Persecution of Christians in Israel

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crossnote

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I guess you didn't read the article posted in the OP. For example, the government will not issue travel papers, or allow people into Jerusalem who are Palestinian Christians. They box people up in an area, and they are not allowed to travel, because the government has not given them the necessary documentation.

They are harassed by soldiers, who represent the government. Their land is confiscated by the government, forcing them to become refugees. They are unable to worship in the church of their choice, because the government will not allow them into the areas where the churches are.

"During our years of priesthood, we have paid visits to many Palestinian Christian political prisoners jailed in Israeli prisons, participated in funerals of Christians who have lost their lives in this bloody conflict, assisted families divided by the Israeli policy of stripping Palestinian residency rights, and lobbied on behalf of our parishioners whose property was confiscated by Israel.

In the West Bank Israel does not differentiate between Palestinian Christians and Muslims in its policies. Several studies have shown that the Israeli occupation and settlement activities are the main reason for Christian emigration.

These claims are not Palestinian “propaganda” but have been largely researched by the US government, the European Union and the United Nations. In fact, all the recent International Religious Freedom Reports published by the US Department of State highlight this issue.

To conclude, Palestinian Christians are not persecuted by Palestinian Muslims. The end of the Israeli occupation would allow all our people, Christians and Muslims, to develop all our potential living side by side."

The plight of Palestinian Christians - Opinion - Jerusalem Post

Interesting when you read the accounts of actual Palestinian Christians who live in Israel, it differs significantly from the reports of Christian Zionists and Jewish Israelis.

While I think the Jews need a homeland, they have been heavy handed about Palestinians, including Christians since Day 1 and I think people need to understand that this is not isolated, but systematic persecution by the Israeli government.

I wonder how many Americans/Canadians would be content to sit in an ethnic ghetto in their home towns, not be able to move about freely, to worship at the church of their choice, or even go to MacDonald's, which is barred because it is on the other side of an Israeli checkpoint that they do not have government permission to cross. Really, just being confined to a ghetto has shades of Nazi Germany and Poland as WWII approached, doesn't it?? Talk about learning from your oppressors!
Have you ever heard of Palestinian propaganda?
 

Angela53510

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Crossnote, these are Christians we are talking about. As for me, I base some of my information on the personal testimony of a friend who had to live in Bethlehem under these conditions. She was NOT part of any propaganda! Things were so bad for her, she and her Palestinian Christian husband and her son applied to immigrate to Australia, where she had relatives to sponsor her.

She was imprisoned in a very small area, just for the crime of being Palestinian, not because she had done anything wrong! The only propaganda is those who defend Israeli Jews without knowing the truth of terrible circumstances for the Christians today in Israel, who trace their lineage in the land to the time of Christ.
 

crossnote

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Crossnote, these are Christians we are talking about. As for me, I base some of my information on the personal testimony of a friend who had to live in Bethlehem under these conditions. She was NOT part of any propaganda! Things were so bad for her, she and her Palestinian Christian husband and her son applied to immigrate to Australia, where she had relatives to sponsor her.

She was imprisoned in a very small area, just for the crime of being Palestinian, not because she had done anything wrong! The only propaganda is those who defend Israeli Jews without knowing the truth of terrible circumstances for the Christians today in Israel, who trace their lineage in the land to the time of Christ.
Angela, your OP says "Persecution of Christians..." but now you state, "just for the crime of being Palestinian"...so which is it? Or is the main point to point out how terrible those Israelis are? It's funny how most Arabs in Israel don't want to be under rule of Hamas or the PLO.
As I said persecutions of Christians is something promised us (our birthright) and no, Israel is not blameless in this matter but I'm still confused why she is usually singled out when her persecution hardly reaches 1/4 the level of many Islamic countries.


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jahsoul

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Have you ever heard of Palestinian propaganda?
To be honest, propaganda is everywhere. Some here just pick and choose which is good for consumption.
 

tribesman

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Angela, your OP says "Persecution of Christians..." but now you state, "just for the crime of being Palestinian"...so which is it?...
This is for Angela to answer, but will just make the input that all palestinians or palestine-arabs are not muslims, quite a few are christians. It is most likely those Angela speaks of.
 

Angela53510

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Angela, your OP says "Persecution of Christians..." but now you state, "just for the crime of being Palestinian"...so which is it?
Well, obviously I am speaking of Palestinian Christians. The ones being persecuted. It seems like the authorities in Israel do not look at faith, merely ethnic origin. So it is CHRISTIANS who are being persecuted, and they happen to be Arabs, or Palestinians.

The systematic persecution of Christians, on the basis of their ethnicity is what is happening in Israel today. As for those Christians elsewhere, especially in countries where Christians are being murdered is something we all need to pray about, both for the persecuted and the persecutors.

But that does not mean we should give Israel a free pass with regards to its treatment of our brothers and sisters! It is only a small step from ghettos to death, as the Jews themselves should know!

On the other hand, Israel welcomes western Christians as tourists and for the support they give to Israel especially with the current changes in the American policies towards Israel. It is ironic that on one hand, Christians are being discriminated against in Israel, simply on the basis of ethnicity, while on the other hand, western Christians, especially Americans are welcomed for their money!

We need to be aware of persecution in all the countries of the world, and to pray, and if possible, work towards the release of Christians in places like China, North Korea, and of course in the areas of the Arab world where Christians are being persecuted.
And that includes Israel, which treats its Palestinian Christians as threats, instead of productive God-fearing citizens.
 
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Well, obviously I am speaking of Palestinian Christians. The ones being persecuted. It seems like the authorities in Israel do not look at faith, merely ethnic origin. So it is CHRISTIANS who are being persecuted, and they happen to be Arabs, or Palestinians.

The systematic persecution of Christians, on the basis of their ethnicity is what is happening in Israel today. As for those Christians elsewhere, especially in countries where Christians are being murdered is something we all need to pray about, both for the persecuted and the persecutors.

But that does not mean we should give Israel a free pass with regards to its treatment of our brothers and sisters! It is only a small step from ghettos to death, as the Jews themselves should know!

On the other hand, Israel welcomes western Christians as tourists and for the support they give to Israel especially with the current changes in the American policies towards Israel. It is ironic that on one hand, Christians are being discriminated against in Israel, simply on the basis of ethnicity, while on the other hand, western Christians, especially Americans are welcomed for their money!

We need to be aware of persecution in all the countries of the world, and to pray, and if possible, work towards the release of Christians in places like China, North Korea, and of course in the areas of the Arab world where Christians are being persecuted.
And that includes Israel, which treats its Palestinian Christians as threats, instead of productive God-fearing citizens.
Pray for the release of Palestinians out of Israel? Israel has been trying to get them to leave for years! ROFL! :p;)
 

crossnote

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I actually went to the web site posted on the OP. It reads like typical left wing political propaganda that we read here in the States put out by the Liberal Churches. When it comes to the Christian Faith it only holds the trappings of religion, otherwise a political entity hiding behind priestly garb.
 

Agricola

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So What does Israeli Government do against CHristians? Is there a law against Christians?
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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the title of this thread is misleading...what is being described is not systematic persecution of christians...nobody is being targeted for being christian...

what is being described is various difficulties faced by palestinian arabs...including the small percentage of palestinian arab christians...due to the israeli government's anti terrorist measures against the general population of palestinian arabs who overwhelmingly elected a terrorist organization the last time they had an election...

a more accurate title for the thread would have been something like...'palestinian arab christians suffering under israeli anti terrorist measures'
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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also for the sake of making all of the facts available...and for some reason it is always very unpopular to point this out but...

many of these palestinian 'christians' and many middle eastern christians in general are christian in name only...this is not a problem exclusive to the western church...although for some reason it is highly politically incorrect to say this about anyone outside the west...

in many parts of the arab christian world...'christ' is preached as little more than a rallying figure for cultural unity...within of course the confines of arab nationalism...
 

p_rehbein

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the title of this thread is misleading...what is being described is not systematic persecution of christians...nobody is being targeted for being christian...

what is being described is various difficulties faced by palestinian arabs...including the small percentage of palestinian arab christians...due to the israeli government's anti terrorist measures against the general population of palestinian arabs who overwhelmingly elected a terrorist organization the last time they had an election...

a more accurate title for the thread would have been something like...'palestinian arab christians suffering under israeli anti terrorist measures'

As I have stated earlier...........my concern is not the Palestine subject, rather those Christians in Israel who face persecution from the Jews. And I assure you they ARE BEING TARGETED for being Christian. Just saying...........
 

crossnote

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As I have stated earlier...........my concern is not the Palestine subject, rather those Christians in Israel who face persecution from the Jews. And I assure you they ARE BEING TARGETED for being Christian. Just saying...........
Can you give some specifics?
 
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And here is the face of Christian persecution....If the photo is too offensive for this site I understand if it is removed.


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JonahLynx

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It pains me when people minimize the sufferings of Christians in Israel, because of favoritism for the Jews, who are not Christians and may never be! Dispensationalism aside, of course!
Yes, their hatred for Palestinians outweighs their love for our own brothers and sisters.
 
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I actually went to the web site posted on the OP. It reads like typical left wing political propaganda that we read here in the States put out by the Liberal Churches. When it comes to the Christian Faith it only holds the trappings of religion, otherwise a political entity hiding behind priestly garb.
Pray for the release of Palestinians out of Israel? Israel has been trying to get them to leave for years! ROFL! :p;)
So What does Israeli Government do against CHristians? Is there a law against Christians?
well, IF the 'christians' in palestine are like most in other countries, then they are the enemy of God and of Israel and of all men everywhere.

the children of yahweh(by faith in yahshua in grace) are specifically targeted by most governments, and especially most religious governments, and especially the biggest heresy on earth called 'christian',
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that is exactly what GOD'S WORD says will happen all along -- so it is.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Have you ever heard of Palestinian propaganda?
As she is spreading it through this thread, I'd be surprised if she is not 1) naïve regarding legitimate news sources vs. those with a deliberate slant, or 2) a Palestinian propagandist, whether wittingly or unwittingly, herself.

As Kayla pointed out with this post ...
And here is the face of Christian persecution....If the photo is too offensive for this site I understand if it is removed.


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... that is real persecution. This isn't happening in Israel to Palestiniana Christians. Israel isn't doing this to anyone. Christians doing this to anyone anywhere in the world. Acts such as these are the sole purview of Islamist terrorists.

 
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Agricola

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As I have stated earlier...........my concern is not the Palestine subject, rather those Christians in Israel who face persecution from the Jews. And I assure you they ARE BEING TARGETED for being Christian. Just saying...........
You get that in every culture to ethnic minorities, you will see blacks being target and killed for just being black, Asians having doors sprayed with swastikas and "Paki" written on the house etc. Yes a few Jews hate Christians, but that is life, it is not the Israeli government who are doing this, unlike all Islamic countries and areas such as Gaza who are ruled by Muslims and have laws to make Christians life hell.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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As I have stated earlier...........my concern is not the Palestine subject, rather those Christians in Israel who face persecution from the Jews. And I assure you they ARE BEING TARGETED for being Christian. Just saying...........
i was referring specifically to the cases described in this thread...as i mentioned it is misleading to refer to these cases as 'persecution of christians'