Let's get this over with POLL - TRUMP or CLINTON?

[RachelBibleStudent]

I'm restraining the urge to go on another long polling tirade. I hate polling that is done improperly or interpreted loosely. I love polling that is done well and utilized for the brief snapshot it is.

regarding polls in general... the polls for the 2016 election season have been largely accurate so far...while the pundits were predicting losses for trump the pollsters were predicting wins...and overall the pollsters were vindicated...

the ones rejecting the polls back then were the people predicting that trump would lose to one of the sixteen other candidates...the ones rejecting the polls now are the people predicting that trump will win against clinton...the irony of some people's rapid reversal on the issue of polling is obvious...

also those who are in denial of all of the polls showing trump losing to clinton should remember the 'unskewed' craze back in 2012...when republican advocates were declaring all polls that showed obama winning to be 'skewed'...and even recomputed their own 'unskewed' versions of the polling data... likewise these supposedly 'skewed' polls were largely vindicated when the november 2012 presidential election results came in...

 

[Mitspa]

regarding polls in general... the polls for the 2016 election season have been largely accurate so far...while the pundits were predicting losses for trump the pollsters were predicting wins...and overall the pollsters were vindicated...

the ones rejecting the polls back then were the people predicting that trump would lose to one of the sixteen other candidates...the ones rejecting the polls now are the people predicting that trump will win against clinton...the irony of some people's rapid reversal on the issue of polling is obvious...

also those who are in denial of all of the polls showing trump losing to clinton should remember the 'unskewed' craze back in 2012...when republican advocates were declaring all polls that showed obama winning to be 'skewed'...and even recomputed their own 'unskewed' versions of the polling data... likewise these supposedly 'skewed' polls were largely vindicated when the november 2012 presidential election results came in...

The polls before a election are different than the polls taken to shape an election.. its already been proven that the pollsters have tried to slant the polls toward Hillary ... establishment polls reflect those voters who vote in a establishment way..called likely voters. These voters are well known to both parties ..and do not reflect the millions of new voters brought in by Trump or who may actually come out and vote in the election for the first time ever or in a long time. Along with the fact that Trump is basically even or ahead in some respected polls ...its safe to say Trump will be the next President of the USA ... #obamaexit

 

[Sirk]

regarding polls in general... the polls for the 2016 election season have been largely accurate so far...while the pundits were predicting losses for trump the pollsters were predicting wins...and overall the pollsters were vindicated...

the ones rejecting the polls back then were the people predicting that trump would lose to one of the sixteen other candidates...the ones rejecting the polls now are the people predicting that trump will win against clinton...the irony of some people's rapid reversal on the issue of polling is obvious...

also those who are in denial of all of the polls showing trump losing to clinton should remember the 'unskewed' craze back in 2012...when republican advocates were declaring all polls that showed obama winning to be 'skewed'...and even recomputed their own 'unskewed' versions of the polling data... likewise these supposedly 'skewed' polls were largely vindicated when the november 2012 presidential election results came in...

All this proves is that the sheeple vote for who the news wants them too...and who they want them to be excited about or not be excited about. The issue the media has with Trump is that he does it better than they do and they don't have any other "game" at the present juncture. Lol

 

[Mitspa]

The reason Romney lost is because the "likely voters" most being Evangelical Christians decided to stay home instead of voting for a Mormon that was forced upon them by the establishment ... God put it on his peoples heart to stay home ..is my opinion.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

The polls before a election are different than the polls taken to shape an election.. its already been proven that the pollsters have tried to slant the polls toward Hillary ... establishment polls reflect those voters who vote in a establishment way..called likely voters. These voters are well known to both parties ..and do not reflect the millions of new voters brought in by Trump or who may actually come out and vote in the election for the first time ever or in a long time. Along with the fact that Trump is basically even or ahead in some respected polls ...its safe to say Trump will be the next President of the USA ... #obamaexit

all of your arguments could have just as easily been made during the primary election campaign...and yet in aggregate those primary polls turned out to be right nonetheless...

no...this is just you deciding that a poll must be right if it tells you what you want to hear and wrong if it tells you what you don't want to hear...

and this kind of reasoning is part of how elections are lost...hillary clinton thanks you for not taking her polling leads seriously...she maintains the element of surprise because you are willfully blind...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

All this proves is that the sheeple vote for who the news wants them too...and who they want them to be excited about or not be excited about. The issue the media has with Trump is that he does it better than they do and they don't have any other "game" at the present juncture. Lol

the media didn't have any issue with trump back when they were giving him $2 billion in free publicity...

now all of a sudden he can't get a break...but we -told- you this would happen all along...

 

[Mitspa]

all of your arguments could have just as easily been made during the primary election campaign...and yet in aggregate those primary polls turned out to be right nonetheless...

no...this is just you deciding that a poll must be right if it tells you what you want to hear and wrong if it tells you what you don't want to hear...

and this kind of reasoning is part of how elections are lost...

Young lady I remember being told time and again that Trump could never win by the experts looking at the polls ... And we know how elections are lost ..its by going along with the establishment and letting them pick our nominee ..this time ..win or lose the people picked the nominee... and I will gladly bet you 10 pushups to be videoed and played on the forum ..if you would like?

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

The reason Romney lost is because the "likely voters" most being Evangelical Christians decided to stay home instead of voting for a Mormon that was forced upon them by the establishment ... God put it on his peoples heart to stay home ..is my opinion.

actually -this- is the year when God is putting it on his people's hearts to stay home...

 

[Sirk]

the media didn't have any issue with trump back when they were giving him $2 billion in free publicity...

now all of a sudden he can't get a break...but we -told- you this would happen all along...

I'm not complaining about Trump getting a break or whatever. Personally I think he is doing just fine. And if you think the media hasn't made a TON of money off of "giving" Trump "free" publicity you have yourself sorta well....fooled.

 

[Mitspa]

actually -this- is the year when God is putting it on his people's hearts to stay home...

No ..young lady .(removed) that works for Hillary

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Young lady I remember being told time and again that Trump could never win by the experts looking at the polls ... And we know how elections are lost ..its by going along with the establishment and letting them pick our nominee ..this time ..win or lose the people picked the nominee... and I will gladly bet you 10 pushups to be videoed and played on the forum ..if you would like?

like i said...nearly all of the polls pointed to trump winning the primaries...except for a short period where carson was winning...

those experts you heard were -not- paying attention to the polls...they were playing your current game of -ignoring- the polls because they weren't telling them what they expected to hear...

and the republicans' nominee this year was picked by a roughly 40% minority that included a large number of democrat interlopers voting for the one candidate who could blow an election against hillary clinton...'the people' did not pick the republican nominee...-the people- were sidelined...

 

[Sirk]

like i said...nearly all of the polls pointed to trump winning the primaries...except for a short period where carson was winning...

those experts you heard were -not- paying attention to the polls...they were playing your current game of -ignoring- the polls because they weren't telling them what they expected to hear...

and the republicans' nominee this year was picked by a roughly 40% minority that included a large number of democrat interlopers voting for the one candidate who could blow an election against hillary clinton...'the people' did not pick the republican nominee...-the people- were sidelined...

The only people who were sidelined were the were the ones who have been picking your candidate for you and it was because Trump won more delegates than they expected. I think they still have something up their sleeve tho. Unless their blind supporters like yourself would hold their feet to the fire seeins how they been exposed and all.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

No ..young lady ..you are hearing the devil that works for Hillary

there is a devil that works for hillary clinton?

and what occultic grimoire did you dig that gem out of?

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

The only people who were sidelined were the were the ones who have been picking your candidate for you and it was because Trump won more delegates than they expected. I think they still have something up their sleeve tho. Unless their blind supporters like yourself would hold their feet to the fire seeins how they been exposed and all.

actually around 60% of the republican primary voters who chose someone -other than trump- are the ones who have been sidelined...

 

[Mitspa]

like i said...nearly all of the polls pointed to trump winning the primaries...except for a short period where carson was winning...

those experts you heard were -not- paying attention to the polls...they were playing your current game of -ignoring- the polls because they weren't telling them what they expected to hear...

and the republicans' nominee this year was picked by a roughly 40% minority that included a large number of democrat interlopers voting for the one candidate who could blow an election against hillary clinton...'the people' did not pick the republican nominee...-the people- were sidelined...

No..no ..the polls didn't reflect Trumps popularity until it became clear he was winning ..and there is a huge difference between a leftist poll taker ..taking a poll between republicans and taking a poll to support Hillary against Trump. The pollsters have already been caught cooking the books ... the leftwingers are cheating ...why do you find that so hard to believe?

 

[Yonah]

what amazes me is that so many people think its actually an election ..... they have known for some time now who would be appointed as the next puppet, oh I mean president.

 

[Sirk]

actually around 60% of the republican primary voters who chose someone -other than trump- are the ones who have been sidelined...

Really...so Bush was good with 10 million votes but Trump isn't with 11? I'm guessing you really had to be up in arms about that one.

 

[Mitspa]

actually around 60% of the republican primary voters who chose someone -other than trump- are the ones who have been sidelined...

Rachel you know several people on this forum who voted for Cruz (like me) and now support Trump ...look at the results of this poll on a "Christian" forum ..you are living in denial if you think other conservatives are in your suicide pact to destroy our country and give the election to Killery.

 

[Mitspa]

what amazes me is that so many people think its actually an election ..... they have known for some time now who would be appointed as the next puppet, oh I mean president.

I guess Brexit was fake too? You left-wingers will do anything to suppress conservative voters ..even telling them its all fixed

 

[Sirk]

I guess Brexit was fake too? You left-wingers will do anything to suppress conservative voters ..even telling them its all fixed

This is the first election in a long time where one of the candidates isn't a fake one.