Is this the end of the US as a superpower?
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It is all a scare tactic which they will start driving the world together for fear of a nuclear war and that they have to cooperate with each other to prevent wars and disasters.
It makes me believe that WW1 and WW2 was all a set up.
And I believe this is a set up also with Nations working together but does not want the world to know that.
After WW1 they set up League of Nations to get the world cooperating with each other for peace.
After WW2 they set up United Nations to get the world cooperating with each other for peace.
I believe this is another scare tactic to get the world to cooperate with each other for peace.
I believe Russia and America are actually working together which they want a one world government now.
I believe that a war between Islam and the world will cause the world to embrace the antichrist, New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth.
Russia will play the bad guy and does not care if he is shunned for he wants a one world government in which al will be cleared concerning Russia for they will then be cooperating with the world.
It makes me believe that WW1 and WW2 was all a set up.
And I believe this is a set up also with Nations working together but does not want the world to know that.
After WW1 they set up League of Nations to get the world cooperating with each other for peace.
After WW2 they set up United Nations to get the world cooperating with each other for peace.
I believe this is another scare tactic to get the world to cooperate with each other for peace.
I believe Russia and America are actually working together which they want a one world government now.
I believe that a war between Islam and the world will cause the world to embrace the antichrist, New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth.
Russia will play the bad guy and does not care if he is shunned for he wants a one world government in which al will be cleared concerning Russia for they will then be cooperating with the world.
Contrary to what our enemies hope, America is not going to be defeated as a superpower.
America didn't keep its head in the sand during the start of WW2 either. Citizens banded together in a support effort after our government, whom we couldn't control even then apparently, and our president signed a non-aggression pact with AH.
Our president knew. He decided to let it happen and promised our forces wouldn't intervene. The Pope knew too. And not one Nazi Catholic was excommunicated.
There's a lot of evil in the world. And a lot of collaborators too. Unfortunately, America seems to be the one target for the greatest hate and disrespect by those who not surprisingly don't live here. God Blesses America! Especially as our Godless enemies wish we'd fall. Amen!
America didn't keep its head in the sand during the start of WW2 either. Citizens banded together in a support effort after our government, whom we couldn't control even then apparently, and our president signed a non-aggression pact with AH.
Our president knew. He decided to let it happen and promised our forces wouldn't intervene. The Pope knew too. And not one Nazi Catholic was excommunicated.
There's a lot of evil in the world. And a lot of collaborators too. Unfortunately, America seems to be the one target for the greatest hate and disrespect by those who not surprisingly don't live here. God Blesses America! Especially as our Godless enemies wish we'd fall. Amen!
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We haven't.
There are those who think if America were a Theocratic Christian government nation we'd prove we were His. That's simply not the case and wasn't the intent when our nation was founded. Our forefathers and mothers left a nation wherein church and state were one for a reason. A very good one.
There are those who think if America were a Theocratic Christian government nation we'd prove we were His. That's simply not the case and wasn't the intent when our nation was founded. Our forefathers and mothers left a nation wherein church and state were one for a reason. A very good one.
I do not equate myself with the USA. I will be judged for what I have done, Pelosi will be judged for what she has done, Biden for what he has done, etc. 350 million Americans, we do not all received the same judgement.
That said legalizing abortion, using tax dollars to pay for abortion, and the list goes on and on and on. These things are not just one person but are part of the US government system.
That said legalizing abortion, using tax dollars to pay for abortion, and the list goes on and on and on. These things are not just one person but are part of the US government system.
Abortion always seems to be the go-to in such discussions. There are plenty of things our tax dollars fund that are in opposition to Christian values.
That said, when every person on earth will be judged be they Christian or otherwise, one thing we need to bear in mind I think is that all that are put in leadership over us are put there by God and his will. And we're told we are to obey our leaders for that reason. Note there isn't anything said about respecting them.
Therefore, any policy in place, all the horrific people on the Left and the RINO's on the Right side of the aisle in Congress are of God's choosing and will.
Something to think about.
That said, when every person on earth will be judged be they Christian or otherwise, one thing we need to bear in mind I think is that all that are put in leadership over us are put there by God and his will. And we're told we are to obey our leaders for that reason. Note there isn't anything said about respecting them.
Therefore, any policy in place, all the horrific people on the Left and the RINO's on the Right side of the aisle in Congress are of God's choosing and will.
Something to think about.
I don't believe America must do any such thing.
Prophecy in the Bible is arbitrary. Not specific. One can attribute any contemporary situation to what is described in broad terms in prophetic terms.
The same thing happened with Nostradamus quatrains. The excuse used for his vague indecipherable ramblings , not equating Biblical prophecy to that just to cut off any rebuttal in that form, was he was making his visions appear imprecise in order to avoid prosecution by the Inquisition.
However, that he was publishing such things in the first place would have garnered the attention of the Inquisition.
Nostradamus was under the protection of the crown, specifically the French queen Katherine de Medici. He was in no danger.
He made his fortune scaring people who needed to know what the future held so they could prepare. Not much has changed today. People look at contemporary events now and think they must be following some roadmap predetermined by God. If that is the case the school of thought that insists God has not predetermined all things is stopped in its tracks.
Not that the scriptures that inform us God has done just that shouldn't have afforded that stoppage long before.
Everything in God's own time. Prophecy tells us what God has planned for this world and its people.
Prophecy in the Bible is arbitrary. Not specific. One can attribute any contemporary situation to what is described in broad terms in prophetic terms.
The same thing happened with Nostradamus quatrains. The excuse used for his vague indecipherable ramblings , not equating Biblical prophecy to that just to cut off any rebuttal in that form, was he was making his visions appear imprecise in order to avoid prosecution by the Inquisition.
However, that he was publishing such things in the first place would have garnered the attention of the Inquisition.
Nostradamus was under the protection of the crown, specifically the French queen Katherine de Medici. He was in no danger.
He made his fortune scaring people who needed to know what the future held so they could prepare. Not much has changed today. People look at contemporary events now and think they must be following some roadmap predetermined by God. If that is the case the school of thought that insists God has not predetermined all things is stopped in its tracks.
Not that the scriptures that inform us God has done just that shouldn't have afforded that stoppage long before.
Everything in God's own time. Prophecy tells us what God has planned for this world and its people.
God has not predetermined all things, but He knows all things and how they will unfold. God created time and is outside of it. It's like a movie that He can see from beginning to end. Revelation says eventually God will do away with time itself. He is the Alpha and the Omega.
Human free will can - and does - coexist right alongside the omniscience of God.
Human free will can - and does - coexist right alongside the omniscience of God.
What do people think Bible prophecy is? God's predetermination of the future.
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And has made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
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Use to be Made of the Doctrine of Providence.
... 4. As regards future events, Solomon easily reconciles human ... to provide for ourselves,
and arrange all our affairs. ... our life, has at the same time entrusted us ...
/.../calvin/the institutes of the christian religion/chapter 17 use to be.htm
"This Thing is from Me"
... and power have been conspicuous from the time when this ... also, dear friends, that
God is in events which are ... to believe without hesitation, God was in it all. ...
/.../spurgeon/spurgeons sermons volume 42 1896/this thing is from me.htm
The Resurrection of Christ; his Last Interview with his Disciples ...
... again the kingdom to Israel?" Is the time now come ... were predetermined by God, as
they are all brought to ... he only knows the order and series of events; and that ...
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Letter clxvi. (AD 415. )
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arrangement of all its parts ... man's life on earth continues for a time, which is ...
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Absurdity of the Doctrine of the Transmigration of Souls.
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a time, even throughout ... drunk, can obliterate the memory of all the deeds ...
/.../irenaeus/against heresies/chapter xxxiii absurdity of the doctrine.htm
Acts III
... commentators generally, that the last two events are contemplated ... extend its application
to those of all nations who should, at any period of time, turn from ...
/.../mcgarvey/a commentary on acts of the apostles/acts iii.htm
The Doom of the Antichrist
... the earth will witness the most awful events ever chronicled ... her: yet a little while,
and the time of her ... The Antichrist is but the Lord's instrument after all. ...
//christianbookshelf.org/pink/the antichrist/the doom of the antichrist.htm
Preface to the First Edition.
... give a full record of even the outward events in that ... the Jews, to Palestine, and
to that time, but - of which history has given the evidence - to all men and ...
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I'm just observing that you don't understand God's sovereignty.
Look at the book of Jonah. God told Nineveh through Jonah that they were going to be destroyed. They repented from the least to the greatest and God spared them for a time.
God IS sovereign. He can bring things about even IF human free will opposes Him. But He does give us free will. We are not puppets. We are not automatons.
We are made in God's image, and actually I think free will is a part of that.
I don't want to get into the whole free will versus sovereignty thing here. It's a tired debate, and sound doctrine makes it clear that both coexist perfectly.
Look at the book of Jonah. God told Nineveh through Jonah that they were going to be destroyed. They repented from the least to the greatest and God spared them for a time.
God IS sovereign. He can bring things about even IF human free will opposes Him. But He does give us free will. We are not puppets. We are not automatons.
We are made in God's image, and actually I think free will is a part of that.
I don't want to get into the whole free will versus sovereignty thing here. It's a tired debate, and sound doctrine makes it clear that both coexist perfectly.
I'm observing that you don't understand the meaning of Sovereignty.
God predestines all things according to his will and plan....but man has the free will to exercise what by free choice can overcome God's will and plan? According to you.
Foreordain v. t.) To appoint beforehand; to predetermine; to predestinate; to preordain.
Even when God says just the opposite? Fore-Ordained: https://biblehub.com/topical/f/fore-ordained.htm
OK.
God predestines all things according to his will and plan....but man has the free will to exercise what by free choice can overcome God's will and plan? According to you.
Foreordain v. t.) To appoint beforehand; to predetermine; to predestinate; to preordain.
Even when God says just the opposite? Fore-Ordained: https://biblehub.com/topical/f/fore-ordained.htm
OK.
I can prove you wrong by the Scriptures.
Mat_23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
2Pe_3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
There are other passages I could cite as well but these are enough to make the point. Matthew 23 - God WOULD HAVE gathered the people of Jerusalem, but they WOULD NOT allow it.
2 Peter 3:9 - God IS NOT WILLING that any should perish, but the Bible makes it clear that MUCH of humanity will perish:
Mat_7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
None of this detracts from God's sovereignty one whit. God has simply allowed us free will according to His purposes. Sure, He COULD overrule free will at any time. And He actually will do so one day; the Bible says that EVERY KNEE WILL BOW to Christ, willing or unwilling, when He finally comes into His own as conquering King.
But for now, this Earth realm is an arena of choice and consequence, and IT IS SO because of the sovereignty of God, not in spite of it.
Mat_23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
2Pe_3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
There are other passages I could cite as well but these are enough to make the point. Matthew 23 - God WOULD HAVE gathered the people of Jerusalem, but they WOULD NOT allow it.
2 Peter 3:9 - God IS NOT WILLING that any should perish, but the Bible makes it clear that MUCH of humanity will perish:
Mat_7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
None of this detracts from God's sovereignty one whit. God has simply allowed us free will according to His purposes. Sure, He COULD overrule free will at any time. And He actually will do so one day; the Bible says that EVERY KNEE WILL BOW to Christ, willing or unwilling, when He finally comes into His own as conquering King.
But for now, this Earth realm is an arena of choice and consequence, and IT IS SO because of the sovereignty of God, not in spite of it.