It's Go Time, Trump Announces Run!

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Billyd

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I don't think I can stand 23 months of TDS and TWS. I hope that he is out of the campaign early. The last thing that this country needs is another four years of a democrat POTUS.
 

ZNP

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Trump didn't make the vaccine in his basement. Nor did he demand that anyone get vaccinated. If you didn't listen to his speech last night you should go give it a listen. He touched on that. Secondly, Ron is a big boy, he can handle it. Like I said, it's like a wrestling match. Behind the scenes they are buddies. Trump voted for him. Don't need to get your knickers in a twist. It's the way the game is played.
Well let's talk about what he did do.

1. He guaranteed $10 billion to be paid to the developers of the vaccine.

This is what is known in poker as a tell. You have a worldwide pandemic, the whole world is begging for a cure and the drug makers won't touch this without a guarantee of being paid? Obviously if it was a cure they would be paid, this tells you how much confidence they had in the vaccine.

2. He facilitated a vaccine to be rushed to market.

This gave it legitimacy. Everyone who has been vaccine hesitant argues that the testing is not adequate and these products are rushed to market. Now it isn't them but a national emergency that rushed it to market.

3. We were assured that the products would be tested in trials to guarantee they were safe and effective at stopping transmission. This was never done.

4. The fact that the vaccine was a "bipartisan" effort with Trump handing it off to Biden gave it added legitimacy.

If Trump was a useful idiot like Colin Powell why does he continue to tout that as a success?

If Trump is not responsible for the vaccine then why is Biden responsible for the abandonment of Afghanistan? They both simply gave the order to be carried out.

If Trump is not responsible for the vaccine then why does he get credit for Roe v. Wade being overturned, he isn't a Supreme court justice, he didn't vote to overturn it.
 

Dude653

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One more thing. What alarmed me two years ago was how a large portion of America was being censored, silenced. I felt the "deplorables" were like the canary in the coal mine with a critical warning that we needed to hear. However, this censorship works both ways. We now have half the country that won't listen to the other half. No one has a monopoly on the truth. There are valid reasons to not trust DJT and I feel people ignore them because of some other thing about him they like. It is easier to see with those who ignore the failings of Biden. But in the end the debate is not over Biden or Trump but rather Jesus or the antichrist. If you don't see that you are deceived.

When Abraham refused to take one shoelace from the King of Sodom he showed we don't compromise one iota with sin. But already this populist movement is being convinced they have no choice but to compromise. So I'll stick with Abraham.
Well Abraham isn't running for president so Americans are going to have to pick which one to vote for
 
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kaylagrl

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My understanding has changed slightly.

I used to think that God would bring judgement in to the US through DJT but not by DJT. That while people were distracted with all this rigamarole the judgement would fall in one hour.

Now I think this is more than a distraction, it is part of the great delusion. I still believe it is associated to God bringing in His judgement but it shows how multifaceted the great delusion is. Anyone who doesn't have the love of the truth will be deceived, whether it is by this fool's hope of being able to vote sin away or by the hokey explanation of the rapture with UFOs, or even the selling of the antichrist as a phony Messiah.

I would warn that the delusion is truly great and if you are not under the Lord's blood, with your eyes set on Him you run the risk of being deceived.

I think DJT has been specially tailored so that if possible even the elect would be deceived.

What do I mean that DJT is specially tailored so that even the elect might be deceived?

1. DJT gave us 3 pro life judges and these judges have overruled Roe v. Wade. That seems to be an answer to prayer. However, I suspect it will be one of those carrots with a string attached to it. It looks like a big accomplishment that will be jerked away at the last second.

No, Christians didn't get off their behind and support it. Not DJTs fault. We had an amendment here and they voted it down. This state is full of evangelicals and Catholics, it should have easily passed. They didn't get up and vote, and they are the ones to blame.


2. Biden looks like an incompetent fool in the Afghan withdrawal, but that fiasco was set up by DJT, he set the stage.

Nope! That was all Mr Bumbles. HBO has a documentary on it, give it a watch, it will change your opinion. You don't withdraw your soldiers first, any idiot knows that. Wouldn't have happened under Trump.




3. Every day we realize more and more that the Pandemic and the vaccine are the works of evil sorcerers. You can't deny DJT played a major role in this.
Again, nope! He didn't make the vaccine, he didn't force anyone to take it. That was Bumbles. He didn't know what was in the vax, he didn't know whether it would work or wouldn't. It was after he left office that they started with "if you're not vaxxed you're the problem" mantra. Now we're up to 234234 boosters. No!! The CDC pulled this junk out of their behinds, now they are slowly coming clean. They tore into Trump because he wouldn't praise the vax. They tore into him because he wanted to open the economy and schools again. They were mad because he wouldn't wear a mask. CDC were the supposed experts, it's on them, not him.




4. The over the top attacks on Trump by the slimiest of people in the Main Stream Media makes you think it is a seal of approval. If these people hate him so much then that is proof he is actually good. Now I think these attacks were too over the top so that they (whoever this most evil puppeteer is) did it in the hopes that it might deceive even the elect. In other words, Joy Reid hating on Trump would be like a campaign ad for Trump to his supporters.
Ahh, so the MSM rips him a new one constantly but secretly they love him. Makes total sense. Joy Reids favorite thing to do is hate, every single day. The MSM is an arm of the Dems plain and simple. They hate Trump because of what he stands for. A two day old monkey could see that. And if Trump doesn't win, they'll do the same to the next guy. Remember the don't say gay bill?

5. When I went to the rallies I was impressed by how many Christians were there. However, it was a strange blend of patriotism and faith which I had never seen. I believe everyone is going to have to make a choice, which kingdom are you standing for, the kingdom of the heavens or the kingdom on earth? As a result I have come to feel it is like a trap specially designed to appeal to Christians. Everyone wants to feel like they are doing a work of righteousness, so this is the appeal.
Are you kidding me?! People of patriotism and faith getting together to defend the Constitution and our country? How dare they?! Can't you walk and chew gum? Sorry, this feels like a cop out. With everything going on in our country trying to push back Marxism and save the indoctrination of our children, now Christians want to sit on their behinds and just wait till heaven comes?! Wow!

6. Over the last two years what has been accomplished? More and more it seems the primary accomplishment is to keep Christians distracted with a fool's hope while the one world government and the one world religion move towards their completion.

Fools hope?!! What are you talking about?! We know there will be a one world religion. We know what will happen in the end times. Doesn't mean you sit in ashes and wait in doom and gloom. And you don't let Marxist transgender, BLM, CRT, illegals, and degenerates take over the country in the mean time!! Honestly, some of you fought in WW2. You didn't sit back and say " whatever will be will be". You went and fought for freedom, for your children and grandchildren and their children. You didn't sit on your hands and say "Well I don't know if God is in this". NO!! You were full of patriotism AND faith and you believed America would win because they were morally right!! You didn't confuse politics and faith, you did it because of your faith. What is wrong with Christians today? I don't get this POV, at all.
 
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kaylagrl

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Well let's talk about what he did do.

1. He guaranteed $10 billion to be paid to the developers of the vaccine.

This is what is known in poker as a tell. You have a worldwide pandemic, the whole world is begging for a cure and the drug makers won't touch this without a guarantee of being paid? Obviously if it was a cure they would be paid, this tells you how much confidence they had in the vaccine.

2. He facilitated a vaccine to be rushed to market.

This gave it legitimacy. Everyone who has been vaccine hesitant argues that the testing is not adequate and these products are rushed to market. Now it isn't them but a national emergency that rushed it to market.

3. We were assured that the products would be tested in trials to guarantee they were safe and effective at stopping transmission. This was never done.

4. The fact that the vaccine was a "bipartisan" effort with Trump handing it off to Biden gave it added legitimacy.

If Trump was a useful idiot like Colin Powell why does he continue to tout that as a success?

If Trump is not responsible for the vaccine then why is Biden responsible for the abandonment of Afghanistan? They both simply gave the order to be carried out.

If Trump is not responsible for the vaccine then why does he get credit for Roe v. Wade being overturned, he isn't a Supreme court justice, he didn't vote to overturn it.

I loved armchair quarter backs. You know why he rushed the vaccine. The rest of what you said belongs in the conspiracy forum. And he chose the people that overturned Roe, that's why he gets credit.
 

Dude653

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Yeah Trump had already said we were getting out of Afghanistan Biden was just following through with what Trump had already set in motion
 

markss

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Are you kidding me?! People of patriotism and faith getting together to defend the Constitution and our country? How dare they?! Can't you walk and chew gum? Sorry, this feels like a cop out. With everything going on in our country trying to push back Marxism and save the indoctrination of our children, now Christians want to sit on their behinds and just wait till heaven comes?! Wow!
This falls under, "but if you have opportunity to gain your freedom, use it". Let's use whatever opportunity we have. Freedom provides Christians more opportunity to minister to others.

Christians working for liberty is fully Biblical.

Much love!
 

markss

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Yeah Trump had already said we were getting out of Afghanistan Biden was just following through with what Trump had already set in motion
Trump was planning the withdrawal for winter when the Afgani soldiers go home for the poor weather. President Trump knew to remove civilians first, hardward second, troops last, and destroy anything you leave behind. Standard military protocol. We all know what the Biden regime did, that's on them.

Much love!
 

markss

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My wife and I listened to his speech last night, and we remain in prayer for him. Maybe God will give us some more time yet!

Much love!
 

Dude653

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Trump was planning the withdrawal for winter when the Afgani soldiers go home for the poor weather. President Trump knew to remove civilians first, hardward second, troops last, and destroy anything you leave behind. Standard military protocol. We all know what the Biden regime did, that's on them.

Much love!
Yeah and that's part of the reason Biden won't win if he runs again
 

Dude653

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As for the vaccine, mnra vaccine technology is decades old which is why they were able to produce a vaccine so quickly
As for religion, Islam is currently the world's fastest growing religion.
 

markss

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As for the vaccine, mnra vaccine technology is decades old which is why they were able to produce a vaccine so quickly
As for religion, Islam is currently the world's fastest growing religion.
And, President Trump didn't require anyone to get it.

:)

Much love!
 

Dude653

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And, President Trump didn't require anyone to get it.

:)

Much love!
Yes I agree that people shouldn't be required to take it if they don't want to. The only thing that gets on my nerves is condescending antivaxers who feel the need to lecture everyone who decided to take the vaccine for their own personal reasons
 

markss

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To be fair, he wasn't in office long enough to try to require it...
He never called for a mandate, and said it shouldn't be. We shouldn't assume he'd have changed course later.

Much love!
 

Bob-Carabbio

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He's a sucker for punishment, Trump announces his 2024 bid. Game on!!
What a "Surprise". likelyhood is that the U.S. will continue it's death spiral, and since i'll be OUTTA HERE possibly before Biden's run is over, I couldn't care less what Trump does or doesn't do. I'll vote for him, or any other RED figurehead they want to put up.
 
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kaylagrl

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What a "Surprise". likelyhood is that the U.S. will continue it's death spiral, and since i'll be OUTTA HERE possibly before Biden's run is over, I couldn't care less what Trump does or doesn't do. I'll vote for him, or any other RED figurehead they want to put up.

I wish we all could be outta here, would solve all these problems.
 

Billyd

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The thought of having to put up with almost two years of rehashed wall to wall January 6 turns my stomach.