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You're not as smart as I thought you were. And exposed.
reading your ludicrous article from:
IM NIN'ALU:
"EVEN IF THERE BE NO MERCY LEFT IN THE WORLD,
THE GATES OF HEAVEN WILL NEVER BE BARRED"
Rabbi Shalom Shabazi
A tribute to the memory of Ofra Haza,
the most beautiful voice of all times,
the brightest shining star of Israel,
who on 17 Adar I 5760 passed through the gates of Heaven
This site regards to the origin of the peoples beginning with the ancient cultures and civilizations, and of the People of Israel and her uniqueness among the nations - "Goyim" -, taking account of the most ancient genealogies and the peoples that trace back their origins to them, as well as their appearance and disappearance in history.
ImNin'alu's Book
....which cites the fraud Walid Shoebat?
anyways.....
at least your source doesn't claim to have much archaeological or scientific backup.
J
LOL.....actually, it's more orthodox Jews that hate the State of Israel because that is all it is, a state. They believe that God will restore Israel and not the man made efforts (and debauchery) that led to 1948.
Also, people spend so much time on who is inhabiting the land that they forget that the Bible always states The House of Israel. The House of Israel is in no way synonymous with Jew/Religious Jew/Ethnic Jew/etc.
Also, people spend so much time on who is inhabiting the land that they forget that the Bible always states The House of Israel. The House of Israel is in no way synonymous with Jew/Religious Jew/Ethnic Jew/etc.
You seem to be unaware of the fact that contemporary "Jews" are not of the same ancestry as those in the Bible narrative. Read The Invention of the Jewish People by Israeli professor Shlomo Sand, The Thirteenth Tribe, by Arthur Koestler (Jewish), and the 2012 Jewish DNA study (Google on Genome evolution of Jewish Population Johns Hopkins), a study led by Jewish geneticist Dr. Eran Elhaik. These and other books and DNA studies reveal that most contemporary Jews, being of Ashkenazi-Khazar ancestry--are not Israelites. Their ancestors originated, not in Palestine, but in the area Khazaria, now called Turkey. On the word Jew. It is incorrect to use this term while not stating if you are speaking of those in the first century (Bible narrative), or in the vernacular (2000 years later), they are not one and the same people.
Please read the book of Acts wherein are "thousands of Jews" (18:28; 21:20) described as the first Christians. These were the Israelites who, as described in Acts 11:26, "where called Christians first in Antioch." This was in fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy (62:2; 65:15) that Israel, in the New Covenant era would have "a new name...another name." This is why today's millions of descendants of those "thousands of Jews" are known as "Christians." Are you one of them?
P.S., The religious establishment does not want us to know this.
Please read the book of Acts wherein are "thousands of Jews" (18:28; 21:20) described as the first Christians. These were the Israelites who, as described in Acts 11:26, "where called Christians first in Antioch." This was in fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy (62:2; 65:15) that Israel, in the New Covenant era would have "a new name...another name." This is why today's millions of descendants of those "thousands of Jews" are known as "Christians." Are you one of them?
P.S., The religious establishment does not want us to know this.
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actually this theory has been thoroughly debunked...even the leading experts on ancient khazaria reject it...
elhaik's study in particular had a fatal flaw that pretty much turns his entire argument upside down...the peoples he chose to use in his study as representative 'caucasus' populations actually have a closer historical affinity to the ancient middle east than to the caucasus region...
elhaik hasn't taken the criticism very well...he has resorted to calling his critics 'liars' and 'frauds' and comparing them with the nazis...
practically all other studies to date continue to show that the modern jewish people have an ancient middle eastern origin...including a study from just last year conducted by the albert einstein college of medicine and published in the proceedings of the national academy of sciences...
the khazar empire did mostly convert to judaism...but their contribution to the modern jewish gene pool is actually fairly low...usually estimated at around 12% by geneticists...significant enough to be interesting from a genetic and historical persepctive...but nowhere near enough to validate the claim that most modern day jews are khazars 'pretending to be jews'
elhaik's study in particular had a fatal flaw that pretty much turns his entire argument upside down...the peoples he chose to use in his study as representative 'caucasus' populations actually have a closer historical affinity to the ancient middle east than to the caucasus region...
elhaik hasn't taken the criticism very well...he has resorted to calling his critics 'liars' and 'frauds' and comparing them with the nazis...
practically all other studies to date continue to show that the modern jewish people have an ancient middle eastern origin...including a study from just last year conducted by the albert einstein college of medicine and published in the proceedings of the national academy of sciences...
the khazar empire did mostly convert to judaism...but their contribution to the modern jewish gene pool is actually fairly low...usually estimated at around 12% by geneticists...significant enough to be interesting from a genetic and historical persepctive...but nowhere near enough to validate the claim that most modern day jews are khazars 'pretending to be jews'
R
zone no doubt wants to start over with her cultish indoctrination script as if this hasn't been already addressed several times before...
she has never been able to prove her claim that 'jews know it's true'...or her other favorite claim that this notion has been accepted as fact by modern geneticists...
the reality is that this claim has not been taken seriously by hardly anyone since the rise of modern genetics...because it is really just a throwback to nineteenth century racial nonsense...
and her statement about being 'bombarded as a nazi antisemite' is ironic given that the only geneticist who agrees with her has accused his critics of having 'common ground with the nazism ideology'
she has never been able to prove her claim that 'jews know it's true'...or her other favorite claim that this notion has been accepted as fact by modern geneticists...
the reality is that this claim has not been taken seriously by hardly anyone since the rise of modern genetics...because it is really just a throwback to nineteenth century racial nonsense...
and her statement about being 'bombarded as a nazi antisemite' is ironic given that the only geneticist who agrees with her has accused his critics of having 'common ground with the nazism ideology'
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But you have fallen for a lie. Maybe it is time to quote one of PeteWaldo's post on this subject that does an extremely good job of explaining why we should stand with Israel against islam.
The one great God of the scriptures of Jews and Christians assigned the name to the land that is Israel. That name is also confirmed in the Gospel.
Matthew 2:20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life. 21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel.
Matthew 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say to you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man shall have come.
The Old Testament uses the name "Palestine" to refer to a small area of southwestern coast within Israel, that had been occupied by a people called the Philistines, but the Philistines vanished thousands of years ago. The New Testament never uses the term Palestine. So how did the land that God named Israel, come to be known by some folks in the world today, by a different name?
Thomas S. McCall, Th.D. of Zola Levitt's ministry wrote:
"One of the guides we use in our tours to Israel is Zvi Rivai, an Israeli Messianic believer, who has done considerable research on this subject. Zvi informs us that before 135 A.D., the Romans used the terms Judea and Galilee to refer to the Land of Israel. When Titus destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D., the Roman government struck a coin with the phrase “Judea Capta,” meaning Judea has been captured. The term Palestine was never used in the early Roman designations.
It was not until the Romans crushed the second Jewish revolt against Rome in 135 A.D. under Bar Kochba that Emperor Hadrian applied the term Palestine to the Land of Israel. Hadrian, like many dictators since his time realized the propaganda power of terms and symbols. He replaced the shrines of the Jewish Temple and the Sepulchre of Christ in Jerusalem with temples to pagan deities. He changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitalina, and changed the name of Israel and Judea to Palestine. Hadrian’s selection of Palestine was purposeful, not accidental. He took the name of the ancient enemies of Israel, the Philistines, Latinized it to Palestine, and applied it to the Land of Israel. He hoped to erase the name Israel from all memory. Thus, the term Palestine as applied to the Land of Israel was invented by the inveterate enemy of the Bible and the Jewish people, Emperor Hadrian."
So assigning of the name "Palestine" to Israel was done by a Godless 2nd century Roman ruler in an effort to insult Jews and erase Israel.
The British government may also shoulder much of the responsibility for popularization of the term in the 20th century, as well as the resulting problems that resulted from their meddling in the area. From "THE ARABS IN THE HOLY LAND - NATIVES OR ALIENS?"
Think-Israel
"Before the beginning of the 20th century, there were practically no Muslim Arabs in the Holy Land. In 1695 there was not a single Muslim Arab in Gaza, Nazareth, and Um-El-Phachem. All Arabs there were Christians. By contrast, the Jews, despite 2000 years of persecution and forced conversions by various conquerors, have throughout most of history been the majority population in the Holy Land. In Jerusalem Jews were always the largest demographic group [1][2], except for periods when conquerors specifically threw them out and prevented them from returning."
Even more recently, as Walid Shoebat put voice to perhaps millions of so-called "Palestinians" in the world today, that dropped their national identity to proclaim themselves "Palestinians":
"One day during the 1960s I went to bed a Jordanian Muslim, and when I woke up the next morning, I was informed that I was now a Palestinian Muslim, and that I was no longer a Jordanian Muslim."
It isn't hard to imagine that the enemy of God, put the terms "Palestine" and "Palestinians" as popularized in the the world today, not only on the lips of a Godless Roman governor, but in the largely Godless secular media, the U.N. and such today, in order to obscure the true identities of Israeli citizens, which has served to advance the Islamic conquest of Israel, and subjugation of Israeli Jews, Christians and non-Muslim Arabs to the followers of the false prophet Muhammad.
Based on the false impression that the popular media has created, a picture has been painted of basically two groups in conflict in Israel today. Israeli Jews VS so-called Palestinians.
Perhaps the group that has been most disenfranchised, as a result of this false impression, is Israeli non-Muslim Arabs. Here's a Wikipedia article on secular Israeli Arabs:
Wikipedia on secular Israeli Arabs: "In contrast, a poll of 507 Arab-Israelis conducted by the Israeli Democracy Institute in 2007 found that 75 percent profess support for Israel's status as a Jewish and democratic state which guarantees equal rights for minorities. Israeli Arab support for a constitution in general was 88 percent.[31]"
When the media and the U.N. pressed the Israelis to abandon Gaza, and end the protections formerly offered by the Israeli Jewish State as enjoyed by Israeli citizens there, in exchange for yet another ridiculous and false promises of peace (since Muhammad's followers are commanded to subjugate all people in the world to themselves), it wouldn't have required rocket science to calculate the expected result of a "democracy" in which the vast majority of voters are followers of the false prophet Muhammad:
"Christians can only continue living safely in the Gaza Strip if they accept Islamic law, including a ban on alcohol and on women roaming publicly without proper head coverings, an Islamist militant leader in Gaza told WND in an exclusive interview."
"This missionary activity is endangering the entire Christian community in Gaza,"
"His comments come after gunmen on Sunday attacked Gaza's Latin Church and adjacent Rosary Sisters School, reportedly destroying crosses, bibles, pictures of Jesus and furniture and equipment. The attackers also stole a number of computers."
Christians warned: Accept Islamic law
"'Arab Spring' becoming Nightmare For Christians":
"Christians can In the case of Ayyad, who managed the only Christian bookstore in Gaza, his body was discovered riddled with gunshot and stab wounds."
"The witnesses said they saw three armed men, two of whom were wearing masks, beat Ayyad repeatedly with clubs and the butts of their guns while they accused him of attempting to spread Christianity in Gaza. The witnesses said that after sustaining the beating, Ayyad was shot by all three men."
‘Arab Spring’ becoming nightmare for Christians
And of course entire industries like the Gush Katif greenhouses in Gaza - that Jews had developed along with the rest of Gaza from relatively nothing over the last half of the 20th century - that had provided 3500 high tec greenhouse jobs, producing a hundred and fifty million dollars worth of produce a year, were ransacked, looted and gutted and by the so-called "Palestinians", when they took control of Gaza. Thus today those 3500 jobs have been reduced to about 500 people scratching in the dirt as farm workers. This, while "Palestinians" largely sit around and wait for delivery of western welfare. But what happens to money that naive westerners send for "relief" to the so-called Palestinians? It finances terrorism.
"Finally, a Palestinian 'Charity' Tells The Truth" By Debbie Schlussel
"A Gaza charity headed by the interior minister of Hamas yesterday offered $1.4 million to any Arab citizen of Israel who abducts an Israeli soldier."
When we use the name that God assigned to the land, and apply it to the major groups in Israel today, rather than the false impression created by those of the world that reject that name, we find clarity. The perpetrators of the violence being Israeli Muslims VS Israeli Jews, Israeli Christians and Israeli non-Muslim Arabs, who are overwhelmingly in favor of the protection of freedom, liberty and right to self-determination provided by the democracy of the Israeli Jewish State. A country where Muslims also enjoy more freedom, than they do in any Islam controlled country on earth.
What Christian would want to suffer the dhimmitude of an Islamic state that Christians are only beginning to suffer in Gaza? What non-Muslim of any persuasion, would want to be subjected to the dhimmitude of a sharia law ruled, multiple wife and concubine beating, little girl circumcising (FGM or female genital mutilation), slave making and trading, Christian and Jews persecuting, church and synagogue burning, imperialistic conquering, Islamic slave state?
A member of this forum that apparently self-propagandizes with antichrist Islamic propaganda, balked at the above characterization in regard FGM. Indeed my initial youtube introduction to this barbaric practice, as well as the testimony of the author of "Infidel" from Somalia, had me laboring under the impression that the practice was limited to the backwaters of African villages. I later learned that a near unanimity of young Muslim women - in what the first half of the 20th century had been a very cosmopolitan Egypt - today suffer:
"In Egypt, at least 90 percent of women are believed to have undergone FGM [female genital mutilation]. In 2005, a report by UNICEF had claimed that 97 percent of Egyptian women aged 15-49 had undergone the operation. Here, the issue has been a source of controversy. A CNN broadcast from 1994, in which a 10-year-old girl in Egypt was shown being "operated upon" by an unskilled practitioner, caused a hostile reaction. Egypt sued CNN for $500 million for damaging its reputation, but the case was thrown out by courts.""
The Imam in the following video aptly illustrates, exactly how much Islamic hatred of Jews actually has to do with Israel:
Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
[video=youtube;XBnciAZDoL4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBnciAZDoL4[/video]
The same as the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem working hand in hand with Hitler, including an Islamic panzer division in Hitler's army, toward their mutual interest of genocide of Jews.
It should be no surprise that the name "Palestine" is used by 1/4 of mankind of the world today, that are compelled by THE false prophet Muhammad, to DISbelieve the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel:
Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
As for me, as member of the whole household of God in the kingdom of Jesus Christ, I'll continue to use the name that my great God YHWH assigned to the land of Israel in the Old Testament scriptures, as confirmed by the New Testament scriptures.
Matthew 2:20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life. 21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel.
Matthew 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say to you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man shall have come.
The Old Testament uses the name "Palestine" to refer to a small area of southwestern coast within Israel, that had been occupied by a people called the Philistines, but the Philistines vanished thousands of years ago. The New Testament never uses the term Palestine. So how did the land that God named Israel, come to be known by some folks in the world today, by a different name?
Thomas S. McCall, Th.D. of Zola Levitt's ministry wrote:
"One of the guides we use in our tours to Israel is Zvi Rivai, an Israeli Messianic believer, who has done considerable research on this subject. Zvi informs us that before 135 A.D., the Romans used the terms Judea and Galilee to refer to the Land of Israel. When Titus destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D., the Roman government struck a coin with the phrase “Judea Capta,” meaning Judea has been captured. The term Palestine was never used in the early Roman designations.
It was not until the Romans crushed the second Jewish revolt against Rome in 135 A.D. under Bar Kochba that Emperor Hadrian applied the term Palestine to the Land of Israel. Hadrian, like many dictators since his time realized the propaganda power of terms and symbols. He replaced the shrines of the Jewish Temple and the Sepulchre of Christ in Jerusalem with temples to pagan deities. He changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitalina, and changed the name of Israel and Judea to Palestine. Hadrian’s selection of Palestine was purposeful, not accidental. He took the name of the ancient enemies of Israel, the Philistines, Latinized it to Palestine, and applied it to the Land of Israel. He hoped to erase the name Israel from all memory. Thus, the term Palestine as applied to the Land of Israel was invented by the inveterate enemy of the Bible and the Jewish people, Emperor Hadrian."
So assigning of the name "Palestine" to Israel was done by a Godless 2nd century Roman ruler in an effort to insult Jews and erase Israel.
The British government may also shoulder much of the responsibility for popularization of the term in the 20th century, as well as the resulting problems that resulted from their meddling in the area. From "THE ARABS IN THE HOLY LAND - NATIVES OR ALIENS?"
Think-Israel
"Before the beginning of the 20th century, there were practically no Muslim Arabs in the Holy Land. In 1695 there was not a single Muslim Arab in Gaza, Nazareth, and Um-El-Phachem. All Arabs there were Christians. By contrast, the Jews, despite 2000 years of persecution and forced conversions by various conquerors, have throughout most of history been the majority population in the Holy Land. In Jerusalem Jews were always the largest demographic group [1][2], except for periods when conquerors specifically threw them out and prevented them from returning."
Even more recently, as Walid Shoebat put voice to perhaps millions of so-called "Palestinians" in the world today, that dropped their national identity to proclaim themselves "Palestinians":
"One day during the 1960s I went to bed a Jordanian Muslim, and when I woke up the next morning, I was informed that I was now a Palestinian Muslim, and that I was no longer a Jordanian Muslim."
It isn't hard to imagine that the enemy of God, put the terms "Palestine" and "Palestinians" as popularized in the the world today, not only on the lips of a Godless Roman governor, but in the largely Godless secular media, the U.N. and such today, in order to obscure the true identities of Israeli citizens, which has served to advance the Islamic conquest of Israel, and subjugation of Israeli Jews, Christians and non-Muslim Arabs to the followers of the false prophet Muhammad.
Based on the false impression that the popular media has created, a picture has been painted of basically two groups in conflict in Israel today. Israeli Jews VS so-called Palestinians.
Perhaps the group that has been most disenfranchised, as a result of this false impression, is Israeli non-Muslim Arabs. Here's a Wikipedia article on secular Israeli Arabs:
Wikipedia on secular Israeli Arabs: "In contrast, a poll of 507 Arab-Israelis conducted by the Israeli Democracy Institute in 2007 found that 75 percent profess support for Israel's status as a Jewish and democratic state which guarantees equal rights for minorities. Israeli Arab support for a constitution in general was 88 percent.[31]"
When the media and the U.N. pressed the Israelis to abandon Gaza, and end the protections formerly offered by the Israeli Jewish State as enjoyed by Israeli citizens there, in exchange for yet another ridiculous and false promises of peace (since Muhammad's followers are commanded to subjugate all people in the world to themselves), it wouldn't have required rocket science to calculate the expected result of a "democracy" in which the vast majority of voters are followers of the false prophet Muhammad:
"Christians can only continue living safely in the Gaza Strip if they accept Islamic law, including a ban on alcohol and on women roaming publicly without proper head coverings, an Islamist militant leader in Gaza told WND in an exclusive interview."
"This missionary activity is endangering the entire Christian community in Gaza,"
"His comments come after gunmen on Sunday attacked Gaza's Latin Church and adjacent Rosary Sisters School, reportedly destroying crosses, bibles, pictures of Jesus and furniture and equipment. The attackers also stole a number of computers."
Christians warned: Accept Islamic law
"'Arab Spring' becoming Nightmare For Christians":
"Christians can In the case of Ayyad, who managed the only Christian bookstore in Gaza, his body was discovered riddled with gunshot and stab wounds."
"The witnesses said they saw three armed men, two of whom were wearing masks, beat Ayyad repeatedly with clubs and the butts of their guns while they accused him of attempting to spread Christianity in Gaza. The witnesses said that after sustaining the beating, Ayyad was shot by all three men."
‘Arab Spring’ becoming nightmare for Christians
And of course entire industries like the Gush Katif greenhouses in Gaza - that Jews had developed along with the rest of Gaza from relatively nothing over the last half of the 20th century - that had provided 3500 high tec greenhouse jobs, producing a hundred and fifty million dollars worth of produce a year, were ransacked, looted and gutted and by the so-called "Palestinians", when they took control of Gaza. Thus today those 3500 jobs have been reduced to about 500 people scratching in the dirt as farm workers. This, while "Palestinians" largely sit around and wait for delivery of western welfare. But what happens to money that naive westerners send for "relief" to the so-called Palestinians? It finances terrorism.
"Finally, a Palestinian 'Charity' Tells The Truth" By Debbie Schlussel
"A Gaza charity headed by the interior minister of Hamas yesterday offered $1.4 million to any Arab citizen of Israel who abducts an Israeli soldier."
When we use the name that God assigned to the land, and apply it to the major groups in Israel today, rather than the false impression created by those of the world that reject that name, we find clarity. The perpetrators of the violence being Israeli Muslims VS Israeli Jews, Israeli Christians and Israeli non-Muslim Arabs, who are overwhelmingly in favor of the protection of freedom, liberty and right to self-determination provided by the democracy of the Israeli Jewish State. A country where Muslims also enjoy more freedom, than they do in any Islam controlled country on earth.
What Christian would want to suffer the dhimmitude of an Islamic state that Christians are only beginning to suffer in Gaza? What non-Muslim of any persuasion, would want to be subjected to the dhimmitude of a sharia law ruled, multiple wife and concubine beating, little girl circumcising (FGM or female genital mutilation), slave making and trading, Christian and Jews persecuting, church and synagogue burning, imperialistic conquering, Islamic slave state?
A member of this forum that apparently self-propagandizes with antichrist Islamic propaganda, balked at the above characterization in regard FGM. Indeed my initial youtube introduction to this barbaric practice, as well as the testimony of the author of "Infidel" from Somalia, had me laboring under the impression that the practice was limited to the backwaters of African villages. I later learned that a near unanimity of young Muslim women - in what the first half of the 20th century had been a very cosmopolitan Egypt - today suffer:
"In Egypt, at least 90 percent of women are believed to have undergone FGM [female genital mutilation]. In 2005, a report by UNICEF had claimed that 97 percent of Egyptian women aged 15-49 had undergone the operation. Here, the issue has been a source of controversy. A CNN broadcast from 1994, in which a 10-year-old girl in Egypt was shown being "operated upon" by an unskilled practitioner, caused a hostile reaction. Egypt sued CNN for $500 million for damaging its reputation, but the case was thrown out by courts.""
The Imam in the following video aptly illustrates, exactly how much Islamic hatred of Jews actually has to do with Israel:
Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
[video=youtube;XBnciAZDoL4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBnciAZDoL4[/video]
The same as the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem working hand in hand with Hitler, including an Islamic panzer division in Hitler's army, toward their mutual interest of genocide of Jews.
It should be no surprise that the name "Palestine" is used by 1/4 of mankind of the world today, that are compelled by THE false prophet Muhammad, to DISbelieve the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel:
Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
As for me, as member of the whole household of God in the kingdom of Jesus Christ, I'll continue to use the name that my great God YHWH assigned to the land of Israel in the Old Testament scriptures, as confirmed by the New Testament scriptures.
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I would be more then willing, but Drett is not interested. He has demonstrated multiple times that he prefers to follow the lying, thieving, murdering, child doing (per islams own writings) false prophet mohammad to perdition as an antichrist. That’s why he chooses to post articles that are for the most part against the west (Israel and U.S.) while totally ignoring anything about islamic aggression, despite the fact that islamic aggression is a world wide problem. How many innocent civilians were killed world wide by islamic aggression last year alone? Or how about the billions of innocent civilians that were slain as a result of 1400 years of islamic aggression as they attempt to force the world to submit to islam by use of the sword? Where is his outrage over that? Oh that's right he believes killing Jews and Christians who stand against islam is ok! So the only time he is outraged is when someone stands against jihadist that hide behind women and children! Yes our friend Drett is a true humanitarian! LOL NOT!
And the deceptive tactics begin. Sad to see you resort to such nonsense, I teach no such nonsense, but if you once again choose to resort to using false accusations I understand, I’ll keep you in my prayers!
Are you sure you want to try promoting that lie again? As I have said many times before from Adam until Christ’s return only those who are born again will see the kingdom of God. Regardless of ones position on the historical timeline (pre or post crucifixicion) it has always been faith (not adherence to law) that mattered.
1Co 10:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
I love ya zone and I will definitely keep you in my prayers!
And the deceptive tactics begin. Sad to see you resort to such nonsense, I teach no such nonsense, but if you once again choose to resort to using false accusations I understand, I’ll keep you in my prayers!
Are you sure you want to try promoting that lie again? As I have said many times before from Adam until Christ’s return only those who are born again will see the kingdom of God. Regardless of ones position on the historical timeline (pre or post crucifixicion) it has always been faith (not adherence to law) that mattered.
1Co 10:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
I love ya zone and I will definitely keep you in my prayers!
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