On this Virus from China

[Nehemiah6]

CAN YOU BELIEVE W.H.O. ? WAS THAT "HUMAN ERROR" OR DELIBERATE MISDIRECTION?

This report is from Breitbart News:

World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus blamed “human error” on Wednesday for the United Nations agency initially downplaying the global threat of the deadly coronavirus.

WHO is walking back its assessment after publishing a report this week, in which it called the risk surrounding the killer Chinese illness “moderate.”

“WHO deeply regrets the error in this week’s situation report, which inserted the word ‘moderate’ inaccurately in the #coronavirus global risk assessment,” Ghebreyesus wrote on Twitter Wednesday. “This was a human error in preparing the report. I have repeatedly stated the high risk of the outbreak.” [ALREADY LYING]

The striking admission comes after Ghebreyesus met with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and praised the communist government’s measures against the killer virus.

Breitbart News reported:
Ghebreyesus said his organization is advising foreign countries that evacuating their citizens from Wuhan and the surrounding Hubei province is unnecessary. Chinese state media eagerly promoted his remarks in a bid to control the political fallout from the outbreak.

Foreign Minister Wang Yi acted quickly to capitalize politically on the WHO director’s comments. “With the strong leadership of comrade Xi Jinping and the advantage of the socialist system, as well as the experience from SARS, we are more resolute in tackling this epidemic with more forceful and quicker action. We are totally confident that we have the ability and resources to defeat this epidemic,” he said. [MORE BALONEY]

While the WHO has been quick to praise China over its handling of the coronavirus, Republican lawmakers such as Sens. Tom Cotton (R-AR) and Josh Hawley (R-MO) have expressed doubt about Beijing’s quarantine measures and transparency. In a Tuesday letter to top Trump administration officials, Cotton urged the federal government to institute a “target travel ban” on China.

“Given the latest developments and the many unknowns about this virus, we ought to follow Benjamin Franklin’s maxim: an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. America is blessed with world-leading researchers and laboratories on the cutting edge of medical science and epidemiology,” he wrote to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, and acting Homeland Security Director Chad Wolfe. “Working in tandem with them, I’m confident our federal research agencies can develop a vaccine in record time.”

The U.S. has expanded screenings to [ONLY] 20 airports around the country and CDC officials said they are racing to develop a vaccine to treat the virus.

United Airlines and American Airlines announced this week that the airlines have canceled several flights [NOT ALL FLIGHTS] from the U.S. to China [BUT NOT FROM CHINA TO THE US?], citing health concerns and a sharp decline in demand.

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020...an-error-calling-coronavirus-threat-moderate/

 

[EleventhHour]

You sound like an agent of the Chinese government (and they have a lot of them in the West).

The mayor of Wuhan has stated recently that the government was warned about this outbreak in December. As to the virus itself, you should be aware that China is at war with the West and America. While cyber warfare is one aspect of asymmetric warfare, biological warfare is another aspect. The Communist government of China would have no qualms about sacrificing a few million of their own people to test this virus (if indeed it is in their arsenal). One thing is for sure. The truth about anything will never emerge from China itself.

Mongolia has closed its border to China. Therefore all Western nations had a moral obligation to shut down all flights to and from China when the first reports appeared, and to also properly quarantine people traveling from there. None of that has happened. Now, the West is finally waking up. Always too little and too late.

It is far from too little too late.

 

[oldethennew]

there ain't no telling where "IT" came from, BUT, there ARE LOGICAL explanations,
But, it is CERTAIN that we cannot 'believe anything' that comes from 'main-stream-media',
it's like trusting a politician'...
any way,
better get your house in order, cause this is only the beginning of 'sorrows'...

 

[Nehemiah6]

It is far from too little too late.

Even the lying New York Times shows that it is too little too late.
More Than 7,700 Cases of Coronavirus Recorded Worldwide

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/29/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html

Another report said over 8,000. And let's not forget that in all such outbreaks all governments DELIBERATELY MISLEAD people because of their own culpability.

 

[laughingheart]

Even the lying New York Times shows that it is too little too late.
More Than 7,700 Cases of Coronavirus Recorded Worldwide

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/29/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html

Another report said over 8,000. And let's not forget that in all such outbreaks all governments DELIBERATELY MISLEAD people because of their own culpability.

My friend is related to a doctor in Wuhan and she said there are over 1,000 dead.

 

[EleventhHour]

Even the lying New York Times shows that it is too little too late.
More Than 7,700 Cases of Coronavirus Recorded Worldwide

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/29/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html

Another report said over 8,000. And let's not forget that in all such outbreaks all governments DELIBERATELY MISLEAD people because of their own culpability.

I am not stating we have all facts.....however the key numbers are the ability of the virus to spread and the fatality rate and who dies.

Maybe for China too little to late...however I think other developed countries can certainly stem the tide having more knowledge about the virus.

 

[EleventhHour]

My friend is related to a doctor in Wuhan and she said there are over 1,000 dead.

It will get a lot worse for China before it gets better..... H1N1 made almost 300,000 sick and about 3000 died according to official reports.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Maybe for China too little to late...however I think other developed countries can certainly stem the tide having more knowledge about the virus.

World Health Organisation Reverses Course, Declares Outbreak Of Coronavirus A Global Health Emergency

by Eric A. Blair January 30, 2020 105 Comments

The World Health Organization on Thursday reversed itself and declared the spread of the Wuhan coronavirus a global public health emergency, citing the potential of the virus to spread globally.

WHO officially declared the coronavirus, which already killed 171 in China, a “public health emergency of international concern” (PHEIC). The announcement came after criticism of the United Nations health agency’s decision last week not to declare the outbreak a PHEIC, even though the virus was spreading rapidly.

“Our greatest concern is the potential for the virus to spread to countries with weaker health systems and which are ill prepared to deal with it,” WHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said. “The vast majority of cases outside of China have a travel history to Wuhan or contact with someone with a travel history to Wuhan. We don’t know what sort of damage this virus could do if it were to spread to a country with a weaker health system.”

The virus has already spread to more than a dozen countries and the number of cases has risen more than tenfold in a week. There are more 8,000 cases in China now, and the virus has spread to 18 other countries. In the United States, doctors said Thursday that the first human-to-human transmission of the virus had occurred.

Said Tedros: “This declaration is not a vote of non-confidence in China. On the contrary, WHO continues to have the confidence in China’s capacity to control the outbreak,” the Associated Press reported. [MORE DOUBLE-TALK]

A declaration of a global emergency typically brings greater money and resources, but may also prompt nervous governments to restrict travel and trade to affected countries. The announcement also imposes more disease reporting requirements on countries.
In the wake of numerous airlines cancelling flights to China and businesses including Starbucks and McDonald’s temporarily closing hundreds of shops, Tedros said WHO was not recommending limiting travel or trade to China. [BACKTRACKING AGAIN] “There is no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade,” he said. [MORE NONSENSE]

Still, Russia announced it was closing its 2,600-mile border with China, joining Mongolia and North Korea in barring Chinese from crossing into their countries. [THE PROPER RESPONSE]

But WHO officials warned that drastic restrictions in travel and trade aren’t necessary. “Some countries have taken questionable measures concerning travellers,” said Didier Houssin, chairman of the WHO’s emergency committee. Those measures, he said, “should not constitute an example to follow.” [MORE DOUBLE TALK]

Dr. Jeremy Farrar, director of Britain’s Wellcome Trust, welcomed WHO’s emergency declaration, the AP reported. “This virus has spread at unprecedented scale and speed, with cases passing between people in multiple countries across the world,” he said in a statement. “It is also a stark reminder of how vulnerable we are to epidemics of infectious diseases known and unknown.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eak-of-coronavirus-a-global-health-emergency/

 

[EleventhHour]

World Health Organisation Reverses Course, Declares Outbreak Of Coronavirus A Global Health Emergency

by Eric A. Blair January 30, 2020 105 Comments

The World Health Organization on Thursday reversed itself and declared the spread of the Wuhan coronavirus a global public health emergency, citing the potential of the virus to spread globally.

WHO officially declared the coronavirus, which already killed 171 in China, a “public health emergency of international concern” (PHEIC). The announcement came after criticism of the United Nations health agency’s decision last week not to declare the outbreak a PHEIC, even though the virus was spreading rapidly.

“Our greatest concern is the potential for the virus to spread to countries with weaker health systems and which are ill prepared to deal with it,” WHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said. “The vast majority of cases outside of China have a travel history to Wuhan or contact with someone with a travel history to Wuhan. We don’t know what sort of damage this virus could do if it were to spread to a country with a weaker health system.”

The virus has already spread to more than a dozen countries and the number of cases has risen more than tenfold in a week. There are more 8,000 cases in China now, and the virus has spread to 18 other countries. In the United States, doctors said Thursday that the first human-to-human transmission of the virus had occurred.

Said Tedros: “This declaration is not a vote of non-confidence in China. On the contrary, WHO continues to have the confidence in China’s capacity to control the outbreak,” the Associated Press reported. [MORE DOUBLE-TALK]

A declaration of a global emergency typically brings greater money and resources, but may also prompt nervous governments to restrict travel and trade to affected countries. The announcement also imposes more disease reporting requirements on countries.
In the wake of numerous airlines cancelling flights to China and businesses including Starbucks and McDonald’s temporarily closing hundreds of shops, Tedros said WHO was not recommending limiting travel or trade to China. [BACKTRACKING AGAIN] “There is no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade,” he said. [MORE NONSENSE]

Still, Russia announced it was closing its 2,600-mile border with China, joining Mongolia and North Korea in barring Chinese from crossing into their countries. [THE PROPER RESPONSE]

But WHO officials warned that drastic restrictions in travel and trade aren’t necessary. “Some countries have taken questionable measures concerning travellers,” said Didier Houssin, chairman of the WHO’s emergency committee. Those measures, he said, “should not constitute an example to follow.” [MORE DOUBLE TALK]

Dr. Jeremy Farrar, director of Britain’s Wellcome Trust, welcomed WHO’s emergency declaration, the AP reported. “This virus has spread at unprecedented scale and speed, with cases passing between people in multiple countries across the world,” he said in a statement. “It is also a stark reminder of how vulnerable we are to epidemics of infectious diseases known and unknown.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...eak-of-coronavirus-a-global-health-emergency/

Already know about this. Thank you
This also occurred with H1N1.

 

[GaryA]

Okay, are we talking about the real world or The Matrix?

Well . . . Yes . . .

The Matrix is a kind of 'reflection' of reality.

In The Matrix, a small group (by comparison) of people are trying to 'save' all of the people of the world - all of which are, by default, their enemy - unless and until they are "unplugged" from the system (obtaining experiential knowledge of the true nature of their reality). And, even then, some of those never really understand - and, continue to act with the rest of the world as 'the enemy'.

All of the people they are trying to 'save' are severely deceived and are "clueless" concerning "the big picture" (most are not interested in knowing "the real truth") - whereby, their entire lives are being controlled by 'evil' beings (machines) in continual virtual warfare with those who are trying to 'save' the world population.

In the real world, a small group (by comparison) of people are trying to 'save' all of the people of the world - all of which are, by default, their enemy - unless and until they are "unplugged" from the system (obtaining experiential knowledge of the true nature of their reality). And, even then, some of those never really understand - and, continue to act with the rest of the world as 'the enemy'.

All of the people they are trying to 'save' are severely deceived and are "clueless" concerning "the big picture" (most are not interested in knowing "the real truth") - whereby, their entire lives are being controlled by 'evil' beings (devils/demons) in continual spiritual warfare with those who are trying to 'save' the world population.

Yes - very similar - wouldn't you say...?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

did anyone really doubt it was worse then they stated?

 

[EleventhHour]

Well . . . Yes . . .

The Matrix is a kind of 'reflection' of reality.

In The Matrix, a small group (by comparison) of people are trying to 'save' all of the people of the world - all of which are, by default, their enemy - unless and until they are "unplugged" from the system (obtaining experiential knowledge of the true nature of their reality). And, even then, some of those never really understand - and, continue to act with the rest of the world as 'the enemy'.

All of the people they are trying to 'save' are severely deceived and are "clueless" concerning "the big picture" (most are not interested in knowing "the real truth") - whereby, their entire lives are being controlled by 'evil' beings (machines) in continual virtual warfare with those who are trying to 'save' the world population.

In the real world, a small group (by comparison) of people are trying to 'save' all of the people of the world - all of which are, by default, their enemy - unless and until they are "unplugged" from the system (obtaining experiential knowledge of the true nature of their reality). And, even then, some of those never really understand - and, continue to act with the rest of the world as 'the enemy'.

All of the people they are trying to 'save' are severely deceived and are "clueless" concerning "the big picture" (most are not interested in knowing "the real truth") - whereby, their entire lives are being controlled by 'evil' beings (devils/demons) in continual spiritual warfare with those who are trying to 'save' the world population.

Yes - very similar - wouldn't you say...?

The Matrix... definitely reveals a lot

 

[tanakh]

This is spread via human to human contact at this point.

Some are guessing this came from the original sars virus from a bat mutating and jumping to another animal and then jumping to humans which can now be passed human to human.

However, with the close proximity of two Chinese labs where they work on (and potentially weaponize) viruses to the Wuhan market coupled with the 14 day incubation period wherein the disease can be spread (a wet dream for any government weaponizing any virus) there will be conspiracy theories concerning this.

To he honest, I'm not at all convinced this didn't come straight out of a Chinese lab... a one off mutation with these markers?

Yep, I'm personally going to have to be convinced at this point this was somehow a natural mutation....

I saw a Newspaper photograph of poor assorted wild creatures stuck in cages for sale in the place where this viruses said to have
started. The treatment of Animals in China is appalling unless its a Panda even then I have my suspicions. I have heard that
the sale of these wild animals has been banned. I hope this is true for the sake of the people there and the suffering creatures.

 

[Moses_Young]

You sound like an agent of the Chinese government (and they have a lot of them in the West).

Ha, ha. Nice try, but what Chinese agent would tell of the evils of Communism? I'm certainly no lover of the wicked regime in China, but the fear from this alleged virus is overhyped. I'm not saying there is no danger, nor even that people aren't dying. What I am saying is that this is a solution in need of a problem. The solution is travel bans and vaccinations, and possibly an excuse to disturb the financial system - the problem is this made-up virus. Remember the recent exposures of the WHO "experts" on the dangers of vaccination? Convenient this little international virus emergency then crops up to hide all the red faces of the so-called vaccine experts, doncha think?

The mayor of Wuhan has stated recently that the government was warned about this outbreak in December. As to the virus itself, you should be aware that China is at war with the West and America. While cyber warfare is one aspect of asymmetric warfare, biological warfare is another aspect. The Communist government of China would have no qualms about sacrificing a few million of their own people to test this virus (if indeed it is in their arsenal). One thing is for sure. The truth about anything will never emerge from China itself.

I agree the Chinese would have no qualms about sacrificing their own people. But we're losing the sight of the real issue in face of the alleged problem. Those who sacrifice freedom (e.g. travel) for security (e.g. safety from some boogey-man virus) will have neither.

Mongolia has closed its border to China. Therefore all Western nations had a moral obligation to shut down all flights to and from China when the first reports appeared, and to also properly quarantine people traveling from there. None of that has happened. Now, the West is finally waking up. Always too little and too late.

Bleh. I disagree. If the Western nations weren't cowtowing to the Communist liars, they would call China's bluff and tell them there is no virus, and to try harder next time. Then do some proper analysis on the bodies or the sick (if China can produce any), and prove that this is a toxin, or some biological agent, or possibly nothing at all. But we should never agree with the Communists about sacrificing freedom for security. It's not worth it.

 

[Billyd]

Has anyone looked at the worldwide economic cost of this virus?

A few thousand people are known to have it. A few hundred have died from it. The CDC says that we are just a few months away from a vaccine against it.

The virus resembles the flu and common cold virus. Both are much more widespread, and have killed many more people. In fact other than isolation, the hospital treatment plan is the same as for a severe flu or a severe cold. (make the patient comfortable and treat the symptoms)

Maybe the lesson that we take away from this whole incident is to always be prepared to treat patients who contract a communicable disease, and keep focus on developing vaccine technology that will allow rapid development of vaccines against them.

 

[EleventhHour]

Ha, ha. Nice try, but what Chinese agent would tell of the evils of Communism? I'm certainly no lover of the wicked regime in China, but the fear from this alleged virus is overhyped. I'm not saying there is no danger, nor even that people aren't dying. What I am saying is that this is a solution in need of a problem. The solution is travel bans and vaccinations, and possibly an excuse to disturb the financial system - the problem is this made-up virus. Remember the recent exposures of the WHO "experts" on the dangers of vaccination? Convenient this little international virus emergency then crops up to hide all the red faces of the so-called vaccine experts, doncha think?

I agree the Chinese would have no qualms about sacrificing their own people. But we're losing the sight of the real issue in face of the alleged problem. Those who sacrifice freedom (e.g. travel) for security (e.g. safety from some boogey-man virus) will have neither.

Bleh. I disagree. If the Western nations weren't cowtowing to the Communist liars, they would call China's bluff and tell them there is no virus, and to try harder next time. Then do some proper analysis on the bodies or the sick (if China can produce any), and prove that this is a toxin, or some biological agent, or possibly nothing at all. But we should never agree with the Communists about sacrificing freedom for security. It's not worth it.

China is an authoritarian state btw

 

[EleventhHour]

Has anyone looked at the worldwide economic cost of this virus?

A few thousand people are known to have it. A few hundred have died from it. The CDC says that we are just a few months away from a vaccine against it.

The virus resembles the flu and common cold virus. Both are much more widespread, and have killed many more people. In fact other than isolation, the hospital treatment plan is the same as for a severe flu or a severe cold. (make the patient comfortable and treat the symptoms)

Maybe the lesson that we take away from this whole incident is to always be prepared to treat patients who contract a communicable disease, and keep focus on developing vaccine technology that will allow rapid development of vaccines against them.

I agree about the flu being the source of many, many deaths each year.

Influenza and other such viruses like this new coronavirus have the most devastating effect on those with weakened immune systems due to age and health the main take away is stay healthy and avoid vaccines.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Bleh. I disagree. If the Western nations weren't cowtowing to the Communist liars, they would call China's bluff and tell them there is no virus, and to try harder next time. Then do some proper analysis on the bodies or the sick (if China can produce any), and prove that this is a toxin, or some biological agent, or possibly nothing at all. But we should never agree with the Communists about sacrificing freedom for security. It's not worth it.

truly bizarre

 

[KhedetOrthos]

Another of the fundamental principles of communism is control of all transport by the state. To my mind, it would be outrageous if the West shut down travel to and from China, based on unsubstantiated claims of a handful of deaths, pupportedly caused by a previously unknown virus. We all know China has a terrible track record on health and hygiene (amongst many other things). Far more likely the deaths (if any) are due to poor regulation of toxins in food, water or medicine, than some mysterious and dangerous virus.

Quarantine is a time tested way to try and keep rapidly spreading infections under control. The Chinese have already instituted aggressive quarantines on their population. Our unwillingness to shut down travel from hot zones is due to greed or political correctness and neither is a good reason to keep allowing flights from China to the US.

 

[EleventhHour]

Quarantine is a time tested way to try and keep rapidly spreading infections under control. The Chinese have already instituted aggressive quarantines on their population. Our unwillingness to shut down travel from hot zones is due to greed or political correctness and neither is a good reason to keep allowing flights from China to the US.

Canada has stopped all flights ...having said that you know commerce does feed people and it is not an easy thing to make decisions that so negatively impact an economy.

I think Trump is wise to keep a cool approach ...panic is never a good thing.