Ohio Woman Tased for Not Wearing Mask

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lenna

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or, you could just look at all the data that masks do little to stop covid, unless you have a n95 medical grade mask..
we have been trying to make one in the garage for weeks now
 
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lenna

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Two elderly women sitting on a park bench are surrounded by cops. One of them has her phone snatched out of her hands
well of course

no phone, no video
 

wisebeardman

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the lady is going to win big,
mask mandates are unconstitutional, can't be enforced. a lot of people are going to be very rich after it gets to the fed courts.
and quite frank, anyone pushing this mask garbage needs to be charged with inciting panic (same as yelling fire in a movie theater) all the fear and panic they are putting people in over a virus with a 99.97% survival rate.
If you believe this whole "masks save" garbage you 1. are a low information type and 2. part of the problem.
 

kaylagrl

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Ah no footage but i think i saw the one... A woman in the stand of a stadium... Ok then...
I'll call the Ohio police and raise a more totalitarian Victoria police in Australia...

Two elderly women sitting on a park bench are surrounded by cops. One of them has her phone snatched out of her hands

Woman being choked and manhandled into submission. She had a valid exemption for not wearing a mask

This man escaped the mental ward of a hospital... He is now in a coma after this sickening head stomp from Vicpol...

A pregnant woman is told that she cannot sit alone on a park bench to catch her breath while she was walking...

I'm stunned, no words to describe that. I can't even...
 

Billyd

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Facts. Wearing a surgical grade mask reduces your chances of getting a virus by 75% or more. It reduces your chances of transmitting it to others by 95% or more. Wearing A KN95 mask reduces your chances of transmitting or getting the virus by 99% or more. KN95 masks are normally single use, but can be sanitized in an O3 sanitizing system like those used to sanitize sleep equipment. KN95 masks are now available in small quantities (2-3) for about $10. Surgical grade masks are available in 20 packs from a variety of sources for about $10.

Wear a mask. Save a senior citizens life.
 

Truth7t7

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the lady is going to win big,
mask mandates are unconstitutional, can't be enforced. a lot of people are going to be very rich after it gets to the fed courts.
and quite frank, anyone pushing this mask garbage needs to be charged with inciting panic (same as yelling fire in a movie theater) all the fear and panic they are putting people in over a virus with a 99.97% survival rate.
If you believe this whole "masks save" garbage you 1. are a low information type and 2. part of the problem.
I agree 100%

Like we're gonna shut America down for every virus that comes along.

Protect and isolate the vulnerable elderly and those with medical ailments, like many other succesuful nations have done.

The democrats have used this as a tool of control, political.

There are 70,000 deaths from the common flu annually in the US, when the smoke clears, the numbers of (Fraud) Covud19 cases being removed it will be the same.
 

wisebeardman

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I agree 100%

Like we're gonna shut America down for every virus that comes along.

Protect and isolate the vulnerable elderly and those with medical ailments, like many other succesuful nations have done.

The democrats have used this as a tool of control, political.

There are 70,000 deaths from the common flu annually in the US, when the smoke clears, the numbers of (Fraud) Covud19 cases being removed it will be the same.
Back in Jan/Feb the leftist were saying the china-virus was nothing more then a right wing racist conspiracy theory, and if you find a chinese person who just got off the plane from wuhan you should go give them a hug and kiss or you are racist.

then in March they flip flopped and began screaming we need to close everything! screw the economy close it all down or everyone will die!

unlike the brain dead people, I remember the last virus that was "dangerous" and was "going to kill everyone" nothing got locked down, no unconstitutional mask garbage no 24/7 fear mongering on fake death and infection counts. that virus was the pig flu aka swine flu 2009 (3,433 died in that one). why did no fear mongering take place? oh yeah a leftist was president at the time. and history will show once the fake wuflu numbers are corrected it will be about the same as the pig flu.
 

soggykitten

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The offender in this case was not a police officer!

They were a school resource officer with a weapon. I don't know why no one prevented this assault before the offender electrocuted this victim. They're outside! There's no requirement to wear a mask out of doors.

 

kaylagrl

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Fake news.

The woman wasn't arrested for "not wearing a mask." She was arrested for criminal trespassing when she was asked to leave the premises for not following school policy for masks and refused to comply. The woman has every right to not wear a mask but she does not have the right to trespass or resist arrest when she is trespassing (she was asked to leave multiple times).

This is the type of misinformation you get on Fox News and CNN. We should be better than that.
She was social distanced outside!! No one was near her but her own family. She has a medical issue and told them so. She wasn't trespassing. And I didn't add a link or source of where the story came from,nice try though. Every news site is reporting on it. But apparently your news source is the only correct one. I'll read on and see where this wonder news source that is never wrong can be found :)
 

kaylagrl

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https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/09...mask-policy-ohio-middle-school-football-game/

"One of the district’s policy is that all spectators wear a mask when on school property, including at athletic functions. "

You don't have to like the policy or even like the no trespassing law, but don't get mad at the person who enforces the policies and/or laws. This is why BLM is a joke, and why many who are opposed to BLM are just as hypocritical. I pray one day everyone will stop looking at the world with skin colored filters.

Big difference between burning down a city and beating/murdering people in the streets and not wearing a mask. Don't compare Marxists to a soccer mom, it's ridiculous.
 

kaylagrl

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You actually agree with me that "wearing masks" is not a law. I said that repeatedly in this thread. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact that mask wearing is only policy. I feel I was crystal clear and yet you repeat the same thing as if we disagree. lol

What you're not responding to is that the woman WAS NOT ARRESTED for NOT WEARING A MASK. We both agree she should NOT be arrested for refusing to wear a mask. Thank God we don't live in a country that would arrest for that. Nevertheless, she was arrested for trespassing as she was told to leave the premises and refused. This isn't opinion nor is it my opinion... this is just fact. If we know that refusing to wear a mask is not an arrestable offense and the woman WASN'T arrested for that reason... then WHY was she arrested? Oh... right, for not leaving the premises after she was warned that by not leaving she'd be trespassing.

As you can see, this situation isn't even about wearing masks. It's about people not liking the fact that [criminal] trespassing is an enforceable law which can result in the person breaking the law being arrested. That's the bottom line.
Who pays for schools?! Last time I checked it was tax payers. This isn't Wal-Mart. It was school property. Several reports say she had a medical reason for not wearing the mask. Outside, social distanced, no mask needed.
 

kaylagrl

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If she is medically exempt, she should have shown the documentation. If she didn't have it on her, the police officer can't just take her word for it.

Medical exemption in relation to Covid-19/mask wearing is a new phenomenon. If it sticks around, we will absolutely see new legislation about it. For now, without proper documentation, a person has to comply. What's interesting is that a police officer or store owner cannot legally ask why you're medically exempt... but they do have the right to see if you have documentation to back that claim up.
Nope, not the case unless Ohio has rules other states don't. Have a family member that has a medical issue, called the Gov. office and they said if asked about it to simply say you have a medical issue and are under the disability act. So unless Ohio has a different law on the books, she doesn't have to wear a mask, and they cannot ask her what the medical issue is. That is private.
 

kaylagrl

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it's pretty revealing when someone x's your post but then cannot even say why

is it affirming of what they believe but cannot express why? personal dislike perhaps? both? :unsure:

Yeah I've mentioned misuse of the x before. Most people use it because they dislike the person instead of just blocking someone they don't get along with. I've been x-ed by people that were banned from the site because I called them out on their doctrine or some false comment. I don't do it simply because the person isn't my cup of tea. But I will give one back if someone is just doing it to be nasty.
 
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lenna

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Yeah I've mentioned misuse of the x before. Most people use it because they dislike the person instead of just blocking someone they don't get along with. I've been x-ed by people that were banned from the site because I called them out on their doctrine or some false comment. I don't do it simply because the person isn't my cup of tea. But I will give one back if someone is just doing it to be nasty.
believe it or not, most of my 51 x's come from one single person

the latest is also personal

very immature. I have stopped using the x's for the most part, not because I am the best example of maturity, but because of what you state...dislike making things personal. I have no illusions that people here do not form deep dislike for certain others and I don't care to sink in that bog

people use it like a club and it reveals their way of dealing with others

it's just all one big smh :giggle:
 
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EleventhHour

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No, what's hypocritical is blaming the cop for enforcing the law. I actually agreed with an irrelevant point you are making that if it was a White cop who did this to a Black woman, then BLM would be up in arms about it. However, let's be fair... In that scenario, a lot of people who are blaming the cops for arresting this woman would then change their standpoint and say "Well, the White cop was enforcing the law. He asked the Black woman to leave and she didn't. He warned her that she'd be criminally trespassing. If you just listen to the cop, you won't get tased or arrest, but noooooo... You break the law and blame the cop for enforcing the law!"

Do you disagree with my opinion (as I said, we can't pawn hypothetical scenarios as facts) that people's view would be reversed on BOTH sides? Hense, it's 100% hypocritical.

Anyone that has been to a sports event knows that one has to abide by the rules set out by the owners of the the property, I have witnessed many people escorted out for a variety of reasons.... some very minor.
 
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EleventhHour

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As I mentioned earlier, Covid-19 and mandatory mask wearing is new frontier in legislation.
Masks were ordinances in some states in 1918... some how people think this is all new.
Covid 19 is a novel virus for sure... most all new cases where I live are under 40... we will see how they fair.

These reactions in the USA are similar to 1918 which helped to hasten the more deadly second wave.
 

kaylagrl

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So "asthma" is now "medically exempt"? Stating one has "asthma" is the same as saying "I am medically exempt from wearing a mask"? This is not synonymous and I think you actually know better.
As I said, unless Ohio is different from my state, all you need to say is you have a medical reason. That reason is no ones business.
believe it or not, most of my 51 x's come from one single person
the latest is also personal

very immature. I have stopped using the x's for the most part, not because I am the best example of maturity, but because of what you state...dislike making things personal. I have no illusions that people here do not form deep dislike for certain others and I don't care to sink in that bog

people use it like a club and it reveals their way of dealing with others

it's just all one big smh :giggle:
Yeah I deleted several x's that I gave people. But it shouldn't be allowed to be misused. That person is being un-Christlike giving you so many x's. Some people chase you all over the forum just to zap you. smh So immature.
 
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lenna

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As I said, unless Ohio is different from my state, all you need to say is you have a medical reason. That reason is no ones business.


Yeah I deleted several x's that I gave people. But it shouldn't be allowed to be misused. That person is being un-Christlike giving you so many x's. Some people chase you all over the forum just to zap you. smh So immature.

yes. nothing to do with me, because I opted out of the drama, but they will no longer be doing that to anyone;)
 

soggykitten

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Ohio's mask mandate states masks are compulsory indoors. Or, outside when social distancing is not possible.
If you watch the video I posted, the victim of this resource officer's assault is with her family. Her mother and two children. None are wearing masks you'll note. This RO targeted the mother for no good reason.

Ohio’s mask mandate takes effect. What are the rules?
Micah Karr 7/27/2020


DeWine provided exceptions to the order: those younger than 10, anyone with a medical condition or disability or communicating with someone with a disability, those who are exercising or playing sports, officiating a religious service, actively involved in public safety and those who are actively eating or drinking are not required to wear a mask.

She was perfectly legal at this game. This RO is the one that needs to be arrested.
Alecia Kitts Tased, Refused to Wear a Mask Due to Asthma


There is no rule in this case that applied because the family was together and no one was anywhere near them. Not in front on the bleachers, not behind them. Not beside them.

This officer is wrong! This was assault and battery and one could even make a case for kidnapping.
Lawriter - ORC - 2935.25 Power of arrest.
 

soggykitten

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Well the good news is Alecia Kitts wasn't shot in the head.
Though had that occurred I have no doubt there would be support for that assault as well.