Iran the new Persia, Rise of the Empire

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Engage in hyperbole much? Tell me how ISIS, most of Islam for that matter, China, the southeast Asian countries, etc. "follow Roman doctrine"? Your views are too westernized to see the reality of what the Revelation to John actually teaches. To understand what he wrote, you have to drop the concept of westernized culture having any role whatsoever in those final days. Westernized culture is completely missing from the biblical accounts.
most of the world churches follow the roman church, who defined what false religion they should follow.


mabe america, they are missing because they are wiped out before the end time,

or mabe God has not given you this knowledge yet about there idenity.


I would not say that all Western cultures are wiped out before the end time events because the bible says that the man of sin goes out to all the nations and persecutes and kills all that stand up for Jesus name. Most of those who speak up for His name are in westernized nations.

Second the bible uses animal symbolism for nations/kingdoms in prophecy, and one thing that is overlooked in Revelation 12 is that it says Israel is given two wings of a great eagle to protect her for a time, times, and half a time. And America is that great eagle nation and has always backed and supported Israel.
 

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Second the bible uses animal symbolism for nations/kingdoms in prophecy, and one thing that is overlooked in Revelation 12 is that it says Israel is given two wings of a great eagle to protect her for a time, times, and half a time. And America is that great eagle nation and has always backed and supported Israel.

what is over looked is, because God is hidding his eyes from Isreal(sinning Jacob)

people do not even see them eather but lost to the world.

but the dying Isreal, stamped his name on his 2 grand kids,

and adopted them and gives clues of these half egypt boys latter days.


the Jews in ther city is only the jews, with ben, and levi thrown in.


who they are depends on who you ask, the current queen swore her direct decendent to davids throne,

also coronated there kings on the stone of destinte, they have possesion of ,

and sing zadok the priest, and do it the about exact same way david did.

but now the queen probley would denie this now, but once swore this as true, and crowned this way.

the new king may make sherie law ok, and we laugh at them on new t.v. show here, the forgot name.

And Jacob set up a pillar in the place where he talked with him, even a pillar of stone:
and he poured a drink offering thereon, and he poured oil thereon.

there is also others that see Gods beautful,bounty full country, the usa, as given by devine intervention.

i wish i had my wife, scrabble former pro, helping me spell ,she's in bed, would make tons faster.

these three brothers, northern 2 kids,and judah are seperate physical peoples

and the brother hood has now been broken
 
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Nonsense.

The idea that a backwards little country like Iran is any match for the might of the US Empire with over 130 military bases on foreign soils across the globe?

I'd say that's almost treasonous to be afraid.

What little faith you have in the largest socialist economy in the world - The US military.

Oh Noes... the Iranians are coming! Wooooooooo!!! scary!!! NOT!

no problem for iran, couple small light missles, could now close two vital world oil sea gates ,

oh wait they allready planted mines , just for this purpose, and promised to use if any country attacked.

they dont have to hit us direct, we have lots of other bad nations at war, at war with us and the dollor.

talk about world grind to a halt, by then they will have finished rusias pipeline , oil to deliver to china,

so russia can close taps on europe.., world war 3 started, when germany took something from russia.

but our eye has to be on the city of pease, that has no rest of her enemies,

and what he said would happen in latter days to Jacobs kin, because we are in them.


while Irans plan is still in full steam, so many delays of nuke talk

The Strategic Genius of Iran's Supreme Leader - Council on Foreign Relations


number one terrest sponcer for many many years., and now waging war on rome, by isis,or islamic forces.


who do you think started isis in the first place, funded them and used them in there war,

who by the way in there eyes, we are little satan and big satan, and must be killed for virgins to come.


but the pope and europe will not let the city fall in there hands.

the king south, pushing at the north now, now
 
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When Ephraim saw his sickness, and Judah saw his wound, then went Ephraim to the Assyrian,
and sent to king Jareb: yet could he not heal you, nor cure you of your wound.


 

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news about U.S. No Longer Considers Iran and Hezbollah ‘Global Terrorism’ Threats

No United States government official or agency has ever publicly stated that Iran and Hezbollah are not threats to the United States—for good reason. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (odni)—the principal administrator of the 17-member U.S. Intelligence Community, which includes the State Department, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, the National Security Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation—has, for example, always said that Iran and Hezbollah posed threats to the U.S.


The odni, however, made controversial headlines about what it chose not to say about Iran and Hezbollah in its February 26 “Statement for the Record Worldwide Threat Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Community.”
http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Unclassified_2015_ATA_SFR_-_SASC_FINAL.pdf

All the directors of National Intelligence, from Bush-nominated John Negroponte (2005-2007) and J. Michael McConnell (2007-2008), to Obama-nominated Dennis Blair (2009-2010) and James Clapper (2010-present), have said that Iran and Hezbollah are threats to the United States. Clapper’s annual reports from 2011 to 2014 condemned Iran in the reports’ “Terrorism” sections. Hezbollah was also included in that section in Clapper’s 2014 report. However, both Iran and Hezbollah are conspicuously absent from the “Terrorism” section of this year’s threat assessment report.
http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/20110310_testimony_clapper.pdf
http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Intelligence Reports/2014 WWTA SFR_SSCI_29_Jan.pdf


Even though the report has a lot of negative assessments of Iran, it has some uncharacteristically positive comments. It mentions how Iraq’s military, Peshmerga fighters and Shiite militants—“bolstered by air and artillery strikes, weapons and advice from the United States, Arab and Western allies, and Iran—have prevented [the Islamic State] from gaining large swaths of additional territory” (emphasis added throughout).

Hezbollah

Even though odni spokesman Brian Hale said that “Hezbollah and Iran are still a threat,” James Clapper’s 2015 report mentions Iran’s Lebanon-based terrorist proxy, Hezbollah, only once—as a victim of “terrorist groups, including the al-Nusrah Front and [the Islamic State].”

It’s not a small thing to completely omit that Hezbollah, is an instrument of “Iran’s foreign policy and its ability to project power in Iraq, Syria and beyond,” as the Defense Intelligence Agency reported on the same day the odni produced its assessment.
Statement for the Record: Worldwide Threat Assessment > Defense Intelligence Agency > Article View

Hezbollah has never apologized or repented of its actions, yet it was not mentioned in any negative light in the odni report.

Hezbollah has deluded and eluded security authorities across the globe to the extent that it took Europe 30 years to decide that the terrorist organization was indeed a terrorist organization. Still, some of these same nations only apply that designation to Hezbollah’s military wing—but not its political wing—a wing Hezbollah itself does not claim to have.
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100811_hezbollah_radical_rational

Today, we see the United States changing its tone toward Iran and Hezbollah, legitimizing Hezbollah, desperately negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran, and forsaking Israel—its most loyal ally in the Middle East—in the process.

The U.S.’s move to declassify Iran and Hezbollah as terrorist threats will only lead to more terror.
 

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Ways to Identify the ‘King of the South’ of Bible Prophecy

Daniel 11 contains the main passage

The king of the south allies itself in some way with Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia—countries all recognizable by the same names today. The prophecy also shows the king of the south is aggressive enough to cause another major power to react against it with violence.

This prophesied king of the south is radical Islam, led by Iran!

The prophesied king of the south is a power that has a pushy foreign policy; rules an area located south of the Holy Land and south of the king of the north; allies with Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia; and excludes Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon.

More and more, it is becoming undeniably clear that the king of the south is Iran!

Today, Iran’s radical Islamist alliance is forming around Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Yemen, Ethiopia, Egypt and part of Sudan. While some of this territory lies east of the Holy Land, most of it is located to the south. The Bible calls this power the king of the south, and Iran already strongly influences or is allied with these nations south of Israel. And more generally speaking, all of these countries lie south of the king of the north, German-led Europe.


Daniel 11:40 says that the king of the south will direct its terrorist-backed foreign policy against the king of the north, and that the king of the north will mobilize against this southern alliance and destroy it like a whirlwind. Verse 42 indicates that the king of the north will also attack Egypt because it is allied with the king of the south. Therefore, Egypt itself cannot be the king of the south.

Daniel 11:43 shows that the king of the north will also conquer Libya and Ethiopia, because they are allied with the king of the south.

Psalm 83 describes a mysterious end-time alliance that forms to destroy the modern descendants of Israel. Verses 6-7 list several Middle Eastern nations that do not ally with the king of the south, but instead with the European king of the north.

Tracing the names of these ancient lands mentioned in Psalm 83 to their modern equivalents, you find that Edom is Turkey, the Ishmaelites are Saudi Arabia, Moab and Ammon are both Jordan, the Hagarenes are located in Syria, and Gebal is Lebanon. No alliance composed of the powers listed in this prophecy has ever existed in history. Putting the prophetic pieces together, we see that this alliance will actually form after the king of the north destroys the king of the south. So none of these nations can be the king of the south. ▪
 

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Second the bible uses animal symbolism for nations/kingdoms in prophecy, and one thing that is overlooked in Revelation 12 is that it says Israel is given two wings of a great eagle to protect her for a time, times, and half a time. And America is that great eagle nation and has always backed and supported Israel.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness,


this woman is the church,not a country but the bride to be, not physical Isreal.
 
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Roman Catholic Salvation and Justification
https://books.google.com.au/books?
"If a baptised person deliberately denies or doubts a dogma properly so-called, he is guilty of the sin of heresy (Codex Iuris Canonici 1325, Par. 2),
and automatically becomes subject to the punishment of excommunication (Codex Iuris Canonici 2314, Par. I).



IF any Catholic "doubts or denies" any bit of that church's dogma, they are in BIG doggie-doodles.
 
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Roman Catholic Salvation and Justification
https://books.google.com.au/books?
"If a baptised person deliberately denies or doubts a dogma properly so-called, he is guilty of the sin of heresy (Codex Iuris Canonici 1325, Par. 2),
and automatically becomes subject to the punishment of excommunication (Codex Iuris Canonici 2314, Par. I).



IF any Catholic "doubts or denies" any bit of that church's dogma, they are in BIG doggie-doodles.
OK. And this relates to the OP ... how?
 

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Are you serious ?

Whose president fondly talked about one world government in the 90s ? Iran is one of three countries that refuses to take on a Rothschild central bank. The central bank is the pillar of the one world government. They are the enemies of the one world government. The other two countries are North Korea and Cuba.

Iran will likely be the center of the one world government that is coming, though it wouldn't surprise me at all if they build the world's capitol at Babylon. I won't be here to see it, of course, but it still wouldn't surprise me.

Egg on the faces of Christians who have been preaching for years that the false religion led by the false prophet is Catholicism. It is Islam, and it will become the "one world religion" because Allah is Satan's minion.
 
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Are you serious ?

Whose president fondly talked about one world government in the 90s ? Iran is one of three countries that refuses to take on a Rothschild central bank. The central bank is the pillar of the one world government. They are the enemies of the one world government. The other two countries are North Korea and Cuba.
Perhaps a good Bible study of the Revelation, Daniel, and apocalyptic passages among the major prophets would be in order here.

If you are truly a child of God and desirous of knowing His plan, you should undertake one at your convenience.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion.

You speak of NWO. The push for NWO is coming out of the US.

Christianity and Islam are two ideologies that stand in the way of the NWO. So they are going after Islam outside the US borders and attacking Christianity inside US borders. Are you able to see that ?



Perhaps a good Bible study of the Revelation, Daniel, and apocalyptic passages among the major prophets would be in order here.

If you are truly a child of God and desirous of knowing His plan, you should undertake one at your convenience.
 
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As a supposed European I beg to differ on a few points . Members of the European Union are not mainly Muslim. There are only large minorities in Europe including the UK. Turkey is not in the European Union but has been trying to join for a number of years. I believe that Turkey is the centre of the Antichrist Empire. Which will be a revived form of the Ottoman Empire. That
Empire covered most of the Middle East, including Greece, Iran Syria and Iraq. In fact it covered the Eastern territory of the Roman Empire and every territory contained in the Empires mentioned in Daniel. It also included land now occupied by Israel.
 
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14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness,


this woman is the church,not a country but the bride to be, not physical Isreal.
No the woman is Israel, not the church !!!
 
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No the woman is Israel, not the church !!!
The church did not give birth to the Lord Jesus (Revelation 11:13), but Israel home of the Jews gave birth to our Lord.
 
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The church did not give birth to the Lord Jesus (Revelation 11:13), but Israel home of the Jews gave birth to our Lord.

12:13..................................
 
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Lol. The armsrace most european powers were involved in (including Britain) CAUSED WWI, and the US played no major role in that war. Britain's pacifism and the American isolationism, their unwillingness to act against Germany and Japan, was one of the CAUSES of WWII.

American Jew Benjamin Freeman in 1961 gives an excellent historical review of how the American people were conned into participating in both wars:


[video=youtube;HhFRGDyX48c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c[/video]