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JohnDB

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Ohhh, you are thinking of

Proverbs 2:
12 Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men,
from men whose words are perverse,
13 who have left the straight paths
to walk in dark ways,
14 who delight in doing wrong
and rejoice in the perverseness of evil,
15 whose paths are crooked

and who are devious in their ways.

These people who design these mRNA vaccines and bioweapons, these sorcerers are wicked men. And you are comparing your accusation of blasphemy concerning those who don't get the vaccine to Jezebel's accusation that Naboth was guilty of blasphemy!
I wasn't thinking of those verses either...

But...in the meantime what do you think is the definition of "blasphemy of the holy spirit"?
 

Genipher

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I wasn't thinking of those verses either...

But...in the meantime what do you think is the definition of "blasphemy of the holy spirit"?
Dictionary says blasphemy is "to speak irreverently"

The Greek word blasphemy means "vilification".
Blaspheme in Greek is to "vilify" or "speak impiously"

Neither of those has ANYTHING to do with refusing a sketchy, experimental "vaccine".
 

ZNP

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I wasn't thinking of those verses either...
How could I be so blind, obviously you were thinking of this

Proverbs 3:30 Do not accuse anyone for no reason—when they have done you no harm.

Accusing Christians who have done you no harm of blaspheming God! How could I have missed this!

31 Do not envy the violent or choose any of their ways.


Duh! A bioweapon is obviously one of the ways of the violent. Get the shot or lose your job is obviously the mantra of the violent.

32 For the Lord detests the perverse but takes the upright into his confidence.


Fauci has acted perversely, I don't want to list all the ways here but lies, deceit, forbidding the use of effective treatments, in many ways he has been perverse.

33 The Lord’s curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous.

All this ridiculous claims about unvaccinated endangering the vaccinated, it is a pathetic attempt to deflect the real cause that their house is cursed, it is because they are wicked.

34 He mocks proud mockers but shows favor to the humble and oppressed.

Yes, Biden was a proud mocker claiming he would eliminate Covid because he respects the science. God is mocking him.

35 The wise inherit honor, but fools get only shame.


Thank you Lord. The beginning of wisdom is to fear the Lord.

But...in the meantime what do you think is the definition of "blasphemy of the holy spirit"?
Blasphemy --
  1. Contemptuous or profane speech or action concerning God or a sacred entity.
Governor Hochul's speech was profane concerning God
  1. An instance of this.
Jezebel's accusation of Naboth being guilty of blasphemy was, ironically an example of blasphemy.
  1. Irreverent or impious action or expression in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosanct.
The blood of Jesus is sacrosanct. To create your own "blood" with your phony salvation is an impious action.
 

ZNP

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Dictionary says blasphemy is "to speak irreverently"

The Greek word blasphemy means "vilification".
Blaspheme in Greek is to "vilify" or "speak impiously"

Neither of those has ANYTHING to do with refusing a sketchy, experimental "vaccine".
True but it does have a lot to do with falsely accusing believers of being blasphemous by not worshipping the Sorcerers of genetic engineering.
 

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How could I be so blind, obviously you were thinking of this

Proverbs 3:30 Do not accuse anyone for no reason—when they have done you no harm.

Accusing Christians who have done you no harm of blaspheming God! How could I have missed this!

31 Do not envy the violent or choose any of their ways.

Duh! A bioweapon is obviously one of the ways of the violent. Get the shot or lose your job is obviously the mantra of the violent.

32 For the Lord detests the perverse but takes the upright into his confidence.

Fauci has acted perversely, I don't want to list all the ways here but lies, deceit, forbidding the use of effective treatments, in many ways he has been perverse.

33 The Lord’s curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous.

All this ridiculous claims about unvaccinated endangering the vaccinated, it is a pathetic attempt to deflect the real cause that their house is cursed, it is because they are wicked.

34 He mocks proud mockers but shows favor to the humble and oppressed.

Yes, Biden was a proud mocker claiming he would eliminate Covid because he respects the science. God is mocking him.

35 The wise inherit honor, but fools get only shame.

Thank you Lord. The beginning of wisdom is to fear the Lord.


Blasphemy --
  1. Contemptuous or profane speech or action concerning God or a sacred entity.
Governor Hochul's speech was profane concerning God
  1. An instance of this.
Jezebel's accusation of Naboth being guilty of blasphemy was, ironically an example of blasphemy.
  1. Irreverent or impious action or expression in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosanct.
The blood of Jesus is sacrosanct. To create your own "blood" with your phony salvation is an impious action.
All of this is way outside of the context Jesus mentioned that this was the unforgivable sin.

Maybe you should start there instead of Webster's dictionary.
 

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All of this is way outside of the context Jesus mentioned that this was the unforgivable sin.

Maybe you should start there instead of Webster's dictionary.
Maybe you should tell us the basis on which you have accused believers of being blasphemous!
 

Genipher

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But...in the meantime what do you think is the definition of "blasphemy of the holy spirit"?

All of this is way outside of the context Jesus mentioned that this was the unforgivable sin.

Maybe you should start there instead of Webster's dictionary.
YOU asked for the definition. 😆

According to Websters AND the Strongs Concordance, which gives clarity on the Greek word "blasphemy", we can clearly see that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is "to speak impiously or irreverently of the Holy Spirit" which, again, has ZERO to do with a vaccine.
 

ZNP

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All of this is way outside of the context Jesus mentioned that this was the unforgivable sin.

Maybe you should start there instead of Webster's dictionary.
It is like deep darkness trying to discern what you meant or to get you to just answer a simple question. That's it! Proverbs 4!

19 But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know what makes them stumble.
 
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If you haven't gotten vaccinated yet...
You aren't likely going to.
And where the antivaxxers are definitely in spiritual trouble with blasphemy of the Holy Spirit the pro vaxxers mostly don't know Jesus...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/28/unv...boosters-proves-covid-vaccines-dont-work.html
let's deal with the link in this post first. we'll talk about your flippant attitude towards the Holy Spirit and believers afterwards

here is a quote from that link:

The divide in attitudes on Covid-19 vaccines between people who have or haven’t gotten the shots hasn’t changed with the introduction of booster shots.

In fact, vaccinated people say the third dose approved by U.S. regulators last week shows that scientists are trying to make the shots more effective while 71% of unvaccinated Americans say it’s proof the vaccines don’t work, according to a survey released Tuesday by the Kaiser Family Foundation.
Nearly 80% of vaccinated respondents see booster shots as a good sign.



this is a bunch of nonsense...whoever Nate Rattner is, he makes some sweeping statement offering no proof and writes to a captive audience...aka those who already have swallowed the lies of the left, whole, with no gravy to help wash them down.

Boosters have NOT been approved for the general populace; in fact,
FDA advisers vote not to recommend Pfizer booster shots for most Americans
  • Vote may be significant blow to Biden administration
ok Johnny. how about you read the truth and back it up a bit. your President, baby boy Biden jumped the gun on that one...just like his sweeping aside THREE generals and doing whatever the voices in his head told him to do with regards to Afghanistan. but then that is pretty much the story of Biden's life. make lousy decisions, be at opposing sides of the truth and brag about what a good job you have done while people run after him trying to do damage control

Is the truth in you Johnny? then understand that MOST people should NOT get a booster and the vaccine invasions should not have been given only 3 weeks apart, but rather several months apart.

in fact, the d** vaccines do NOT work. they were supposed to keep a person from getting covid but it seems when they are not killing or maiming someone, the may make the covid virus you still get, a little less painful.

In fact, vaccinated people say .....what vaccinated people? quote polls...quote a survey...nope...nothing but words which describes the entire article. words of no substance

who believes junk like that? people who want to appear educated in their own eyes...not understanding what a junk piece this article is. no actual journalist would write junk like that, with the opposite being said even on mainstream media...even the left is catching on because it is the only real news in town

you think what you want. continue to rely on scrap pieces of scribbling, but don't whine later on when everything you have posted about from the left, is buried with the mess that is going to be caused by the covid experimental vaccine...it's already happening, but not enough for everyone to get up on their kitchen table and scream at the lie they have swallowed. give it time

your pal Nate just made stuff up. and you thought enough of it to post his lies here
 

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Yeah again it's a SARS virus. SARS vaccine technology is decades old so this makes about as much sense as saying they just invented cars yesterday
 
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2Ti 2:25
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; I wonder,, I wonder why people don't notice there seems to be nobody in office.
 
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And where the antivaxxers are definitely in spiritual trouble with blasphemy of the Holy Spirit the pro vaxxers mostly don't know Jesus...
and now for the cherry on top

so it seems you might be following the new gov of NYC, Hochul, as your cult leader. she will tell you that God is displeased with those who have not given their arm to the experiment. she would have you wear a 'vaxed' necklace around your neck the way many might wear a crucifix to show they believe in Jesus

this is an anti-Christ spirit and at this point, if people are believing this ... demonic priestess...then they are signing on to spiritual deception and barring God's intervention, they have chosen

for you, dear Johnny, to actually state something as troubling as you think those who have refused the vaccine are committing blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, indicates you need a transfusion of Holy Spirit power and truth

neither you nor the big bear are worth the time it takes to respond to, but in lieu of the statement regarding the Holy Spirit and connecting Him to OTHER BELIEVERS and saying they are committing blasphemy by not bowing to the satanic forces in the White House, I decided it was worth the time to respond and refute what you are saying

you obviously believe this and one day you will betray believers if you keep on this road. actually, you are pretty much doing that now with what you have said
 

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Branding....
When you brand something as evil or bad or worthless but it in all reality is good...that's Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. An unforgivable sin.

That's why certain bad names you called someone or something in the ANE would get you hauled before the Sanhedrin for your crime. But even a mild friendly rebuke of name-calling Jesus said that you were in danger of hellfire.

The results are in... clearly the mRNA vaccines have helped and been helping millions of people avoid this virus. No matter the hysteria and propaganda...they keep people from dying or getting disabled. However the placebo effects of telling people that these vaccines will kill them is blatant murder.
 

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Branding....
When you brand something as evil or bad or worthless but it in all reality is good...that's Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. An unforgivable sin.

That's why certain bad names you called someone or something in the ANE would get you hauled before the Sanhedrin for your crime. But even a mild friendly rebuke of name-calling Jesus said that you were in danger of hellfire.

The results are in... clearly the mRNA vaccines have helped and been helping millions of people avoid this virus. No matter the hysteria and propaganda...they keep people from dying or getting disabled. However the placebo effects of telling people that these vaccines will kill them is blatant murder.
No. "Branding" is not blasphemy. Speaking irreverently of the Holy Spirit is blasphemy.
 
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Not that it changes your nonsensical theories, but this is my fourth year flu free. And what difference would it make to you whether I mentioned I turned it over to God. Unless I missed something in what you said, I can't remember you once putting God into the equation as it relates to the flu or shots so I put it in terms that more related to what you have been touting.
I can't even remember when I had any sort of flu it's so far back and I do not get any flu shots. they are not ever going to protect you from the newest ones anyway and they are NEVER going to be 100% effective. the efficacy on ANY or most years, averages out to between 30 - 40% and might hit 60% in a good year

here is an article from WebMD

Sept. 2, 2020 -- Every year since 2010, the CDC has urged almost all Americans over 6 months old to get a flu shot. And every year we fall far short -- just half of us got vaccinated during the 2018-19 season. One reason: Some people believe the shot just doesn’t work.

Because flu viruses mutate constantly and the vaccine wears off over time, you can’t get vaccinated once and expect to be covered for years, as you can with other diseases. The vaccine must be changed each year, in hopes of matching the ever-mutating viruses. And that’s been a challenge. On average, it’s been 40% effective, meaning it’s prevented illness 40% of the time. Since health officials started tracking it in 2003, effectiveness has varied from year to year, ranging from a low of 10% in 2004-05 to a high of 60% in 2010-11.

Here’s what makes it so difficult. There’s no single flu virus. It comes in several strains, the two most common being A and B. The A strain, the more dangerous of the two, has two subtypes that spread regularly among humans: A(H1N1) and A(H3N2). And the B strain, which tends to cause a milder illness, gets classified into two lines. From there, each one branches out further as new mutations occur.

now reading all of the above and what follows in the article, almost sound sensible. I really don't read it that way.....now that we are in the middle of this (cough cough) pandemic, it seems we have always been in the middle of some experiment....the vaccine being used was NOT ready for employment but the companies, Pfizer et al, JUMPED at the chance to use the tech they have been playing with for some years and see how it works in the real world

God help us

I replied to your post because it seems you are new voice of reason in this tumultuous thread...not because I am trying to convince you of something...sounds like you are already convinced anyway ;)
 

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I have no idea who that is... don't care either.
Oh, she's the new governor of New York who is, in her words, sending out apostles to convince people to get vaccinated. And wears a "vaccinated" necklace to remind herself of her god of Science.
 

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Proverbs 5:1 My son, pay attention to my wisdom,
turn your ear to my words of insight,
2 that you may maintain discretion
and your lips may preserve knowledge.
3 For the lips of the adulterous woman drip honey,
and her speech is smoother than oil;
4 but in the end she is bitter as gall,
sharp as a double-edged sword.


Think of the progression, they offered you free fries, free raffle tickets, anything to entice the foolish. But in the end it is a double edged sword, get the shot or lose your job. Get the shot or be "othered". No longer able to go to the restaurant, or the PTA meeting, or even the hospital. You pay your taxes but are considered worse than the offscouring. This is Jim Crow 2.0. We have this despicable NY mayor acting as the high priestess of this cult, worshipping the sorcerers, trying to raise up apostles to Baal. And now we even have @JohnDB telling us that if disagree with this worship of the beast that we are blaspheming against his god.

5 Her feet go down to death;
her steps lead straight to the grave.
6 She gives no thought to the way of life;
her paths wander aimlessly, but she does not know it.


It seems that Fauci has flip flopped, wandered aimlessly and has no idea what he is saying and yet the path leads straight to hell.

7 Now then, my sons, listen to me;
do not turn aside from what I say.
8 Keep to a path far from her,
do not go near the door of her house,
9 lest you lose your honor to others
and your dignity to one who is cruel,
10 lest strangers feast on your wealth
and your toil enrich the house of another.


It was a real smack in the face to realize I had payed union dues for years and got absolutely nothing from it. When DeBlasio made his mandate 50% of teachers in NY were not vaccinated. We could have easily stood as one and said we reject this mandate and there is no way they could have opened school two weeks later. But the union took a different tack so that drip, drip, drip more and more teachers got the vaccine against their will because they couldn't afford to lose their job. Read this verse carefully, do not give them your honor or your dignity. They can have my job, fine, but not my honor or my dignity. If I lose my job I stop paying taxes to support this parasite government and I stop paying union dues that support the parasite union.

11 At the end of your life you will groan,
when your flesh and body are spent.
12 You will say, “How I hated discipline!
How my heart spurned correction!
13 I would not obey my teachers
or turn my ear to my instructors.
14 And I was soon in serious trouble
in the assembly of God’s people.”


This is the warning. If this is the precursor to the Mark of the Beast you can be sure that in the end you will groan and repent that you hated discipline and spurned correction and would not obey your teachers.
 

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I have no idea who that is... don't care either.
And you should care. She signed an executive order to give herself more power! If she can do that, what's to stop Biden from doing the same?? We have dictators in the making!!
 
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