PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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gb9

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You need to learn a little about the differences between RNA and DNA. The vaccines do exactly what vaccines have always done. They trick the immune system into producing antibodies against the real thing. Genes are not modified. It's just a different method of achieving the same result. I'm happy about that. The last flu shot I had was decades ago. It was a killed virus vaccine. I was as sick as if it were the real flu. It me months to decide to get the COVID jab. Side effects were minimal and I'm exactly the same person as I was before I had the jab.

"There is a crucial difference between mRNA and DNA.

DNA, which makes up our genetic code, is larger, double stranded and very long. The mRNA is a single stranded copy of a small part of the DNA, which is often released to send instructions to other parts of the cell.

DNA is stored in the protected centre of our cells – the nucleus. The mRNA is broken down quickly by the body. It never enters the nucleus, and cannot affect or combine with our DNA in any way to change our genetic code.

Instead, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines teach the cell how to make a protein that triggers an immune response specific to COVID-19. The vaccines work with the body’s natural defences to develop immunity to disease."

Source: Australian Government department of Health

the same australian gov. that locks it's people in their homes, and has them arrested and at times beaten by cops if they do not comply.

i cannot say on a Christian website what i think of the aussie gov.
 
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SophieT

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You need to learn a little about the differences between RNA and DNA. The vaccines do exactly what vaccines have always done. They trick the immune system into producing antibodies against the real thing. Genes are not modified. It's just a different method of achieving the same result. I'm happy about that. The last flu shot I had was decades ago. It was a killed virus vaccine. I was as sick as if it were the real flu. It me months to decide to get the COVID jab. Side effects were minimal and I'm exactly the same person as I was before I had the jab.

"There is a crucial difference between mRNA and DNA.

DNA, which makes up our genetic code, is larger, double stranded and very long. The mRNA is a single stranded copy of a small part of the DNA, which is often released to send instructions to other parts of the cell.

DNA is stored in the protected centre of our cells – the nucleus. The mRNA is broken down quickly by the body. It never enters the nucleus, and cannot affect or combine with our DNA in any way to change our genetic code.

Instead, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines teach the cell how to make a protein that triggers an immune response specific to COVID-19. The vaccines work with the body’s natural defences to develop immunity to disease."

Source: Australian Government department of Health
maybe it's just me, but when someone I really do not know starts off with 'You need to ...." I fully expect some pompous instructions that may very well be an illustration of their own need to ...." so tell the Australian Gov Dept of health no thank you.

I understand you are a proponent of the experimental gene therapy and wish to cancel any reason to fear what your government is broadcasting
 
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SophieT

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the same australian gov. that locks it's people in their homes, and has them arrested and at times beaten by cops if they do not comply.

i cannot say on a Christian website what i think of the aussie gov.
some parts of Australia are now under martial law
 

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This short film is made from the testimonies that the injured shared on social media trying to raise awareness their plight.
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I did see this nurse interviewed with two other nurses experiencing the same effects. They were on a stage being interviewed by some guy. They still were having tremors not as bad as you see here. I sure wouldn't say they were better though. They're no longer working and even workman's comp wouldn't back them up. They acknowledged at least one did that they've known hundreds who have taken the vaccine and no problem but they feel the system threw them under the bus, and forsook them. Wherever they try to tell their stories facebook etc banned or deleted immediately. Local TV news stations said they'd do their story....backed out and wouldn't contact them again. Even if the majority of individuals don't experience this who take the vaccines (as one of the nurses even acknowledged as being true from her observations as she said she's known hundreds with no problems) they should NEVER, EVER have been treated the way they have. I think the thing is though.....many vaccinated just won't watch videos like this.....when people don't want something like this considered to be possible there's no end to how far they'll go into denial. I can only hope some here would listen to her story no matter how you feel about vaccines.
 

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WOW: Study Finds Fully Vaccinated Individuals 27 Times More Likely to Develop COVID

Since COVID burst onto the scene like a Vegas showgirl, the media cannot stop talking about it and whipping the nation into a frenzy. The news is constantly updating the COVID cases and makes sure to bring the most horrifying COVID stories of all to terrify people into hiding inside. If anyone knows a thing about immune systems you have to exercise them and gain exposure to illnesses in order to combat them. If you only stay inside, wash your hands all the time and steer away from others, your immune system does go down and becomes weak.
So what then happens is that when you DO come into contact with someone who has COVID or anything else you end up getting it. It is just how the body is set up.

So many are not aware of how the body works or how immunity is obtained and truly believe that the only way anyone is immune to an illness is through a vaccine.
What makes that worse is that Joe Biden, his administration, and the mainstream media are constantly denying natural immunity which is a total lie.

Hundreds of millions of people around the globe contracted and subsequently recovered from COVID-19.

Some had a mild case and yes, there were others who had it even worse.

That is how sickness works and will always work this way especially if it is something that our bodies are not used to. In time, we as a society will gain herd immunity to the virus and it will always be around but not to the extent it was right at the beginning.
Now, what these people have is natural immunity to the virus and numerous studies have shown that natural immunity from COVID-19 is long-lasting.

Not only is it long-lasting, but it works far better than Big Pharma’s experimental injections.

However, many “experts” continue to deny natural immunity is a thing.

It appears they’re thinking with their wallets instead of their brains or common sense.

Fraudci had this ridiculous answer when asked about natural immunity:

He’s simply protecting his profits and the bottom lines of his Big Pharma buddies.


Unsurprisingly, another study has shredded “experts” who claim there is no evidence of natural immunity.
This latest report comes from Israel, one of the world’s most vaccinated countries.
SHOCK STUDY! VACCINATED 27 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO CATCH COVID

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Since most of our Vaccinations were done by the end of May we should see the same results here in the US by the end of November. Seems like a very reasonable thing to wait two months before getting the vaccine to see if I see the same thing here in the US. No doubt other countries will be trying to replicate these studies so over the next two months there should be a lot of studies that either confirm or challenge these results.

So then what's the hurry? Take a deep breath, take a step back, and let's see what happens with all those who have already been vaccinated. It is a rare thing to be able to have clinical trials on hundreds of millions of humans before doing animal studies, but in the end this will be the best data to tell the rest of us if it is safe.
 

Solemateleft

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Natural immunity occurs by catching the disease. The catch is that catching the disease may kill you. "Study finds". How often lies and half and part truths masquerade as studies. This is another example.
Yes, I completely understand... I am a senior Operations Research Analyst for DoD, so I completely understand the nature of studies and even have the Book "How to Lie with Statistics"...

It is even more interesting that the MOST Significant Measure of Effectiveness is actually the Mortality RATE and Survivability RATE and NOT the DEATH Count... That raw Data Report can be very Mis-Leading to the average reader... It is unfortunate that the CDC seems to go out of their way to either shield or hide the actual Mortality RATE and Survivability RATE... In the past for those of us who understood what we were looking for we could search and find the death rate data PER 100,000 by State and Country... Hmmm, unfortunately those statistics do not appear readily available at the moment...

Sooo, based upon the survivability rate (see below) I'm most certainly willing to take the RISK as in addition to the 99% survivability rate I believe I have a NATURAL NATURAL IMMUNITY (I haven't been sick in over FIVE years, have been exposed to College Kids since CV19 Springbreaks of 2020) suspect it has to do with being 0+ blood type and in good health, good diet, and Blessed... I also have a natural Immunity to Propaganda...

So here is a good neutral Statista site... To illustrate what Death Rate and Survivability Rates actually look like...
Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States as of September 20, 2021, by state

COVID-19 death rates in the United States as of September 20, 2021, by state
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John Elflein



, Sep 20, 2021
As of September 20, 2021, there have been 673,765 deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States. The death rate from COVID-19 in the state of New York is 282 per 100,000 people. New York is also one of the states with the highest number of COVID-19 cases.


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This spreadsheet tally shows the Mortality and Surivability Rates (per 100,000) for the top 15 states shown above... Also shows that in 2019 that the TOTAL US MORTALITY RATE was .87% before CV19...
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Nehemiah6

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Yes, I completely understand... I am a senior Operations Research Analyst for DoD, so I completely understand the nature of studies and even have the Book "How to Lie with Statistics"...

It is even more interesting that the MOST Significant Measure of Effectiveness is actually the Mortality RATE and Survivability RATE and NOT the DEATH Count... That raw Data Report can be very Mis-Leading to the average reader... It is unfortunate that the CDC seems to go out of their way to either shield or hide the actual Mortality RATE and Survivability RATE... In the past for those of us who understood what we were looking for we could search and find the death rate data PER 100,000 by State and Country... Hmmm, unfortunately those statistics do not appear readily available at the moment...

Sooo, based upon the survivability rate (see below) I'm most certainly willing to take the RISK as in addition to the 99% survivability rate I believe I have a NATURAL NATURAL IMMUNITY (I haven't been sick in over FIVE years, have been exposed to College Kids since CV19 Springbreaks of 2020) suspect it has to do with being 0+ blood type and in good health, good diet, and Blessed... I also have a natural Immunity to Propaganda...

So here is a good neutral Statista site... To illustrate what Death Rate and Survivability Rates actually look like...
Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States as of September 20, 2021, by state

COVID-19 death rates in the United States as of September 20, 2021, by state
Published by
John Elflein



, Sep 20, 2021
As of September 20, 2021, there have been 673,765 deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States. The death rate from COVID-19 in the state of New York is 282 per 100,000 people. New York is also one of the states with the highest number of COVID-19 cases.


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This spreadsheet tally shows the Mortality and Surivability Rates (per 100,000) for the top 15 states shown above... Also shows that in 2019 that the TOTAL US MORTALITY RATE was .87% before CV19...
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Since at least 30-50% of those numbers are because of over-reporting, people should cut those numbers by half. Which means there was no pandemic.
 

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the same australian gov. that locks it's people in their homes, and has them arrested and at times beaten by cops if they do not comply.

i cannot say on a Christian website what i think of the aussie gov.
Tucker Carlson last night talked about Australian politicians calling in the military to enforce their totalitarian covid restrictions and he mentioned that Sydney Australia is under martial law. (I shared this video on a different Christian forum site and someone from Australia who agreed with the video sarcastically said, "Shhh its not called martial law here its called a lockdown to stop the spread..."

Tucker also mentioned that the government and media in Australia is saying the real threat in Australia is white supremacy. Really? White supremacy? That sounds very familiar with the propaganda in America. This really isn't about covid or racism. It's about POWER! Watch starting from 2 minutes and 12 seconds to just under 3 minutes into the video below.

 

Smoke

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No true American has a Cornish game hen on Thanksgiving!

On top of that she’s exactly right. Read it a weep.

Scanning & Transmission Electron Microscopy Reveals Graphene Oxide in CoV-19 Vaccines
https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/...opy-reveals-graphene-oxide-in-cov-19-vaccines
Yikes, I can't believe I read page after page of the supposed findings only to read that they don't believe covid-19 is even real. The belief is that it does not even exist... Okay buddy...
 

PennEd

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Yikes, I can't believe I read page after page of the supposed findings only to read that they don't believe covid-19 is even real. The belief is that it does not even exist... Okay buddy...
What the heck does that have to do with the research showing that graphene oxide is in the vaccines?
 
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SophieT

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Tucker also mentioned that the government and media in Australia is saying the real threat in Australia is white supremacy. Really? White supremacy? That sounds very familiar with the propaganda in America. This really isn't about covid or racism. It's about POWER! Watch starting from 2 minutes and 12 seconds to just under 3 minutes into the video below.
yup

didn't watch the whole show, but did hear that remark about white supremacy

now we seem to have global talking points and not just leftist talking points

and yes, definitely all about power. they are incited by spiritual forces they do not understand and those forces are also all about power, wanting it and getting it
 

Solemateleft

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Debunked

We both agree Dr. Fauci is a liar, nevertheless, there is no evidence he said this. Maybe the fact checker is wrong and you can fact check the fact checker and show us a legitimate source that proves Fauci made this particular lie.
Fair enough...
This was merely a repost if an individual's clever interpretation of the body confounding messaging from Fauci and the left ...
The one thing that is ironic and yet consistent is the Lefts pension for double standards as it pertains to misrepresentation of what people may or may not have said or inferred...
The one thing that is consistent with the Left/MSM Propoganda machine is...
If it weren't for double standards, they would have no standards what so ever...
 

Smoke

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What the heck does that have to do with the research showing that graphene oxide is in the vaccines?
You mean other than the fact is was a part of his article/the article you posted?

I mean, if a flat earther wants to explain the moon to you, do you think he will have any credibility whatsoever? Do you believe covid-19 is a fake virus?
 

PennEd

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You mean other than the fact is was a part of his article/the article you posted?

I mean, if a flat earther wants to explain the moon to you, do you think he will have any credibility whatsoever? Do you believe covid-19 is a fake virus?
This is classic "I don't like the message, so I'll attack the messenger, REGARDLESS if his info is verifiable or not".
 

ZNP

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This is classic "I don't like the message, so I'll attack the messenger, REGARDLESS if his info is verifiable or not".
That is the problem with trying to hold down the truth in unrighteousness, it is like being on a melting iceberg, keeps getting smaller and smaller.
 

Smoke

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This is classic "I don't like the message, so I'll attack the messenger, REGARDLESS if his info is verifiable or not".
It should be "classic" to look at the person's credibility over a topic before you accept whatever his findings are on the related topic. However, you're mistaking "attacking" for stating facts. I factually brought up that he thinks the covid-19 is a fake virus... that it doesn't exist.

In your echo chamber, this is surely an attack. But if you read your own article, he admits it in clear black and white. I would say most anti-vaxxers at this point believe covid-19 is real, albeit created in a lab (there is plenty of evidence for this at least). Excuse those who question his credibility when speaking about a vaccine for a virus he believes is non-existent... You are free to believe whatever you want, but don't accuse me of attacking him for choosing not drink his Kool-Aid or for pointing out facts.
 
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