreign entanglements as used today, was the original purpose of military. So there should be no debate as to proper use of military to protect the border from the foreign invasion.
 

Nehemiah6

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So there should be no debate as to proper use of military to protect the border from the foreign invasion.
Former Panama Border Chief: UN Is Behind The Chaos At U.S.–Mexico Border
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/former-panama-border-chief-un-behind-chaos-us-mexico-border
A Venezuelan Explains How (And Why) Criminal Migrants Get To The US
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/venezuelan-explains-how-and-why-criminal-migrants-get-us
GOP Lawmaker Demands Congress Must "Take Action" Against NGOs Facilitating Border Invasion
https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ion-against-ngos-facilitating-border-invasion

The questions no one is asking are these: "Why was Joe Biden allowed to remain president after throwing the border wide open on the first day in office, and why was Mayorkas not impeached four years ago?"
 

Gojira

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Well I agree with part of what your meaning but Abbott and other states have National Guard troops here already and Trump sent 5200 troops here back in 2018 and the border is still not shut down. The issue is because of Posse Comitatus Military troops cannot bare arms against civilians and so just like in 2018 all they can do is support or manual labor unless Congress approves it i.e. HR2. So it would just end up a circular argument where we say Biden can do it with existing laws and then they point out that if that was the truth Trump would have closed it when he was in office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/29/18026646/military-border-caravan-immigrants-trump-caravan
Texas has its own State Military and they are preparing to deploy it.
 

Nehemiah6

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Texas has its own State Military and they are preparing to deploy it.
Rather late in the day. Ten million or more illegals are already in the USA, and a lot of them came through Texas.
 

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Texas has its own State Military and they are preparing to deploy it.

And they should really do something really fast or else people might realize that there are 22 million people in the Mexico City Metropolis that only have a few more months of water left. I guess then the secret will be out of the bag that both Amistad and Falcon reservoir's are so dry that they could just walk across the Rio in multiple places. I guess if they have no water they have to go somewhere but what good is Texas if we're shutting down 100 million dollar farming industries and places like Dripping Springs water wells are pumped dry?

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/08/16/texas-drought-heat-aquifers-groundwater-stress/
https://texasfarmbureau.org/texas-only-sugar-mill-to-close-permanently/
 

iamsoandso

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Rather late in the day. Ten million or more illegals are already in the USA, and a lot of them came through Texas.

We used to tell everyone don't drink the water when they go to Mexico but now fast forwarding to 2024 the Houston water supply is not only the treated sewage from Dallas but even Houston's waste water is treated and reused,,,,so if traveling traveling to Texas "don't drink the water",lol

https://houston.culturemap.com/news...g-water-rather-than-relying-on-dallas-flushes
https://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/2...water-keeps-trinity-flowing-houston-drinking/
 

Gojira

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All of this judgement helps lead people to Christ. People see the things they originally dismissed as conspiracy theory wackadoodle musings taking place and it helps them realize they can't continue to ride the fence.

Ugh... people need to save these posts and throw them back at you when the time passes. For example, your prophetic noises a couple of years ago about the coming famine in the US that was supposed to be... that summer??

You need to give this up bro. State opinions, conjecture, but learn from history and stop interpreting Revelation through the lens of the current headline.
 

Gojira

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Rather late in the day. Ten million or more illegals are already in the USA, and a lot of them came through Texas.
They were doing things the way they were "supposed to", i.e., let the Feds do it. I think Texas has had enough. Unfortunately Lake is not governor of my state because I think similar things would be happening here.
 

ZNP

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Ugh... people need to save these posts and throw them back at you when the time passes. For example, your prophetic noises a couple of years ago about the coming famine in the US that was supposed to be... that summer??

You need to give this up bro. State opinions, conjecture, but learn from history and stop interpreting Revelation through the lens of the current headline.
Really, I think Post #2 in Is this the Start of the Civil War in the US? is very clear about what I believe. Why don't you accurately quote me instead of making stuff up?

My understanding is that the Worldwide Pandemic that began in Fall of 2020 and concluding in the Vaccine mandate in 2021 was our warning that the king is coming and we have ten years to prepare to meet our God. What we are seeing in the Mid East is the proxy war in Psalm 83. This will lead to the war in Ezekiel 38 and that will conclude with Armageddon.

I also believe that 2024 is the year we see the beast system with AI, Drones, robots, and machine learning rise out of the nations.

I also believe the seven years of plent is over and you we have entered the 7 lean years of famine.

Most importantly I believe there is salvation in no other name than Jesus.
 

Nehemiah6

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They were doing things the way they were "supposed to", i.e., let the Feds do it. I think Texas has had enough. Unfortunately Lake is not governor of my state because I think similar things would be happening here.
Now there is a news item that Biden and Trump would visit the border on the same day -- Thursday this week. Now why would Trump want to do something like this, instead of allowing Biden to make a fool of himself at the border? Biden will lie through his teeth, and he and the Democrats have already been blaming Trump for the border crisis or gaslighting the public by saying repeatedly "The border is secure".
 

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2024 February Prophecy Update--READY TO BLOW?


End of days deception the most dangerous change and the number 1 sign of the end of the age.
 

Nehemiah6

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MAJORITY of Americans WANT a Border Wall for First Time in History – And All It Took was 3 Years of Joe Biden’s Open Borders and 10 Million Illegal Migrants
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/majority-americans-want-border-wall-first-time-history/

A Monmouth poll released Monday shows that 53 percent of Americans now support building a wall on the southern border with Mexico. Forty-six percent still oppose it...
According to the House Committee on Homeland Security, the massive cost to house and take care of illegal aliens and so-called asylum seekers inside the US is $451 billion.

Yet the Democrats and RINOs refused to give Trump the few millions (or billions) he needed for the border wall. Even if it cost a few billion it would have been a bargain. Especially if Mexico had been forced to pay for it or lose all trade and access through the border. Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, and that could have been part of any trade deal. Why? Because Mexico has been at war with the USA for over 200 years.

And when Trump said "wall" it should have literally been a wall. Not a fence. Actually two 20 feet thick reinforced concrete walls, with a no-man's-land in between. And at least 100 feet high. and 100 feet under the ground (to block all tunnels). With electronic surveillance above every inch of wall, and armed drones patrolling above to stop the cartels from military attacks against the wall. Mexico’s Drug Lords Ramp Up Their Arsenals with RPGs.https://world.time.com/2012/10/25/mexicos-drug-lords-ramp-up-their-arsenals-with-rpgs/

At the same time, America should have demanded that Mexico ensure that no illegal drugs or arms were to come through at strictly controlled border crossings. . Then inspected each and every vehicle coming through for drugs, illegals, and any kind of contraband. Once Mexico saw that the USA was extremely serious about this, it would have taken the necessary steps to clean up its act. And confiscated the billions held by the cartels so that ordinary Mexicans and Central Americans could benefit from all the cash south of the border.

All immigration through that border would have also have required strict vetting for bogus "asylum seekers" and "refugees". And absolutely no one from Venezuela, Cuba, China, Africa, or the Middle East would be allowed through that border. Venezuela is sending its criminals into the USA, and they are forming gangs to attack ordinary citizens. China and the Middle East are building sleeper cells within the US to act as terrorists. But as usual all the politicians are asleep at the wheel.
 

Gojira

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Really, I think Post #2 in Is this the Start of the Civil War in the US? is very clear about what I believe. Why don't you accurately quote me instead of making stuff up?

My understanding is that the Worldwide Pandemic that began in Fall of 2020 and concluding in the Vaccine mandate in 2021 was our warning that the king is coming and we have ten years to prepare to meet our God. What we are seeing in the Mid East is the proxy war in Psalm 83. This will lead to the war in Ezekiel 38 and that will conclude with Armageddon.

I also believe that 2024 is the year we see the beast system with AI, Drones, robots, and machine learning rise out of the nations.

I also believe the seven years of plent is over and you we have entered the 7 lean years of famine.

Most importantly I believe there is salvation in no other name than Jesus.
This just makes my point 110%.
 

ZNP

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This just makes my point 110%.
Making my point 100%

If Jesus was crucified on 33AD* that can be considered the end of the "4th" day and the start of the 5th day. Jesus likened His death to the sky being red at night. In Jewish understanding the day begins with the night. The Passover was the start of the Exodus, the beginning of the year to the Jews. We are told that when Jesus ascended that He would return the same way. If we assume that He will return on the day of ascension 2,000 years later (after 2 days) we can say that His return will be 2033AD. Also, most if not all Bible scholars place the date of the crucifixion between 30AD and 33AD. I have always considered that 40 years prior to the destruction of the temple was like the 40 day warning given by Jonah. The Jews were given a 40 year warning and since we know it was destroyed in 70AD that 40 year warning began in 30AD. Either Jesus ministry began in 30AD or the crucifixion was in 30AD. In the story of Jonah he is spit up on the seaside by the fish and then takes a good part of a day to journey to the city of Nineveh. Jesus ministry began in the Fall with the Feast of trumpets and the day of Atonement. Six months later it is Nisan 1 and the start of the religious year.

Many people talk about the tribulation being seven years but it is ten days from Feast of Trumpets to the Day of Atonement. So in typology I see the warning that the king is coming begins ten years prior to the day of Atonement. Seven days before the day of Atonement the high priest is taken into the temple chamber to prepare for the day of atonement. I believe that is a type of the rapture. The priests begin their ministry at 30, but men who are 20 can go to war. I believe Jesus began "going to war" at 20 and ten years later began His ministry. When you get into the word of God it begins with study but eventually it leads to spiritual warfare.

So then let's use the same model. If 33AD is when Jesus was crucified and that was when He was 33, then 20AD is when He began the warfare. 2,000 years later in 2020 we began the warfare with the pandemic and 2033 could signal the end of the sixth day and the beginning of the millennial reign. It turns out that on the Feast of Trumpets in 2020 the world shut down their economy due to the pandemic, that should have been the Trumpet given to all that the day of the Lord was at hand and that God was declaring a sabbath fast to prepare, just as Joel says. However, the feast of Trumpets is known as the longest day because you might not spot that sliver of the new moon. By the Feast of Trumpets in 2021 they were mandating the vaccine, violating international law, and that should have been when it was clear to all what was going on.

In February of 2022 Russia invaded Ukraine. From January of 2021 to the present the US has had approximately 28-30% inflation. For the poor this is a "famine". People who live paycheck to paycheck cannot afford to lose 30% of their money's value. Repo's are up, and the poor have to chose between eating or medicine. In the US the "famine" is not so noticeable, but go to China and it is catastrophic with an estimated 50% unemployment. During the depth of the great depression in the US we maxed out at a little over 25% unemployment. We are also seeing the rise of Artificial Intelligence and the ability to make deep fakes that are incredibly deceptive. We use to think that if we had a video of someone speaking that this would not be misquoted, but no more. The level of deception is greater now than ever in human history. Finally, we are learning that the "vaccine" that they gave to the whole world is a far greater health crisis than Covid19 was. Tens of millions have died as a result. Actuary tables show that with each booster shot odds of dying increases by 5%. The shot is said to weaken your immune system with each booster making it more and more likely for a new and deadlier pandemic to strike. These are the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Then on October 17, 2023 Hamas invaded Israel. The word Hamas in Hebrew is "violence", just as in Noah's day violence was everywhere. This was very likely the start of Jacob's trouble, a ten year period that precedes the Day of Judgement. The seven year tribulation would be the last seven years of that time.

We received a warning, a heavenly sign in 2017 that this judgement was coming on the US, a three year warning before 2020. That was the solar eclipse. We also received another solar eclipse in 2023, October 14th, over the US. That could be a three year warning pointing to 2026. Finally there is a third heavenly sign over the US, the third solar eclipse writing the name "alpha and omega" or "aleph Tav" over the US. That could be a 3 year warning pointing to 2027.

*We have fascinating report from China of both a solar eclipse and a blood moon taking place on what would have been Passover (Nisan 14) on 33AD.
 

ZNP

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An illogical assumption

We had a sign of two cows with the number seven on each which we understood to mean seven years of plenty followed by seven years of famine. Since the tribulation is seven years long many assumed that the seven years of famine would correspond with the start of the tribulation. That is illogical. We know that the tribulation begins with the Antichrist confirming or strengthening the covenant with the many. At this point in human history we see this covenant with the many referring to the 17 sustainable development goals being passed in the UN concerning climate change. We also know that Satan uses chaos to push people to accept his "world order". In other words the reason that people accept the Antichrists draconian rules is because of famine. The famine creates a crisis that the Antichrist then steps in to solve. Therefore it is illogical to assume that the seven year famine corresponds with the seven year tribulation, rather the famine will precede the start of the seven year tribulation by at least a year or more in the same way that you bring the house lights down at the start of a show to alert the audience that everything is about to start.

Think of gears and as one wheel turns it turns a second wheel. The famine wheel turns the Climate change covenant wheel and that wheel turns the wheel that brings Antichrist to power.
 

ZNP

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Consider the hypocrisy of blindness

If we had 50% unemployment in the US everyone would agree that this was the tribulation and famine. But the US is 5% of the world's population, China is three times as many and they have 50% unemployment. Consider Israel, the entire world is accusing them of genocide, how is that not the start of Jacob's trouble? When Jesus was crucified the Sanhedrin bribed people to shout "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!" Righteous judgement is "as you have done it will be done unto you". Can't you see that today the whole world has been bribed to shout "crucify Israel! Crucify Israel!" This is righteous judgement. Just recently we learned that the US had 12 secret CIA bases in Ukraine. That means when Russia invaded Ukraine that the US and Russia went to war. Since then they have been desperate to send tens and even hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine. We thought that the red line to WW3 would be when we sent F16s and Abrams tanks. We have already crossed that line. We thought when NATO goes to war with Russia that would be the red line, we have already crossed that line. Before we invaded Normandy we sent in paratroopers to help create chaos at the time of the invasion. We can assume that Russia (and N. Korea, Iran, China and Venezuela) would all do the same. We have 10 million illegals who have flooded into the country and dispersed into all the cities. How blind do you have to be to not see that we are at war and that WW3 has already begun?
 

Gojira

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Making my point 100%

If Jesus was crucified on 33AD* that can be considered the end of the "4th" day and the start of the 5th day. Jesus likened His death to the sky being red at night. In Jewish understanding the day begins with the night. The Passover was the start of the Exodus, the beginning of the year to the Jews. We are told that when Jesus ascended that He would return the same way. If we assume that He will return on the day of ascension 2,000 years later (after 2 days) we can say that His return will be 2033AD. Also, most if not all Bible scholars place the date of the crucifixion between 30AD and 33AD. I have always considered that 40 years prior to the destruction of the temple was like the 40 day warning given by Jonah. The Jews were given a 40 year warning and since we know it was destroyed in 70AD that 40 year warning began in 30AD. Either Jesus ministry began in 30AD or the crucifixion was in 30AD. In the story of Jonah he is spit up on the seaside by the fish and then takes a good part of a day to journey to the city of Nineveh. Jesus ministry began in the Fall with the Feast of trumpets and the day of Atonement. Six months later it is Nisan 1 and the start of the religious year.

Many people talk about the tribulation being seven years but it is ten days from Feast of Trumpets to the Day of Atonement. So in typology I see the warning that the king is coming begins ten years prior to the day of Atonement. Seven days before the day of Atonement the high priest is taken into the temple chamber to prepare for the day of atonement. I believe that is a type of the rapture. The priests begin their ministry at 30, but men who are 20 can go to war. I believe Jesus began "going to war" at 20 and ten years later began His ministry. When you get into the word of God it begins with study but eventually it leads to spiritual warfare.

So then let's use the same model. If 33AD is when Jesus was crucified and that was when He was 33, then 20AD is when He began the warfare. 2,000 years later in 2020 we began the warfare with the pandemic and 2033 could signal the end of the sixth day and the beginning of the millennial reign. It turns out that on the Feast of Trumpets in 2020 the world shut down their economy due to the pandemic, that should have been the Trumpet given to all that the day of the Lord was at hand and that God was declaring a sabbath fast to prepare, just as Joel says. However, the feast of Trumpets is known as the longest day because you might not spot that sliver of the new moon. By the Feast of Trumpets in 2021 they were mandating the vaccine, violating international law, and that should have been when it was clear to all what was going on.

In February of 2022 Russia invaded Ukraine. From January of 2021 to the present the US has had approximately 28-30% inflation. For the poor this is a "famine". People who live paycheck to paycheck cannot afford to lose 30% of their money's value. Repo's are up, and the poor have to chose between eating or medicine. In the US the "famine" is not so noticeable, but go to China and it is catastrophic with an estimated 50% unemployment. During the depth of the great depression in the US we maxed out at a little over 25% unemployment. We are also seeing the rise of Artificial Intelligence and the ability to make deep fakes that are incredibly deceptive. We use to think that if we had a video of someone speaking that this would not be misquoted, but no more. The level of deception is greater now than ever in human history. Finally, we are learning that the "vaccine" that they gave to the whole world is a far greater health crisis than Covid19 was. Tens of millions have died as a result. Actuary tables show that with each booster shot odds of dying increases by 5%. The shot is said to weaken your immune system with each booster making it more and more likely for a new and deadlier pandemic to strike. These are the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Then on October 17, 2023 Hamas invaded Israel. The word Hamas in Hebrew is "violence", just as in Noah's day violence was everywhere. This was very likely the start of Jacob's trouble, a ten year period that precedes the Day of Judgement. The seven year tribulation would be the last seven years of that time.

We received a warning, a heavenly sign in 2017 that this judgement was coming on the US, a three year warning before 2020. That was the solar eclipse. We also received another solar eclipse in 2023, October 14th, over the US. That could be a three year warning pointing to 2026. Finally there is a third heavenly sign over the US, the third solar eclipse writing the name "alpha and omega" or "aleph Tav" over the US. That could be a 3 year warning pointing to 2027.

*We have fascinating report from China of both a solar eclipse and a blood moon taking place on what would have been Passover (Nisan 14) on 33AD.
Yeah, okay. Sorry, not buying that you somehow have it all figured out. Know why? Because a year from now, as you have already done, you'll be updating your predictions.
 

ZNP

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Yeah, okay. Sorry, not buying that you somehow have it all figured out. Know why? Because a year from now, as you have already done, you'll be updating your predictions.
So put the location of that post in your phone to remind you in a year and then bring it forward.