Israel Stands Apart

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doulos

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That's right, when someone cannot refute your argument, your logic and reason, they will resort to name calling.
That why Zone is so quick to resort to falsely accusing others of teaching dual covenant theology, even when she knows they teach that the law never saved anyone pre or post crucifixion.
 
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jahsoul

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But you have fallen for a lie. Maybe it is time to quote one of PeteWaldo's post on this subject that does an extremely good job of explaining why we should stand with Israel against islam.
What lie is that? I don't favor any side and not compelled to. I'm not out to be in a war against Islam but I speak to Muslim's to show them that they need a savior. People can have the us against them mentality all day, but I don't live in the state of Israel so I'm not fighting against enemies I've created (but dang if we don't have enough of those in the US)
 

Drett

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OK who woke up Doulos lol
 
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doulos

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What lie is that? I don't favor any side and not compelled to. I'm not out to be in a war against Islam but I speak to Muslim's to show them that they need a savior. People can have the us against them mentality all day, but I don't live in the state of Israel so I'm not fighting against enemies I've created (but dang if we don't have enough of those in the US)
Your attitude reminds me of an old poem.

First they came for the communists.
And I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
And I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
And I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
And there was no one left to speak for me! PastorNiemollier

The beast (islam) is staring us in the eye ready to take our heads but sadly most fail to recognize this because they have been blinded by the modern pop doctrines of partial preterism and futurism (products of the antireformation writers Jesuit priests Alcazar and Ribera). If you choose not to stand against the beast the choice is yours. As you are led friend, as you are led!
 

vic1980

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Psalms 125:2 [SUP]2 [/SUP]As the mountains are round about Jerusalem, so the Lord is round about his people from henceforth even for ever.

God bless
 

Drett

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We seem to have had a subject change. May have been what was intended. OK I'll leave you guys to fester in your hatred.
 
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jahsoul

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Your attitude reminds me of an old poem.

First they came for the communists.
And I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
And I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
And I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
And there was no one left to speak for me! PastorNiemollier

The beast (islam) is staring us in the eye ready to take our heads but sadly most fail to recognize this because they have been blinded by the modern pop doctrines of partial preterism and futurism (products of the antireformation writers Jesuit priests Alcazar and Ribera). If you choose not to stand against the beast the choice is yours. As you are led friend, as you are led!
Ironic that you used Martin Niemöller's quotation. He also said this

"I really believed, given the widespread anti-Semitism in Germany, at that time—that Jews should avoid aspiring to Government positions or seats in the Reichstag. There were many Jews, especially among the Zionists, who took a similar stand."

But truth is, Islam is no better than Judaism as they don't see Christ as the Messiah. I don't get into all of those "ism's" but the fact remains that Christ is the only way and anyone who doesn't see that falls into the same category; needing a savior.
 
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doulos

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OK who woke up Doulos lol
LOL I do occasionally take a break from witnessing on islamic forums and drop in here. I think the antichrists that have been decieved into believing that God has no Son by the lying, thieving, murdering, child doing (per islams own writings) mohammad need witnessing to more then the Christians on this site who have had the Scriptures available to them most of their life.


Isn't it time you set aside the 23 year stand alone record of the lying, thieving, murdering, child doing (per islams own writings) false prophet mohammad (lofbuh see Rev19:20 if you need an explanation) so that you can come to know the one true God of the Scriptures as recorded over 1600 years through the writings of the prophets to Christ?

1Jn 2:22-3 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

How can you know the Father if you deny His only begotten Son?

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

If you continue to deny Jesus is the only begotten Son of God how can you know the Father?

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Isn't it time you quit denying the Son and came to know Christ so that you might have eternal life?
 
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doulos

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Ironic that you used Martin Niemöller's quotation. He also said this

"I really believed, given the widespread anti-Semitism in Germany, at that time—that Jews should avoid aspiring to Government positions or seats in the Reichstag. There were many Jews, especially among the Zionists, who took a similar stand."

But truth is, Islam is no better than Judaism as they don't see Christ as the Messiah. I don't get into all of those "ism's" but the fact remains that Christ is the only way and anyone who doesn't see that falls into the same category; needing a savior.
The truth is that islam is the leopard bear lion beast of Rev. Those who refuse to stand against islamic aggression will be the ones who say "when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me".

Leopard, bear lion beast <click
As you are led friend. as you are led!
 
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So you try to redirect the talk to Islam versus Christianity to sway the minds to your way of thinking.

I included Christian Arabs to try to wake people up to what is happening. You apparently don't care. The yawning lion suits you. :)

I am here to highlight what people don't care too much about here. Crimes against people who happen to be Muslim by people representing you. The rest of the persecuted are looked after here.

My conscious is clear. I have done my small part to highlight human oppression. Happy to leave the rest to God. Judgement day is going to be a busy day.

Yes I expect a smart comment about how busy I will be on judgement day. :)
Incorrect Drett. I will not remark to you concerning judgment day, as there is only one who will judge. And Jesus said to condemn not lest you be condemned, Luke 6:37. Again the real question is why are you here on a Christian forum if you are not in search of the truth?

You say you are here to “highlight human oppression” but yet you fail to post anything on the violence, aggression, and oppression of the men, women, and children who will not submit to Islam. If there was truth in your words then you would also “highlight human oppression” by the followers of Islam who commit such atrocities as those we can read about in the following links.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#attacks
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2013.htm
http://www.persecution.org/category/countries/middle-east/islam/
(Due to TOS I cannot post any of the many videos or pictures that show the murder, rape, beatings, beheadings, and persecution of children, women, and men who refuse to submit to Islam.)

God’s Word says that antichrists are liars and deceivers. 1John 2:22, 2John 1:7.
And you’re expecting the followers of Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God to believe you?
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

I would like you to focus on the above verse I posted. Does it not bring you fear that you are indeed antichrist?

Oh and I just got to comment on zone’s coming to your defense. She has proven to me and many others on this forum that she is just as anti-Semitic, a liar, and a deceiver as you are…which make me wonder what spirit is leading her...

p.s. guess since you can't refute the truth might as well attack my avatar...
 
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jahsoul

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1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

I would like you to focus on the above verse I posted. Does it not bring you fear that you are indeed antichrist?

Oh and I just got to comment on zone’s coming to your defense. She has proven to me and many others on this forum that she is just as anti-Semitic, a liar, and a deceiver as you are…which make me wonder what spirit is leading her...

p.s. guess since you can't refute the truth might as well attack my avatar...
So, that includes everyone who is not a Christian, including the Jews...

And Zone doesn't appear anti semitic to me; anti zionist probably but not anti semitic. And also by definition, everyone who hates anyone in that region is anti-semitic. Just saying...
 
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So, that includes everyone who is not a Christian, including the Jews...

And Zone doesn't appear anti semitic to me; anti zionist probably but not anti semitic. And also by definition, everyone who hates anyone in that region is anti-semitic. Just saying...
Well I just noticed that zone's account has been disabled. But if you can maybe you should just go over some of her previous posts and perhaps you'll see as I noticed you haven't been on this forum very long.
May God Bless you...
 
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There seems to be more anti-semitism here than anti-islam.

You must believe Jesus Christ is Lord to be saved. That excludes islam and judism....thing is, I don't remember jews spreading their faith by the sword, nor is there anything in the bible saying that's the way to do it.

Its blatant propaganda to state Israel is oppressing anyone. There is no nation on earth as hated as Israel is without cause. Not even the USA.

Its like children. We should withdraw from the world and let it rot. The only reason we do not is because it would be too big of a mess to clean up. If you think the USA is evil, try living under the influence of China or Russia.

Whiney spoiled brats. You see a truly persecuted people like the jews and blow that off, but you side with terrorists and the people.....

WHO FORCED THE PALESTINIANS INTO ISRAEL JUST TO CAUSE THIS CONFLICT WHEN THERE NEVER EVER WAS A PALESTINIAN HOMELAND.......AND YOU KNOW THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's islam....the religion of peace that has as its head, a murdering pedaphile, who by the way is long long dead, rotting in hell.
 
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jahsoul

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There seems to be more anti-semitism here than anti-islam.
Semitism isn't a religious and I have no clue how it was turned into Jewish people, when it was used to describe a family of languages.

But let's be honest with ourselves, how is Israel being oppressed? Fact of the matter is they aren't. And you have read Esther to see how people became "Jews for fear of the Jews." Then we would have to read the historical books left out the Bible. But at the end of the day, it's all trivial. People under Islam and Judaism both need Jesus as their savior. Nothing else will do...
 
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Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism

When you have this history

When your neighbors want every citizen of your country dead.

When an entire ideology, liberalism/socialism hates you...

When a religion focuses its hatred on you

You are a persecuted people. I doubt any ethnic group has been persecuted more than the jews
 
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jahsoul

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Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism

When you have this history

When your neighbors want every citizen of your country dead.

When an entire ideology, liberalism/socialism hates you...

When a religion focuses its hatred on you

You are a persecuted people. I doubt any ethnic group has been persecuted more than the jews
Well, here are my views on it, section by section

*The thing about that history is most of that was done by so call Christian. Into the 20th century, it was as much "anti jew" as it was "anti zionism." Also, Zionism's role in the Holocaust is something interesting to research.

*Most of the neighbors have issues with issues with the state of Israel because of preemptive strikes in the name of border expansion. It's funny how Christian Zionist (looking at you John Hagee) hates Iran but overlooks the Iranian Jewish community or the death of Christians in Gaza....but hey...

*I think this is where people really don't get. It's one thing to be against religious Jews but it's another to be against Zionism. Trust me, most of the world is against the latter. An interesting watch:
[video=youtube;S94FjggXSGc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S94FjggXSGc[/video]

*What religion focuses hatred on them? Again, it's like 20 thousand Jews in the majority Muslim Iran who lives safe. I might be wrong but I think this fight is against Zionism.

*Your last content, I can't really comment on, because I don't know. It may be true, may not....

But I stand by what I said, without Christ, it's all vain..
 
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Are the jews in Iran plotting against Iran, causing all kinds of trouble and terrorism?

a little too easy
 
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jahsoul

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Are the jews in Iran plotting against Iran, causing all kinds of trouble and terrorism?

a little too easy
Nah, they are actually religious Jews and not political Zionist. Who is plotting in the state of Israel?
 
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Nah, they are actually religious Jews and not political Zionist. Who is plotting in the state of Israel?
Do a little research on the terrorist acts of the palistenians and other groups active in Israel.

Do you even wonder why israel reacts the way it does, or does your hatred of jews just automatically assumes jews will act in certain manners?

May I ask you a question?

Please, if you can, define bigotry for me.