Maui Fire

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HealthAndHappiness

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ZNP said:
I heard they were burned so badly you can't use dental records. Probably all those they found were not in a house. All those houses were burned to ash. I also heard that the "bodies" they find all crumble to ash as well.
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The president's speech was just aired on A J's show starting at the beginning, lunch break so you can probably listen at the start when it's posted later. As for Biten, "No, no comment."

AJ is covering it pretty well from what I can tell. Interesting thing is that Guess who's interested in buying all of that valuable property?

Does the name Bill Gates ring a bell?
 
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From what I see, there was a total lack of disaster planning on behalf of the state and local governments. It was a disaster waiting to happen.

The president's comment was the most disgusting disaster related comment that I have ever heard. I wonder what he told the FEMA people.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
The president's speech was just aired on A J's show starting at the beginning, lunch break so you can probably listen at the start when it's posted later. As for Biten, "No, no comment."

AJ is covering it pretty well from what I can tell. Interesting thing is that Guess who's interested in buying all of that valuable property?

Does the name Bill Gates ring a bell?
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Biden has a very bad habit of spilling the beans so he was probably threatened severely with talking about Maui for fear he would claim that we have the best fire starting technology in human history.
 
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Hmm.. Now I'm really beginning to wonder. :unsure:
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That doesn't make sense, this community is right on the coast, isn't Bill worried about Climate change and sea level rising?
 
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Billyd said:
From what I see, there was a total lack of disaster planning on behalf of the state and local governments. It was a disaster waiting to happen.

The president's comment was the most disgusting disaster related comment that I have ever heard. I wonder what he told the FEMA people.
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I lived on the coast in Texas and in a disaster like a hurricane it never made a difference if it was a red or a blue president the response from the government is slow as Christmas. I've been watching since it took place and the first time I saw any military people there was on the news yesterday. How many days does it take to get from Pearl Harbor or the other bases to Maui to help your own people? The crazy part is we send trillions of aid to other nations but we always drop the ball when it comes to our own tax payers. Don't we actually have ships and such that shoot water at boats that are burning like in the movies?
 
HealthAndHappiness

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Billyd said:
From what I see, there was a total lack of disaster planning on behalf of the state and local governments. It was a disaster waiting to happen.

The president's comment was the most disgusting disaster related comment that I have ever heard. I wonder what he told the FEMA people.
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Every time there's a man made disaster that occurs during or after the event, poor planning, lack of taxes $, "oops our agency is soooo incompetent" are the publicized excuses/ reasons. One of many cases was Hurricane Katrina where residents heard explosions coming from the levy.

That's the prime real estate in the country, some would say the world. They are located in the middle of the Pacific ocean and are built around volcanos. Hurricanes are expected normal parts of the season. This one they are blaming it on was reported to be very mild, 60-70 mph. I might be wrong.
Perhaps the fire departments are less funded and poorly run than the VFDs in the rural hollows if West Virginia. I've been told that the taxes are quite high there, so I have doubts.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
AJ is covering it pretty well from what I can tell. Interesting thing is that Guess who's interested in buying all of that valuable property?

Does the name Bill Gates ring a bell?
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How do you keep people from diving into the water to swim away?

I have a suggestion on how you keep people from trying to swim away. Take the scraps from the kitchen every day and use it as chum to attract sharks so that you have a bunch of sharks off the coast.

You can also put algae into the water that glows in the dark when you swim through it. That makes it easier to shoot anyone who is swimming and with the blood in the water, the sharks will take care of the rest.

Problem solved!
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
Every time there's a man made disaster that occurs during or after the event, poor planning, lack of taxes $, "oops our agency is soooo incompetent" are the publicized excuses/ reasons. One of many cases was Hurricane Katrina where residents heard explosions coming from the levy.

That's the prime real estate in the country, some would say the world. They are located in the middle of the Pacific ocean and are built around volcanos. Hurricanes are expected normal parts of the season. This one they are blaming it on was reported to be very mild, 60-70 mph. I might be wrong.
Perhaps the fire departments are less funded and poorly run than the VFDs in the rural hollows if West Virginia. I've been told that the taxes are quite high there, so I have doubts.
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I think the part everyone is missing is that in most towns in the US they have 1,2 3, fire departments depending on the population. It boiled down to a simple math equation where if a house caught on fire you have a fire station respond. If two houses catch on fire you call another fire station to respond. So do the math if the wind is blowing at 40 miles an hour and 300 houses and structures catch on fire then you need at least 300 fire stations to respond and there were not 300 fire departments on Maui. Past that everyone's just letting their imagination get the best of them.
 
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iamsoandso said:
I think the part everyone is missing is that in most towns in the US they have 1,2 3, fire departments depending on the population. It boiled down to a simple math equation where if a house caught on fire you have a fire station respond. If two houses catch on fire you call another fire station to respond. So do the math if the wind is blowing at 40 miles an hour and 300 houses and structures catch on fire then you need at least 300 fire stations to respond and there were not 300 fire departments on Maui. Past that everyone's just letting their imagination get the best of them.
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No, that was not the issue, the issue was that the fire plugs didn't have any water pressure, there was no alarm and there was no guidance as to which way to flee. Also, the fire did not burn all of Maui, only one fourth of it. So those ten fire stations could have sent all fire trucks to Lahaina, but there was no alarm, no call for them to come. 170 square miles means that at most they were 40 miles away with fire trucks.
 
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iamsoandso

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No, that was not the issue, the issue was that the fire plugs didn't have any water pressure, there was no alarm and there was no guidance as to which way to flee. Also, the fire did not burn all of Maui, only one fourth of it. So those ten fire stations could have sent all fire trucks to Lahaina, but there was no alarm, no call for them to come. 170 square miles means that at most they were 40 miles away with fire trucks.
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Yep your beginning to figure it out several hundred structures were burning, cpcv water pipes burn and so water sprayed out everywhere from them and everyone whose homes weren't on fire already were all trying to wet their homes down at the same time that's a good example of why there was low water pressure. Do we really need to point a finger at someone or should we just say the poor people were caught in a freak set of circumstances and pray to Jesus for them?
 
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Yep your beginning to figure it out several hundred structures were burning, cpcv water pipes burn and so water sprayed out everywhere from them and everyone whose homes weren't on fire already were all trying to wet their homes down at the same time that's a good example of why there was low water pressure. Do we really need to point a finger at someone or should we just say the poor people were caught in a freak set of circumstances and pray to Jesus for them?
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Those are the two possible scenarios.

However, the unfortunate set of coincidences includes a few others that you haven't mentioned. I posted the video, they had this big meeting and Hawaii announced they would be the first to have a 15 minute city, and Bill Gates wanted to convert Maui to one of these 15 minutes cities. So instead of "unfortunate" set of coincidences it would be more appropriate to say "fortunate" set.
 
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Those are the two possible scenarios.

However, the unfortunate set of coincidences includes a few others that you haven't mentioned. I posted the video, they had this big meeting and Hawaii announced they would be the first to have a 15 minute city, and Bill Gates wanted to convert Maui to one of these 15 minutes cities. So instead of "unfortunate" set of coincidences it would be more appropriate to say "fortunate" set.
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Well ok if you need to have someone to blame it on go ahead.
 
ZNP

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Well ok if you need to have someone to blame it on go ahead.
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You want to hear another really strange coincidence? The 2023 solar eclipse over the US and the 2024 solar eclipse over the US intersect directly above Uvalde, Texas. That was the town with Robb elementary school where all the kids were shot up.
 
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You want to hear another really strange coincidence? The 2023 solar eclipse over the US and the 2024 solar eclipse over the US intersect directly above Uvalde, Texas. That was the town with Robb elementary school where all the kids were shot up.
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So do you think that the officials in Uvalde Texas were responsible? I would think you would check first to see if those officials there were red or blue before you do because they may all be on your favorite team...
 
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So do you think that the officials in Uvalde Texas were responsible? I would think you would check first to see if those officials there were red or blue before you do because they may all be on your favorite team...
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I don't have a favorite team, you have been listening to slander.

There are 788 cities in the US with a population of 50,000 or more. There are more cities between 50,000 and 100,000 than all those over 100,000. Therefore it is quite reasonable to think there are 1,000 towns and cities with populations of 15,000 or more (Uvalde has a population of 15,000). So the odds that this was random is 1,000:1

So if you think I am pushing conspiracy theories it means you believe in incredible coincidences.

I think everything about the Uvalde shooting proves it was a false flag event.

1. The one door that was unable to be locked was the one this guy randomly picked to go in?

2. The police stay outside for 40 minutes while shots are being fired killing little children?

3. This guy working at a fast food restaurant, living with his mom, could afford 100k worth of firepower, gear, and a nice car?

4. Why would he pick that school, no one ever gave a compelling reason?

5. One of these eclipses is on Friday the 13th, the other was on August 1st which was a satanic festival.
 
iamsoandso

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I don't have a favorite team, you have been listening to slander.

There are 788 cities in the US with a population of 50,000 or more. There are more cities between 50,000 and 100,000 than all those over 100,000. Therefore it is quite reasonable to think there are 1,000 towns and cities with populations of 15,000 or more (Uvalde has a population of 15,000). So the odds that this was random is 1,000:1

So if you think I am pushing conspiracy theories it means you believe in incredible coincidences.

I think everything about the Uvalde shooting proves it was a false flag event.

1. The one door that was unable to be locked was the one this guy randomly picked to go in?

2. The police stay outside for 40 minutes while shots are being fired killing little children?

3. This guy working at a fast food restaurant, living with his mom, could afford 100k worth of firepower, gear, and a nice car?

4. Why would he pick that school, no one ever gave a compelling reason?

5. One of these eclipses is on Friday the 13th, the other was on August 1st which was a satanic festival.
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lol, no I just knew that Uvalde county is Republican,,Abbott the Governor is Republican and that they are MAGA supporters but if you would like to connect them to a satanic festival go ahead I'll watch.
 
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