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I like the version the navy seal got in trouble for writing in his book about seal team six where bin laden got up out of bed walked up to an unloaded ak47 by the door of his bedroom and opened it and looked out to see what the noise was all about. Go figure worlds most wanted man,in his pajamas,with his youngest wife,in a compound with no escape rout,asleep,,,,is waken by black-hawk helicopters,,,,walks over to the door hearing them land,doesn't think he needs to load a gun,,opens it and looks out thinking,,,,,"why all the noise?,,why don't they just drop off the supplies and leave like last week?",,,then game over,,,,
If this wasn't so serious we could enjoy the buffoonery:
Biden’s Bold Prediction: Iraq Is “Gonna Be One Of The Great Achievements Of This Administration”… | Weasel Zippers
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One problem.
Democrats had control of both House and Senate from 1987 to 1989.
100th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As you can see from below, unemployment went below 6% for the first time in Reagan's presidency in 1987.
That means if a democratic congress is to blame for high unemployment, then it's to blame for "low" too.
If a president isn't to blame for high unemployment, then he isn't to "blame" for low either.
Which implies the "Reagan recovery" had nothing to do with Reagan, and everything to do with a Democratic congress.
You can't insinuate Reagan from blame by pointing to congress, then take away the insulation and give him credit for the recovery.
Democrats had control of both House and Senate from 1987 to 1989.
100th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As you can see from below, unemployment went below 6% for the first time in Reagan's presidency in 1987.
That means if a democratic congress is to blame for high unemployment, then it's to blame for "low" too.
If a president isn't to blame for high unemployment, then he isn't to "blame" for low either.
Which implies the "Reagan recovery" had nothing to do with Reagan, and everything to do with a Democratic congress.
You can't insinuate Reagan from blame by pointing to congress, then take away the insulation and give him credit for the recovery.
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And the Clintons, well... that sordid tale begins long before ADFA, Whitewater, Tyson Foods, Vince Foster, Travelgate, etc... etc... etc...
Bill Clinton was stating in early 1990's interviews that he'd known about the "Shadow-government" in his youth and been enthusiastic to get an entrance into the "Inner Circle." He got his wish when the "President-maker" David Rockefeller met him in the mid 80's in Arkansas to prepare him for what was to come. It's amazing that two people can be involved in so much corruption in a single lifetime and slide their away out of the consequences like a grease covered cottonmouth but the Clintons have managed it. The Feds are still looking into the secret 'street teams.'
Bill Clinton was stating in early 1990's interviews that he'd known about the "Shadow-government" in his youth and been enthusiastic to get an entrance into the "Inner Circle." He got his wish when the "President-maker" David Rockefeller met him in the mid 80's in Arkansas to prepare him for what was to come. It's amazing that two people can be involved in so much corruption in a single lifetime and slide their away out of the consequences like a grease covered cottonmouth but the Clintons have managed it. The Feds are still looking into the secret 'street teams.'
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I think you should read this article 1Still_Waters: Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Facts And Figures - Forbes
problem is is was going down long before the D took over. It was split houses beforehand thus R had a bit more control via one part of the house and president.
You are still missing the bigger cause/effect. have to also look at the actions of said congress.. some actions produce slow results others are quick.. Now lets take the tail end of the Bush term.. things were going down due to NAFTA (something enacted in 1994 it took over a decade for the effect to be seen) then add in the democrats stupidity from 2007-on it took a bad situation and made it disastrous so much so that it will take generations to fix the damage. The highest unemployment rates always seem to happen during or right after full democrat control. and takes a lot of time to rebuild.
You also have to look what what side pushes what.. Democrats push socialism and they have for a long long time now. So when you look at the overall pattern, democrats always destroy, Republicans usually build.
You are still missing the bigger cause/effect. have to also look at the actions of said congress.. some actions produce slow results others are quick.. Now lets take the tail end of the Bush term.. things were going down due to NAFTA (something enacted in 1994 it took over a decade for the effect to be seen) then add in the democrats stupidity from 2007-on it took a bad situation and made it disastrous so much so that it will take generations to fix the damage. The highest unemployment rates always seem to happen during or right after full democrat control. and takes a lot of time to rebuild.
You also have to look what what side pushes what.. Democrats push socialism and they have for a long long time now. So when you look at the overall pattern, democrats always destroy, Republicans usually build.
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If you're going to give credit for the lower unemployment to the fact that there was an R-pres and a split R-D congress before that, then you have to credit the decrease in unemployment under Obama to the D-pres and R-D congress.
As you can see it starts ticking down from 8-ish% towards the 6%s from 2011-2014
And actually as you can see, the congress before that was D-D. So you have a D-D-D.
111th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
*shrieks*
Just for the fun of it, compare the Reagan unemployment drop rate to the Obama.
As you can see it starts ticking down from 8-ish% towards the 6%s from 2011-2014
And actually as you can see, the congress before that was D-D. So you have a D-D-D.
111th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
*shrieks*
Just for the fun of it, compare the Reagan unemployment drop rate to the Obama.
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Reagan trumps Obama on social policy.
Reagan gave a great cultural firewall against drug use, against pro-choice, and against the LGBTQ agenda.
Under Obama it's as if he's trying to create a firewall against EVERYTHING that's good and right.
He glorifies drug use, aggressively promotes abortion, and praises every sinful sexual deviancy under the sun.
When I put all of the pieces together, social policy, economic policy, and foreign policy, Reagan wins.
Reagan gave a great cultural firewall against drug use, against pro-choice, and against the LGBTQ agenda.
Under Obama it's as if he's trying to create a firewall against EVERYTHING that's good and right.
He glorifies drug use, aggressively promotes abortion, and praises every sinful sexual deviancy under the sun.
When I put all of the pieces together, social policy, economic policy, and foreign policy, Reagan wins.
IMHO:
I suspect that the USA is being judicially hardened in sin and folly. Having been blessed as no other nation in history, this country has turned its back on the Almighty, and scorned His wisdom. All this time, money, and lives, all the broken bodies, amputees, PTSD horror that our boys have suffered; will all be for naught. Geo Bush won the war in Iraq, and then stayed around for years as if we were the Messiah. I see Afghanistan taken over by Islamists (who believe & act on the Qur'an) when we are gone, if not before we are gone. Now the Obama got an 8 year term, but the war continues.
The USA has gone insane and has folly for wisdom.
Geo Bush I, being from the WWII era, knew how to fight a war: get in, whip 'em, and get out. But this nation of baby-murderers and sodomites seems to think it is the Messiah.
What can we now do but fearlessly stick the Bible in the noses of the lost, hoping the Lord will thus work to develop faith in them, that and pray for the nation. How shall we pray? Should we like Elijah call down a famine on the nation? Can the USA be brought to a 3rd Great Awakening without being brought to its knees?
I suspect that the USA is being judicially hardened in sin and folly. Having been blessed as no other nation in history, this country has turned its back on the Almighty, and scorned His wisdom. All this time, money, and lives, all the broken bodies, amputees, PTSD horror that our boys have suffered; will all be for naught. Geo Bush won the war in Iraq, and then stayed around for years as if we were the Messiah. I see Afghanistan taken over by Islamists (who believe & act on the Qur'an) when we are gone, if not before we are gone. Now the Obama got an 8 year term, but the war continues.
The USA has gone insane and has folly for wisdom.
Geo Bush I, being from the WWII era, knew how to fight a war: get in, whip 'em, and get out. But this nation of baby-murderers and sodomites seems to think it is the Messiah.
What can we now do but fearlessly stick the Bible in the noses of the lost, hoping the Lord will thus work to develop faith in them, that and pray for the nation. How shall we pray? Should we like Elijah call down a famine on the nation? Can the USA be brought to a 3rd Great Awakening without being brought to its knees?
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Another problem is that it's not apples and apples because real wages under the Reagan recovery were soaring while under Obama they actually decreased. It's not a recovery if everyone actually gets poorer except for a handful at the top.
Under Reagan, blue collar and white collar middle class expansion. Under Obama, blue collar and white collar middle class contraction. That's significant. Apples and oranges.
In other words, the vast majority of Americans financial worth and real income decreased in the "paper recovery" under Obama despite being fueled by massive deficit stimulus spending never before seen in the history of mankind on this planet.
Under Reagan, blue collar and white collar middle class expansion. Under Obama, blue collar and white collar middle class contraction. That's significant. Apples and oranges.
In other words, the vast majority of Americans financial worth and real income decreased in the "paper recovery" under Obama despite being fueled by massive deficit stimulus spending never before seen in the history of mankind on this planet.
How is Reagan even applicable to this discussion? He's not, Reagan is dead.
Even Obama is only minorly involved in this topic. It was agreed before Obama and during Obama's first term that America would pull out of Iraq. Obama even offered to leave behind a contingent, the Iraq Government said no.
All Obama can do is give aid or air support or choose not to.
The Democrats and Republicans mean absolutely nothing. Right now a decision must be made. Will we militarily support the government of Iraq that we installed, or will we not?
Even Obama is only minorly involved in this topic. It was agreed before Obama and during Obama's first term that America would pull out of Iraq. Obama even offered to leave behind a contingent, the Iraq Government said no.
All Obama can do is give aid or air support or choose not to.
The Democrats and Republicans mean absolutely nothing. Right now a decision must be made. Will we militarily support the government of Iraq that we installed, or will we not?
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The real unemployment rate is somewhere in the neighborhood of 12%. They are keeping more than one set of books to keep people stupid.
Chart: The real unemployment rate?
Chart: The real unemployment rate?
Then in that case I still maintain that Reagan is dead and that even before Obama was President we had the framework for the agreement to withdraw from Iraq. President Obama even offered to leave a contingent force behind. The Iraq Government declined the offer.
Therefore President Obama's policy is justifiable. Now the Iraq government asks President Obama for aid support and possibility of air support. It is clear the Iraq Government does not want us to send in another land force. Therefore Obama's hands are tied among four choices: Send aid, send air support, do both, or do neither.
I'd put more fault on the Iraq Government in this case than on President Obama. He even offered to give them a contingent force of American soldiers and they themselves declined. Perhaps it is their destiny to be overthrown. We shall watch therefore.
Therefore President Obama's policy is justifiable. Now the Iraq government asks President Obama for aid support and possibility of air support. It is clear the Iraq Government does not want us to send in another land force. Therefore Obama's hands are tied among four choices: Send aid, send air support, do both, or do neither.
I'd put more fault on the Iraq Government in this case than on President Obama. He even offered to give them a contingent force of American soldiers and they themselves declined. Perhaps it is their destiny to be overthrown. We shall watch therefore.