It is not safe to be around ANY muslim

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JesusLives

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I suppose the Koran is also equal in truth to the Bible?
Where did you get that idea anywhere in my post? Just like every American does not read the Bible not every Muslim reads the Koran.... Just as we Americans are not all bad neither are they.

I take each individual on a case by case basis you write your own story good or bad and God is the one who will judge each individual. When you lump ALL people in a group that is mob thinking.... Wasn't fair to round up all the American Japanese and put them in camps back when that war was going on either but fear makes people not think straight.
 

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I suppose the Koran is also equal in truth to the Bible?
She did not mention anything about the Koran. There would be little value if we limit the love we share to only Christians and I do believe that truth is in the bible. Jesus said Himself that there were others that were not of this fold and that He must gather them in also. She has the right attitude and love in her heart to share.
 

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THIS is the answer to your question:TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks



I defy you to try and read this entire list. Yes it's true there are good and bad in all groups, but to try and compare ANY other group's evil deeds to the evil deeds DAILY committed by muslims IN THE NAME OF their moon god allah is ABSURD!!!
I highly advise you to back off your criticism of her. She does not have to read anything that you suggest. Your statement is ABSURD!!!
 

Blain

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Well I suppose its true muslums can be dangerous and they might kill me if i hang out with them but I never stop hoping they will Find Christ and be a living testimony of how God can cure a blackened heart.

It doesnt matter if their muslum or satanic i would still take a bullet for them because Jesus sacrificed himself for such ppl so we should do the same
 

PennEd

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I highly advise you to back off your criticism of her. She does not have to read anything that you suggest. Your statement is ABSURD!!!
My post stands. When someone says something I find ludicrous I will call them on it. To say that other groups today are similar in the DAILY atrocities committed by muslims IN THE NAME OF the moon god allah, is ignorant, dangerous, and flat out wrong. BTW I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't threaten me. Peace be with you.
 
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Did you really say this Roamer?

"- CHRISTIANS: Responsible for the bulk of terrorist attacks on US soil in the last few years in the name of our God, in a holy war against gays, abortionists and liberals. And they continue to harass and threaten other law-abiding citizens. All Christians are EVIL."

^ If you did, it's important for you to understand that every single piece of information in your statement is wrong. You can start by visiting the RAND Database of Worldwide Terrorism Incidents (RDWTI).

The FBI's most recent national threat assessment for domestic terrorism is also applicable though unfortunately, homegrown Islamic groups were whitewashed from the report presumably on orders from the white house and makes no reference to domestic Islamist terror threats; despite last year’s Boston Marathon bombing and the 2009 Fort Hood shooting—both of which were carried out by radical Muslim Americans.

The groups both databases state were primarily responsible for domestic terrorism in the U.S. (with the FBI deliberately omitting home grown Islamic terrorist groups) were: anti-government militia groups, separatist racial extremists (both black, brown, and white), “sovereign citizen” nationalists, anarchists, violent animal rights and environmentalist extremists, anti- and pro-abortion activists, and Puerto Rican nationalists.

"Christians" were hardly a blip on the radar and not one was a genuine Christian spiritually reborn into the Kingdom of God conforming their life to the teachings of Jesus Christ whom they made the Lord of their life displaying the true mark of a genuine Christian which are the fruits of the Holy Spirit (e.g. love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control)... not a single one.

And obviously, refusing to facilitate immorality when ordered to do so by an immoral person does not constitute a "holy war." But it can be argued that immoral people are waging an unholy war against Christians in this country today and seeking to use the government to do it.

It's sad that so many in your generation have been deceived to the extent you have with respect to both the facts and the truth.
Indeed, I did say what I said AgeofKnowledge. However, I have a feeling you may not have read the original post in its entirety (nor picked up the sarcasm I thought was bleeding from between the lines), nor checked the links to the references I posted. You are more than welcome to assert that I have been deceived once you have done so.

My statement that purported Christians have carried out terrorist attacks and that therefore all Christians are evil was absurd and wrong. Of course it was - you're right on that. Along with my other statements that all men, white males, NFL players, Americans/Aussies/Brits are evil, because of the evil that is regularly perpetrated by a select few from those groups. My point was to show the absurdity of PennEd's logic in distrusting any and all (1.5 billion) Muslims based on the evil actions of IS - who are we to judge any one group as more evil?

I'm glad you mentioned RAND. I would like to see evidence of FBI white-washing, as I'm a happy consumer of conspiracy theories as much as the next guy. I take my references from the Global Terrorism Database, an open-source record of terrorist attacks collated by the University of Maryland in conjunction with other universities. Academia on the whole has less reason to fudge the numbers (maybe).

In any case, their database confirms what you found. We can agree that domestic terrorism in the US has been committed by a diverse range of people for diverse reasons, including the Boston attacks carried out by people claiming to be Muslims. I believe this reaffirms the notion that anyone from any group is capable of evil, and it is therefore absurd to single out an entire group to shun (as my original post intended to point out.)

Finally, I am also in complete agreement with you that terror attacks carried out by people claiming to be Christians - such as those from the Army of God - can hardly be believed to be genuine Christians who have received Jesus Christ. However, the "holy war" I was disparaging was in fact the "holy war" in which certain "Christians" believe it is their right to firebomb, shoot and otherwise murder doctors who perform abortions, non-Christians and gay people, in God's name. I cannot think of anything more unholy than dragging God's name through the mud with personal hatred and violence.

That's why we have a responsibility to call out any discrimination against all Muslims that flares up (case in point: this thread) when an extremist group like IS claims to kill in the name of Allah. I know I hate when people point to the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church, or the Army of God, and assume that because we both claim the name of 'Christian', we are a unified cohort. I do not condone murdering doctors who perform abortions, just as many Muslims do not condone beheadings of non-believers.

I hope I've addressed your concerns, and thanks for taking the time to respond.
 
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Context is important. I agree. And no I didn't read the original post. OK, your statement was hyperbole and not meant to be taken literally but rather used to illustrate a point. No problem.

That said, you still have a serious problem with your assertion. Understanding what that is begins with coming to recognize that Islam is a false religious cult fabricated by a disillusioned Allah in a cave (much like the false religious cult of Mormonism was fabricated by a disillusioned Joseph Smith in a cave) while Christianity is the genuine article.

So it is no surprise then that there is a stark contrast between the epistemology of Islam and the epistemology of Christianity.

When a Muslim murders and enslaves non-Muslims to propagate the false religious cult of Islam fabricated by a disillusioned man named Allah in a cave much like the religious cult of Mormonism was fabricated by a disillusioned Joseph Smith in a cave, they are following the religious epistemology of Islam and fully expecting to be carnally rewarded in the afterlife for doing so.

Christianity, on the other hand, teaches the opposite meaning that when a Muslim commits domestic terrorist acts to further the submission of the world to the false pagan god Allah they are acting in accordance with the religious epistemology of Islam; however, if a Christian does so they are violating the religious epistemology of Christianity.

To use a metaphor, it's apples and orange. There is no 1:1 correlation between them on this issue so attempting to draw that correlation fails. Rather the two worldviews are diametrically opposed with respect to what we define today as domestic terrorism and uncorrelatable.

Now obviously all metaphysical epistemologies, including all religions as well as atheism, posit truth claims (which may be true or false) for people and societies which are often inculcated into political ideologies that affect government to one extent or another.

In the case of Islam, due to its rigid codified legal system, they are inseparably intertwined. The ramifications by now should be growing clear to you. When a theocratic Islamic nation commits acts of violence and human enslavement to spread Islam; it is justified in Islam.

However, there is no justification in Christianity for warring against and enslaving human beings for the purpose of furthering Christianity.

Certainly, as the one true genuine religious worldview, Christianity makes truth-claims that nations would be wise to incorporate into their various political systems but Christianity is not a theocratic political state religion like Islam.

So its no surprise that there is a contrast here too between an Islamic state executing violence and human enslavement to further Islam and non-Islamic states executing violence and human enslavement to further their own interests. For example, when the Soviet Union, whose metaphysical worldview was state atheism, engaged in the atrocious behavior; they were doing it to increase their own power on behalf of a non-religious political ideology.

In the case of the U.S., when they do it, they are acting not as a theocratic state religious entity but rather as a political entity and it needs to be stated in violation of the metaphysical worldview that greatly influenced their origin and initial development (though today the development is influenced primarily by liberal secularism).

Now none of this is to dismiss the agency of self-defense, just-war theory, etc... often argued with respect to Christian epistemology but rather to educate you further on the topic so that hopefully you come to understand them better.

And now I digress, so humor me: I think it's important to note that Westboro has about forty members from a population of about two billion Christians meaning it's not helpful to use such an infinitesimal handful of people as the basis for assertions about Christianity.

A far more relevant assertion can be made with the latest polling results from the UK which show that one-third of all Muslim students in the UK support violence on behalf of Islam.

And now you know the disparity exists.


Indeed, I did say what I said AgeofKnowledge. However, I have a feeling you may not have read the original post in its entirety (nor picked up the sarcasm I thought was bleeding from between the lines), nor checked the links to the references I posted. You are more than welcome to assert that I have been deceived once you have done so.

My statement that purported Christians have carried out terrorist attacks and that therefore all Christians are evil was absurd and wrong. Of course it was - you're right on that. Along with my other statements that all men, white males, NFL players, Americans/Aussies/Brits are evil, because of the evil that is regularly perpetrated by a select few from those groups. My point was to show the absurdity of PennEd's logic in distrusting any and all (1.5 billion) Muslims based on the evil actions of IS - who are we to judge any one group as more evil?

I'm glad you mentioned RAND. I would like to see evidence of FBI white-washing, as I'm a happy consumer of conspiracy theories as much as the next guy. I take my references from the Global Terrorism Database, an open-source record of terrorist attacks collated by the University of Maryland in conjunction with other universities. Academia on the whole has less reason to fudge the numbers (maybe).

In any case, their database confirms what you found. We can agree that domestic terrorism in the US has been committed by a diverse range of people for diverse reasons, including the Boston attacks carried out by people claiming to be Muslims. I believe this reaffirms the notion that anyone from any group is capable of evil, and it is therefore absurd to single out an entire group to shun (as my original post intended to point out.)

Finally, I am also in complete agreement with you that terror attacks carried out by people claiming to be Christians - such as those from the Army of God - can hardly be believed to be genuine Christians who have received Jesus Christ. However, the "holy war" I was disparaging was in fact the "holy war" in which certain "Christians" believe it is their right to firebomb, shoot and otherwise murder doctors who perform abortions, non-Christians and gay people, in God's name. I cannot think of anything more unholy than dragging God's name through the mud with personal hatred and violence.

That's why we have a responsibility to call out any discrimination against all Muslims that flares up (case in point: this thread) when an extremist group like IS claims to kill in the name of Allah. I know I hate when people point to the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church, or the Army of God, and assume that because we both claim the name of 'Christian', we are a unified cohort. I do not condone murdering doctors who perform abortions, just as many Muslims do not condone beheadings of non-believers.

I hope I've addressed your concerns, and thanks for taking the time to respond.
 

Atwood

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Is it safe? Well, if you wear a steal collar you are safer, along with a stab proof jacket, helmet, & Sherman tank.

Who knows when a Muslim will decide that he needs to follow his true religion, which requires world conquest by the sword?
 
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Context is important. I agree. And no I didn't read the original post. OK, your statement was hyperbole and not meant to be taken literally but rather used to illustrate a point. No problem.

That said, you still have a serious problem with your assertion. Understanding what that is begins with coming to recognize that Islam is a false religious cult fabricated by a disillusioned Allah in a cave (much like the false religious cult of Mormonism was fabricated by a disillusioned Joseph Smith in a cave) while Christianity is the genuine article.

So it is no surprise then that there is a stark contrast between the epistemology of Islam and the epistemology of Christianity.

When a Muslim murders and enslaves non-Muslims to propagate the false religious cult of Islam fabricated by a disillusioned man named Allah in a cave much like the religious cult of Mormonism was fabricated by a disillusioned Joseph Smith in a cave, they are following the religious epistemology of Islam and fully expecting to be carnally rewarded in the afterlife for doing so.

Christianity, on the other hand, teaches the opposite meaning that when a Muslim commits domestic terrorist acts to further the submission of the world to the false pagan god Allah they are acting in accordance with the religious epistemology of Islam; however, if a Christian does so they are violating the religious epistemology of Christianity.

To use a metaphor, it's apples and orange. There is no 1:1 correlation between them on this issue so attempting to draw that correlation fails. Rather the two worldviews are diametrically opposed with respect to what we define today as domestic terrorism and uncorrelatable.

Now obviously all metaphysical epistemologies, including all religions as well as atheism, posit truth claims (which may be true or false) for people and societies which are often inculcated into political ideologies that affect government to one extent or another.

In the case of Islam, due to its rigid codified legal system, they are inseparably intertwined. The ramifications by now should be growing clear to you. When a theocratic Islamic nation commits acts of violence and human enslavement to spread Islam; it is justified in Islam.

However, there is no justification in Christianity for warring against and enslaving human beings for the purpose of furthering Christianity.

Certainly, as the one true genuine religious worldview, Christianity makes truth-claims that nations would be wise to incorporate into their various political systems but Christianity is not a theocratic political state religion like Islam.

So its no surprise that there is a contrast here too between an Islamic state executing violence and human enslavement to further Islam and non-Islamic states executing violence and human enslavement to further their own interests. For example, when the Soviet Union, whose metaphysical worldview was state atheism, engaged in the atrocious behavior; they were doing it to increase their own power on behalf of a non-religious political ideology.

In the case of the U.S., when they do it, they are acting not as a theocratic state religious entity but rather as a political entity and it needs to be stated in violation of the metaphysical worldview that greatly influenced their origin and initial development (though today the development is influenced primarily by liberal secularism).

Now none of this is to dismiss the agency of self-defense, just-war theory, etc... often argued with respect to Christian epistemology but rather to educate you further on the topic so that hopefully you come to understand them better.

And now I digress, so humor me: I think it's important to note that Westboro has about forty members from a population of about two billion Christians meaning it's not helpful to use such an infinitesimal handful of people as the basis for assertions about Christianity.

A far more relevant assertion can be made with the latest polling results from the UK which show that one-third of all Muslim students in the UK support violence on behalf of Islam.

And now you know the disparity exists.
Good points, AgeofKnowledge. I agree with what you have to say, and what Roamer has to say as well.
True Christians are not violent. They profess peace and love, just as Jesus did. True Muslims are violent. Islam is a religion of violence.

For the past 5 years, I have studied Islam and read numerous books on this incredibly false religion. What saddens me is that I have at least a hundred friends who are Muslims and who believe this religion. However, they also believe that Jihad was later added to their doctrine, and is not right.

So, almost all the Muslims I know, and who I have talked with about their faith, believe that violence is not right. I can also show you their anti-ISIS posts. That being said, they have been blindly following a false and evil religion and my heart goes out to them.

Also, the fact that their Saviour (Mahdi) parallels our Anti-Christ is quite frightening. So, yes, extremist Muslims are out to convert the world to Islam, and they do that with the Quran in one hand, and a sword in the other. Yet, not all Muslims are violent.
Heck, the contractor who built my house is Muslim (as well as all the masons, plumbers, carpenters, electricians). And, he, Abdul, is one of the most humblest people I have ever come across. He and my dad used to have lengthy conversations about Islam and Christianity. At least we got a chance to tell him about our Jesus, and that was done through love.

What is happening vastly around the world is the conversion of Muslims to Christianity and the Muslim leaders are trying hard to cover that.
Our family friend, Abdul Kareem converted and now is a pastor preaching the gospel of Christ. His family is still Muslim, and when asking his brother to just read the bible, his brother said- "No. I won't. Else I may turn into a Christian too."

I know at least 20 Muslims personally who have turned to Christ and are spreading His gospel. I feel as Christians, we need to share the gospel of Christ and His love to people, instead of having any animosity towards them.
Satan is the real enemy here and he is deceiving many people and using them. It is so so sad.

Love to all,
Genevieve.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Geesh, I must have been tired when I posted. Change "Islam is a false religious cult fabricated by a disillusioned Allah in a cave" to "Islam is a false religious cult fabricated by a disillusioned man in a cave."

LOL. I need coffee.
 
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Defending our country and the world if we all work together and stopping them before they kill us is not the same thing as corrupting a faith and becoming radicals and saying it is ok to kill everyone who does not bow down to allah and convert.

No way on God's earth it is the same thing.
 
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So, earlier in one of my posts, I stated this:
So, almost all the Muslims I know, and who I have talked with about their faith, believe that violence is not right. I can also show you their anti-ISIS posts. That being said, they have been blindly following a false and evil religion and my heart goes out to them.
I want to correct myself here. The Muslims I know (quite a few, considering that India has the third largest population of Muslims, following Indonesia and Pakistan), say that they do not support ISIS and violence, but their Quran teaches them that people who do not accept Allah must be killed. This is the only religion where they are commanded to fight and kill in the name of their god (I reserve the capital G only for my God). And, Jesus prophecies about this.

[h=3]John 16:2 (KJ21)[/h]
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues; yea, the time cometh that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

Therefore, I do believe that Muslims strongly believe in their faith, their Quran, and all the additional warped traditions. Islam is a religion of violence and they all know that their Mahdi is going to appear very soon. And, that there will be another war. So, yes. we ought to be vary of them, and of everyone else (including Christians, who may turn out to be false teachers and prophets).

Coming to my actual point, quite a few Muslims do believe in killing innocent people (non-Muslims) in service to their god, yet most of them will not kill, themselves. I mean, they kill their own daughters for crying out loud! (Honour killings, they say!) Islam also preaches gender inequality, and I am quite surprised as how my Muslim girl friends are completely fine with it. According to their belief, women were made for men's pleasure, and if a guy commits jihad, he will go directly to paradise and get 77 virgins, and his earthly wife celebrates this when he dies, because she is soooo happy for him. Gah!

However, :), there are really nice Muslims out there, too. And, I still feel it would be wrong to judge them all as if they were terrorists. Prejudices. Prejudices. I don't blame you all for not trusting. Really, I don't. Because I know how crazy and fanatical this religion is. But, I choose not to discriminate all of them on the basis of the actions of a few. I will still treat my Muslim friends and acquaintances with respect, and show them Christly love. Maybe, just maybe, I will win one more soul for the Kingdom of Heaven.
 

Angela53510

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Hate mongering is not going to win anyone to Christ.

Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists, New Agers all are going to hell. How can we save them? By blanket condemnations, without them even knowing the gospel?

Jesus is not impressed with this continual nonsense of condemning people, esp. before they have heard the real gospel of Jesus dying on the cross for their sins.

Jesus could have called down legions of angels to save him from death. Did he do that? No!!

"And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments." Luke 23:34

Should we be worrying about death by Muslims, or about their lost souls?? I think these threads are more about saving our lives and little countries, than doing the work of our Father in heaven, which is to preach the gospel to all the world.

"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Matt 28:18-20

Sometimes I have to wonder how believers can for a minute hold onto all this cultural nonsense, instead of going to the lost and telling them about Jesus. Just playing right into the hands of Satan, no doubt about it!
 

Angela53510

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By the way, that beheading in Oklahoma was denounced by the local and national Muslims. The guy started attending the mosque in May, and is a known criminal. Interestingly, he had "Jesus Christ" tattooed on him.

LA Times

"Nolen, who has a string of convictions from 2011, was released from probation in April. His offenses included marijuana possession, escape from detention, assault and battery on a police officer and possession of cocaine with intent to distribute, according to records from state corrections officials"

Sounds like a really upright, long time Muslim! NOT!! More like a disaffected Christian, with psychotic tendencies. I guess those are everywhere.
 

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Hate mongering is not going to win anyone to Christ.

Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists, New Agers all are going to hell. How can we save them? By blanket condemnations, without them even knowing the gospel?

Jesus is not impressed with this continual nonsense of condemning people, esp. before they have heard the real gospel of Jesus dying on the cross for their sins.

Jesus could have called down legions of angels to save him from death. Did he do that? No!!

"And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments." Luke 23:34

Should we be worrying about death by Muslims, or about their lost souls?? I think these threads are more about saving our lives and little countries, than doing the work of our Father in heaven, which is to preach the gospel to all the world.

"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Matt 28:18-20

Sometimes I have to wonder how believers can for a minute hold onto all this cultural nonsense, instead of going to the lost and telling them about Jesus. Just playing right into the hands of Satan, no doubt about it!
You know I agree with you 100%. I often wonder how much of their "zeal" for God comes at the point of a sword with a death threat, but I have imagined if all their (by "their" I mean the Muslims as a whole) devotion to God was turned to Jesus Christ what a force in the world that would be. They do need to hear truth, and while I know that Islam DOES absolutely teach terrible things, I still see them as lost souls in need of our Savior, ALL of OUR Savior. So I agree that demonizing the individual Muslim is no answer and is against what we are commanded to do, and they need Jesus as much if not more than we do. Thanks for sharing you perspective.
 

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gene77

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Hate mongering is not going to win anyone to Christ.

Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists, New Agers all are going to hell. How can we save them? By blanket condemnations, without them even knowing the gospel?

Jesus is not impressed with this continual nonsense of condemning people, esp. before they have heard the real gospel of Jesus dying on the cross for their sins.

Jesus could have called down legions of angels to save him from death. Did he do that? No!!

"And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments." Luke 23:34

Should we be worrying about death by Muslims, or about their lost souls?? I think these threads are more about saving our lives and little countries, than doing the work of our Father in heaven, which is to preach the gospel to all the world.

"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Matt 28:18-20

Sometimes I have to wonder how believers can for a minute hold onto all this cultural nonsense, instead of going to the lost and telling them about Jesus. Just playing right into the hands of Satan, no doubt about it!
Finally, someone who agrees with me. Thought it was just Roamer. And, about PennEd's statement about going into mosques to preach, that's a suicide mission right there. And, God has given us discernment to know when it the right time and right place. Paul and the disciples were on the run almost every day. Preach, flee, and hide. Different people are called to do different things.

I have actually met a former Muslim imam. Jesus met him in a dream, and changed his life forever. He had to preach in a mosque, and he walked in, preached the gospel to them, and then had to flee for his life, because they tried to murder him. He now preaches the gospel of Jesus around the nation and his aim is to win his Muslim brethren to Jesus.

So, there is a lot of hope. You're right, Angela. We should probably focus more on winning souls for the Kingdom of God rather than focusing on condemning people. After all, that's the last command Jesus left us: Spread the gospel!