Muslim Patrols In London: Vigilante Muslims Enforcing Islamic Law In The Streets

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ahem.....

‘YOU ARE ENTERING A SHARIAH CONTROLLED ZONE’: UK GROUP TO WAGE ISLAMIC LAW CAMPAIGN
Jul. 15, 2011 2:45pm Buck Sexton

“Muslims Against Crusades” (MAC), an Islamic group based in the United Kingdom, plans to wage a propaganda campaign to make a portion of London accept Sharia law. They are calling it the “Islamic Emirates Project,” and it is designed to create beachheads for sharia across the UK.



The MAC appears to be affiliated with professional Islamist provocateur Anjem Choudary- formerly of al-Mujaharoun and various other radical Muslim groups. Choudary is a known associate of Omar Bakri Mohammed, who was leader of al-Mujaharoun until he was kicked out of the UK permanently for his proclamations supporting Jihad.

Below is a video of Choudary, discussing the death of Osama Bin Laden, and the coming Jihad:

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Choudary is a known associate of Omar Bakri Mohammed, who was leader of al-Mujaharoun until he was kicked out of the UK permanently for his proclamations supporting Jihad.


:rolleyes:
haha. kicked out...what on earth does that mean.
where did he go.
is anyone keeping track of this ruthless terrorist.
why wasnt he charged or arrested or summink.
just....kicked out.
mkay.

well...WHO IS HE REALLY.....


Islam4UK that proposed a march on Wootton Bassett, is actually a proven British Intelligence group working to rachet up tensions between muslims and british citizens ......to continue the threat of terrorism, adn agitate for civil war in UK and MORE WAR in the M.E.

Anjem Choudary is linked to Al-Mujaharoun, a group created by British MI6 to fight the Serbians in the Kosovo war.




come on guys.....i am not for Islam. but what i really hate is Western LIES AND PROPAGANDA to keep us at WAR.
with fabled enemies they created! Al-Quaeda - FAKE....Bin Laden: fake - 9-11: inside job.....seriously!!!!!

if ppl still have not figured out who did 9-11 (and London 7-7), none of this will ever make any sense at all.



just look at this from CNN....read it as a propaganda piece and it is as clear as day.



Al Qaeda: A Global Threat?; Israeli/Palestinian Peace Process Still Stalled

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, HOST: The United States examines the accused Fort Hood gunman’s ties to a radical cleric in Yemen. Are al Qaeda and its allies trying to stage a resurgence in the U.S., and in Europe? Is this their new frontier?

I’m Christiane Amanpour, and welcome to our program.

The killings at the U.S. military base at Fort Hood, as well as the ongoing debate on Afghanistan, have put al Qaeda back in the headlines and in the minds of counter-terrorists.

We talked to the State Department’s ambassador at large for counterterrorism, Daniel Benjamin. It’s his first television interview since taking office.

We’ll also be talking with al Qaeda experts, Karen Greenberg and Thomas Hegghammer, who’ve been tracking global jihad for years.



In the United States anti-terror officials say that a suspect they arrested in September was planning attacks on the New York mass transit system. It’s an eerie reminder of the Madrid train bombings of 2004 that killed nearly 200 people. And the so-called 7/7 suicide bombings on the London transit system which killed more than 50 people.

We focus on al Qaeda. Is it weakening, or does it have a new lease on life? We start with this report from CNN’s Nic Robertson in London.

[Video Clip of Islam4K]:rolleyes:

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They’re an angry minority. Their goal, nothing short of Muslim domination of the United Kingdom, if not the world.:rolleyes:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This poster is basically showing how we will transform Buckingham Palace into a local mosque for the Muslims.

ROBERTSON (on camera): And what happens to the Queen?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, the Queen, she’ll have the choice. She can either become Muslim or she can leave the country.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): This man, Anjem Choudary, is their leader. He demands Islamic law known as Shari’ah to be the law of the land.

ANJEM CHOUDARY, ISLAM4UK: Drugs will be banned. Pornography will be banned. Gambling will be banned.

ROBERTSON: Choudary’s strategy is to pit Muslims against everyone else to create tension.

CHOUDARY: We do expect to enter into a struggle, if you like, of words, and maybe even more than that, before we can see the fruition of the Shari’ah on the state level.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Muslims are here to say!

CROWD: Muslims are here to say!

ROBERTSON: Like Muslim radicals, Yusef Qutab (ph) and Yunis Abdullah Mohammed in New York, Choudary supports Osama bin Laden and justifies the 9/11 attacks. In fact, Choudary claims he was spreading the message of jihad, or holy war, even before 9/11.

CHOUDARY: I’ve been to New York a couple of times before 9/11. And even to the bible belt, I think they call it, in the Midwest. And you know it’s about propagating Islam. I do believe that the Muslims of America are possibly five or 10 years behind in terms of the struggle that they’re engages in.

ROBERTSON (on camera): What Choduary is implying is that how radicalization evolves here in Britain and in Europe will in some part be a model for what the United States can expect. Here, terrorism officials say they’re tracking about 30 serious terror plots.

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okay....ANOTHER BLOODTHRISTY TERRORIST MASTERMIND who has publically declared jihad....has a bounty on his head just moves around freely, being interviewed by CNN, chatting about this and that, calling for murder...nothing happens. they just kick him out - they say.

WHERE IS HE NOW CIA and everybody supposed to keep me safe.
WHERE IS THE GUY.....oh....maybe he is under my bed.

i should be terrified every moment of the day.

too bad i know who this group is, and THAT THEY ARE STAGE-MANAGING IT ALL.

























look...if you guys at Central Casting can not start working properly, imma come down and clean house!
come up with something CONVINCING.

and make sure there`s no stupid RCMP issue boot stickers caught on camera this time like at G20!
 

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These folks will be playing infantry.........
 
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It will never happen. The muslim-hate in the UK isn't as bad as the US, but it has its moments. London is a cross-cultural city and it'll never be in any part 'only for muslims'.

You can't have one section of a country abiding by the extremists' perceived view on 'Sharia Law' when the laws of the land are against many of its practices.

Most Muslim extremists don't even understand the concept of Sharia anyway. It means' struggle with God' (not unlike our term 'Israel') And It's to do with the true form of God, and each person's INDIVIDUAL wrought with him. It's not a set of laws to be passed over the world, at least not to most muslims that I've ever met.

Bad, hateful doctrine is a product of a hateful mind, and we see the same thing in Christianity ALL the time.

Think of the Westboro Baptists; most Christians hear about them and say 'How can anyone be so absolute blind and crazy?'

That's the same reaction that the general muslim man has at extremism.
 

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What does Shari`ah mean? The word Shari`ah literally means “a waterway that leads to a main stream, a drinking place, and a road or the right path.”

It's Jihad that can mean 'inner struggle' not 'sharia'.
 
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The idea of a global caliphate is frightening.
 

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The idea of a global caliphate is frightening.
You don't find it more frightening that governments that rule Christians one by one are moving away from God in their rulings ?
 
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Theophane

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You don't find it more frightening that governments that rule Christians one by one are moving away from God in their rulings ?
That is frightening as well, but not unexpected. The Bible does warn the believer of such things.
 

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That is frightening as well, but not unexpected. The Bible does warn the believer of such things.
The bible has a lot of good stuff in it. What is the solution ?
 
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The bible has a lot of good stuff in it. What is the solution ?
This world is a runaway disaster but sooner or later Jesus will return and the final battle of Armaggedon will be fought. We are very close!
 
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What does Shari`ah mean? The word Shari`ah literally means “a waterway that leads to a main stream, a drinking place, and a road or the right path.”

It's Jihad that can mean 'inner struggle' not 'sharia'.
Sorry your right, my mistake. The sharia is the 'way', and the 'jihad' means the struggle that someone encounters finding that true way.

thank you for that.

But likewise, the whole 'sharia law' concept is blown way out of proportion.

Hate taints the teaching and for most muslims, the 'right path' is far, far away from stoning people to death and cutting off womens' clitoris'.
 
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The idea of a global caliphate is frightening.
Though there's never any reason for we Christians to be frightened. Not even these 500 men, women and children that were burned alive by Muslims in their church in Nigeria. They no longer have to suffer the "the fiery darts of the wicked.":

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"Muslims are determined to impose their 'religion' all over Africa as well as in other continents and countries of the world. Islam has but one goal: rule the world at any cost!"
"And where are the International Human Rights Organizations?
Christians are burnt alive in Nigeria, a horrific Holocaust right in front of International indifference as denounced by Father Juan Carlos Martos on behalf of the Missionari Clarettiani via del Sacro Cuore di Maria, Rome, Italy." (link to article at United Copts)

Or the thousand Christians killed by the new Muslim government on the Ivory Coast of Africa. Or the poor folks that have suffered in the over 20,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks, around the world, just since 9-11.

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Indonesia, which practices FGM, jails consenting adults, assigns religious ID cards, imprisons Facebook users, forces religious conversion on non-Sunnis, firebombs church orphanages and
pelts worshipping Christians with excrement (when not beheading
them) has been called the most moderate of Islamic countries.
Here, Muslims bulldoze a church right in front of the congregation.


Here's a list just since January of this year:
TheReligionofPeace.com - List of Islamic Terror Attacks for 2013
 
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Sorry your right, my mistake. The sharia is the 'way', and the 'jihad' means the struggle that someone encounters finding that true way.

thank you for that.

But likewise, the whole 'sharia law' concept is blown way out of proportion.

Hate taints the teaching and for most muslims, the 'right path' is far, far away from stoning people to death and cutting off womens' clitoris'.
Female genital mutilation is nothing new to Islam.

Tabari VII:121/Ishaq:375 "I saw Hamzah cutting down men with his sword, sparing no one. He yelled out to us, 'Come here, you son of a cutter-off of clitorises.' He hit Siba so swiftly, his sword could not be seen striking his head. So I balanced my javelin until I was satisfied. Then I hurled it at Hamzah. It struck him in the lower part of the belly with such force it came out between his legs. He came toward me, but was overcome and fell. I waited until he was dead and recovered my javelin. I returned to the camp since there was nothing else I wanted." Unlike the Muslims, the Africans were civil."

Female genital mutilation couldn't be more Islamic. "In Egypt, at least 90 percent of women are believed to have undergone FGM [female genital mutilation]. In 2005, a report by UNICEF had claimed that 97 percent of Egyptian women aged 15-49 had undergone the operation. Here, the issue has been a source of controversy. A CNN broadcast from 1994, in which a 10-year-old girl in Egypt was shown being "operated upon" by an unskilled practitioner, caused a hostile reaction. Egypt sued CNN for $500 million for damaging its reputation, but the case was thrown out by courts."

It is true that most Muslims prefer to leave the heavy lifting to the 18% or so that are Muhammad's true followers, that do as Muhammad did, and commanded his followers to do.

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.


"Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari" - Maktba Dar-us-Salam's page 580

Chapter 2. The best among the people is that believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with both his life and property.

footnotes:

[1] "Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped by Allah] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; there honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.

[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat )prayer_ and observe Saum )fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.


So let me ask you my friend. I'm sure you would agree that Islam is not a matter of what you wish it were. So who would a rational person understand the ultimate arbiter of Islam would be? A western peacenick hypocrite, or a true follower of Muhammad wielding a beheading knife in one hand supported by the Quran and Hadith in the other?

But then what should we expect from followers of a false prophet that proclaimed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel? A man whose books reveal he himself was the exact opposite of the sinless Messiah, the Lamb of God, the Prince of Peace.

Matthew 16:21
From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.


Matthew 20:17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them, 18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, 19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.

But from a 7th century SW Arabian desert dwelling illiterate that made the scene 500 years after the scriptures were closed:

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

The only anti-a-specific-religion cult on earth.

 
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'Muslim Patrol' vigilantes attempt to control London streets


Thugs masquerading as 'Muslim Patrols' have been accosting residents in London, demanding they abide by the laws of what they deem a 'Muslim area'

'Muslim Patrol' vigilantes attempt to control London streets - The Commentator
It's what people filled with that spirit do. They are fiercely jealous of the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination that others enjoy - the very antitheses of Islam - and are in particular jealous of the freedom we enjoy in Christ Jesus.

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In Saudi Arabia the religious police sent 15 girls to their death, by forcing them to go back into a burning school, because they had the audacity to attempt to flee the flames .............. without wearing head coverings!

"The English-language Saudi Gazette, in a front-page report yesterday quoted witnesses as saying that members of the religious police stopped men who tried to help the girls escape from the building, saying: 'It is sinful to approach them.'"


"A civil defense officer told an Arabic-language newspaper, al-Eqtisadiah, that he saw three members of the religious police "beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya"."

Daliy Telegraph (London), March 15, 2002
 
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I think it's unfair to demonize all of Islam this way.
 
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I think it's unfair to demonize all of Islam this way.
You must not have read the whole post to misrepresent what I wrote like that, though your sentence is too vague. If you meant the religion of Islam itself it should be sent back to the pit of hell, saving anymore poor deluded souls from it.

It is true that most Muslims prefer to leave the heavy lifting to the 18% or so that are Muhammad's true followers, that do as Muhammad did, and commanded his followers to do.
By "heavy lifting" I meant the job of true Muslims which is the conquest and subjugation of all non-Muslims to Muhammad's followers. At the beginning they did it with swords and slavery. A second generation slave would generally have been brainwashed into being a Muslim.

The reason I quoted from Islam's books is so you could understand that true Muslims have been commanded to conquer the world, and subjugate all people to DISbelieveing the crucifixion of Christ, DENYING the Son of God, and REJECTING His shed blood, as articles of their faith in the false prophet Muhammad alone. That means you, and your heirs, to prostrating toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca five times a day, while praying in the "vain repetitions of the heathen" (as the scriptures refer to it) five times a day, in the names of the Arabian pagan deity "Allah" and his "messenger" Allah.
 
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You must not have read the whole post to misrepresent what I wrote like that, though your sentence is too vague. If you meant the religion of Islam itself it should be sent back to the pit of hell, saving anymore poor deluded souls from it.
I meant Muslims, actually. Muslim individuals.

I think you are being too hard on Islam without taking an honest look at Christianity.
 
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It will never happen. The muslim-hate in the UK isn't as bad as the US, but it has its moments. London is a cross-cultural city and it'll never be in any part 'only for muslims'.

You can't have one section of a country abiding by the extremists' perceived view on 'Sharia Law' when the laws of the land are against many of its practices.

Most Muslim extremists don't even understand the concept of Sharia anyway. It means' struggle with God' (not unlike our term 'Israel') And It's to do with the true form of God, and each person's INDIVIDUAL wrought with him. It's not a set of laws to be passed over the world, at least not to most muslims that I've ever met.

Bad, hateful doctrine is a product of a hateful mind, and we see the same thing in Christianity ALL the time.

Think of the Westboro Baptists; most Christians hear about them and say 'How can anyone be so absolute blind and crazy?'

That's the same reaction that the general muslim man has at extremism.
Don't bet on it. There are places in the U.S., if I remember correctly, that are under or almost under Shahira law.
 
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There is a profound saying that I once heard;

'You can always tell a man of God by the tone in which he speaks'

Like the bible, there are wayward translations of the Quran, that invoke hatred. There are misinterpretations and words that people don't quite comprehend.

And there are opposers of each on either side, willing to even taint translation itself to suit their goals.

But I know that there are muslim men and women that are true people of God, because they speak in peace, they hold their tongues, and they preach charity, and good-relations, and compassion.

I'm not even going to begin pointing out the flaws in the verses above, because to a person who is convicted that Islam and all its followers are hateful and out to destroy, there is no point.

There is also a saying from God;

'I am that I am'.

People see God, in the way that they see. And they show God, in the way that they themselves show. And they preach God, as the God that they know.

'But when I have wrought with you for my name's sake, then you shall know truly that I AM GOD'.

It's only when God comes to wrestle with us for the sake of his very reputation, how we see him, that we WILL see him.

One God.
 
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sorry but I need to say something.

For a start; Surah 4:157 is talking extremely deeply, profoundly. It's saying 'Jesus can't be killed'.

They DIDN'T kill him truly. Because how can they kill what cannot die?

Surah 9:29-31 is saying; Struggle with those who believe not in God nor the Day of God, those who don't hold things forbidden which are forbidden by God and His Messengers, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the right-tribute which is willing submission; till they are brought low 30 The Jews say 'Ezra and the vagabond God', and the Christians Jesus and the vagabond God'. That is their saying; they only imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse is on them that they are deluded away from the Truth!

It means remember not to put some of the messengers, even Jesus, BEFORE God.

The Jews tended to put Abraham and Moses before the God that they worshipped. Hence the law, the harshness, forgetting their God of compassion, like the Pharisees, who lived by ritual. And the Christians today tend to put the 'cross' and Jesus before the God who sent him for his purpose!

The Quran calls Jesus' MESSIAH! It doesn't deny Jesus' 'nearness to God', or the miraculous conception, look;

"When the angel said, "Mary, god gives you a good tidings of a word from Him, whose name is to be messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, -high honoured shall he be in this world and the next, near stationed to God. He shall speak to men in the cradle, and of age, and righteous he shall be, "lord" said Mary "How shall I have a son, seeing no mortal has touched me? "Even so, he said "God creates what He will".
When he decrees a thing He but speak his word to it, "Be", and it is'

The problem Muslims point out is that Jesus is put BEFORE God a lot. the same way some muslims put Mohammed before him.

The messenger shouldn't come before the person who sent them.