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TRUE World Scenario - we will mix two parts and see what happens.

Group A - Sheeple that believe what they are told from Media, Hollywood, Pharma, Government, Institutions

Group B - People created in the Image of God that put to use their brain and conscience to analyze, reason and decide truth is better then bullsheet lies.

Result - All hell brakes loose because Group A has control over previous said functions and wants to inject, incarcerate and kill Group B

End Result - Group A kills many in Group B but then suddenly Group C shows up and slaughters Group A

Group C - Christs Return with Resurrection Power and His Holy Angels to establish Rule with Peace and Justice and They Live for EVER.
 

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TRUE World Scenario - we will mix two parts and see what happens.

Group A - Sheeple that believe what they are told from Media, Hollywood, Pharma, Government, Institutions

Group B - People created in the Image of God that put to use their brain and conscience to analyze, reason and decide truth is better then bullsheet lies.

Result - All hell brakes loose because Group A has control over previous said functions and wants to inject, incarcerate and kill Group B

End Result - Group A kills many in Group B but then suddenly Group C shows up and slaughters Group A

Group C - Christs Return with the Saints and His Holy Angels establish Rule with Peace and Justice and They Live for EVER.
But doesn't Christ have to pick up the Saints before He returns to Earth in victory?
 

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Yep it's finally sinking in the vaccines work because they stimulate antibody production but it begins to fall off until a few months later you have to take more because you can still get sick and infect others. And those who catch it who aren't vaccinated catch it and are protected at first but after a few months their antibodies dwindle down and they can catch it again.

If not then with 70 percent of the US with at least one shot,and 50 percent with at least 2 shots(fully vaccinated) that leaves about 165 million people not vaccinated https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

Then of the 165 million people who are not vaccinated we are told that millions of them have caught the virus and that unknown millions of them had it but were asymptomatic and so no one knows how many there are.

That just about covers 70-80 percent of the US population who either have antibodies from either catching it or from being vaccinated right? So as to herd immunity if this many people have antibody protection why is it that we are currently having cases brake out in every state? Whose catching it if the vast amount of people in the US are not suppose to be catching it after their bodies have antibody protection? This must really be stumping the medical community to realize that neither of the two worked. That is the vaccine didn't work and give herd immunity and just people catching it didn't give them lasting herd immunity either.
 
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But doesn't Christ have to pick up the Saints before He returns to Earth in victory?
Dear Brother Moses, Not sure if you are thinking pre-trib rapture. If you are i have a $1,000 challenge for you (anyone).

$1,000 (US dollars) to the first person that can show the scripture(s) that clearly state: The Bride of Christ/His Elect/the Church is pre-tribulation raptured before the First Resurrection and before the Antichrist. The Bride of Christ/His Elect/the Church as a whole Body of Believers.

*** IMPORTANT - Individual believers/resurrections/raptures such as Enoch, Elijah, Lazarrus, John and the Saints from Matthew 27:51-53 (which is the fulfillment of Isaiah 26:19) = DO NOT QUALIFY.

Rules Apply: ONLY Scripture: No Conjecture - No Commentaries - No personal belief statements
Rules for Disqualification: Seeking to Argue/Arguments - Adding to or taking away from God's Word - Personal Belief Statements - Conjecture

"I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book." Revelation 22:18-19
Proverbs 30: 5-6 "Every word of God is flawless; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him. Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Deuteronomy 4:1-2 Hear now, O Israel, the statutes and ordinances I am teaching you to follow, so that you may live and may enter and take possession of the land that the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you
You must not add to or subtract from what I command you, so that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I am giving you.

EXAMPLE to Follow as Your Guide: Show Proof (Scripture) that Jesus is the ONLY way we can be saved.
ANSWER(S): John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by Me.
Acts 4:11-12 This Jesus is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’
Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”
 

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The incredible and bizarre thing is, this sketch is truth and not comedy:


ABBOTT AND COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S BEEN VACCINATED?’ 😆😆😆
Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’
I get the point this sketch makes, but I find it difficult to believe an establishment would restrict unvaccinated people but knowingly allow someone sick with covid to come in. That is the only reason this really is just a comedy sketch and not reality.

I think establishments should be able to make their own rules, independent of government, but if any establishment knowingly allows sick people to come in that is not only irresponsible but insane. Thankfully, I don't see anyone actually argue to let vaccinated people who are presently sick with covid to have free reign.

As for answering Lou's question on what the vaccine supposedly does... It helps prevent contracting and spreading of the virus. It is not a guarantee. Nevertheless, if someone is vaccinated AND contracts covid, the person's body will combat the virus more efficient because of the vaccine.
 

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As for answering Lou's question on what the vaccine supposedly does... It helps prevent contracting and spreading of the virus. It is not a guarantee. Nevertheless, if someone is vaccinated AND contracts covid, the person's body will combat the virus more efficient because of the vaccine.
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 

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Dear Brother Moses, Not sure if you are thinking pre-trib rapture. If you are i have a $1,000 challenge for you (anyone).

$1,000 (US dollars) to the first person that can show the scripture(s) that clearly state: The Bride of Christ/His Elect/the Church is pre-tribulation raptured before the First Resurrection and before the Antichrist. The Bride of Christ/His Elect/the Church as a whole Body of Believers.
I'm not sure it is clearly stated. But some sort of rapture does make sense, as God doesn't judge His own people with the unbelievers (look at Lot, look at Noah, look at Exodus). I think the best passages giving evidence of it are below (also the imagery in Revelations), but I concede there is much that can be interpreted in different ways.

Matthew 24:36 - 43
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 
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I get the point this sketch makes, but I find it difficult to believe an establishment would restrict unvaccinated people but knowingly allow someone sick with covid to come in. That is the only reason this really is just a comedy sketch and not reality.

I think establishments should be able to make their own rules, independent of government, but if any establishment knowingly allows sick people to come in that is not only irresponsible but insane. Thankfully, I don't see anyone actually argue to let vaccinated people who are presently sick with covid to have free reign.

As for answering Lou's question on what the vaccine supposedly does... It helps prevent contracting and spreading of the virus. It is not a guarantee. Nevertheless, if someone is vaccinated AND contracts covid, the person's body will combat the virus more efficient because of the vaccine.
I see your a twister and pro establishment and pro media.
 

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The incredible and bizarre thing is, this sketch is truth and not comedy:


ABBOTT AND COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S BEEN VACCINATED?’ 😆😆😆
Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’
Oops! A death-shot denier reposted your humourous work, and I accidentally gave him the credit without reading his nonsense below it. Here friend - have the trophy that is due you, for posting something so funny but so true.
 
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I'm not sure it is clearly stated. But some sort of rapture does make sense, as God doesn't judge His own people with the unbelievers (look at Lot, look at Noah, look at Exodus). I think the best passages giving evidence of it are below (also the imagery in Revelations), but I concede there is much that can be interpreted in different ways.

Matthew 24:36 - 43
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The Rapture of the Church is TRUTH. Pre-trib is not and therefore the Challenge.

Good scriptures you posted here - No Pre-Trib in any of them. Pre-Wrath = YES

Please know that We are NOT appointed to God's Wrath - There are Two Wraths in the Bible. One is God's Wrath which we are saved from through the Blood of Christ. What is the other Wrath? Clue: You'll find it in Revelation
 

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The Rapture of the Church is TRUTH. Pre-trib is not and therefore the Challenge.

Good scriptures you posted here - No Pre-Trib in any of them. Pre-Wrath = YES

Please know that We are NOT appointed to God's Wrath - There are Two Wraths in the Bible. One is God's Wrath which we are saved from through the Blood of Christ. What is the other Wrath? Clue: You'll find it in Revelation
Okay. Maybe it's pre-wrath then. To be honest, I'm still not sure, so I try to keep all options open.
 

Smoke

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I see your a twister and pro establishment and pro media.
All I see you do is make personal projections on people who question what you say. It's fine if we don't agree on things, it's another to presume to know who people are or where they are at in their walk with the Savior. That's all I see with you... I tried to fruitfully discuss yesterday about the MRC-5 being in the covid mRNA vaccines but instead you just copy/paste links to sites where you get your rhetoric from which don't even make the claim you are defending.

If you want to sling mud because we disagree, by all means. If you want to address my questions or something that I've said you disagree with, then by all means be explicit and tell me how I am misinformed. If I'm misinformed about the covid mRNA vaccines and they really do have MRC-5 in them, please show me... I know you love to just give someone an X that disagrees or questions what you say, so go ahead and do that, but please also address where I might be in error. I'm willing to accept I could be wrong and even prefaced that maybe I am mistaken on the matter.
 
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I'm not sure it is clearly stated. But some sort of rapture does make sense, as God doesn't judge His own people with the unbelievers (look at Lot, look at Noah, look at Exodus). I think the best passages giving evidence of it are below (also the imagery in Revelations), but I concede there is much that can be interpreted in different ways.

Matthew 24:36 - 43
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Great scripture but no Pre-Trib in them. The Thessalonians were in great tribulation when Paul wrote to them to comfort them.

Matthew 24:36-43 - God's wrath 'Takes Away' the wicked - God's Salvation means the Righteous Remain - Noah Remained.
As far as one taken and one left here is the answer Jesus gives us: “Where, Lord?” they asked. He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Luke 17:37
 
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All I see you do is make personal projections on people who question what you say. It's fine if we don't agree on things, it's another to presume to know who people are or where they are at in their walk with the Savior. That's all I see with you... I tried to fruitfully discuss yesterday about the MRC-5 being in the covid mRNA vaccines but instead you just copy/paste links to sites where you get your rhetoric from which don't even make the claim you are defending.

If you want to sling mud because we disagree, by all means. If you want to address my questions or something that I've said you disagree with, then by all means be explicit and tell me how I am misinformed. If I'm misinformed about the covid mRNA vaccines and they really do have MRC-5 in them, please show me... I know you love to just give someone an X that disagrees or questions what you say, so go ahead and do that, but please also address where I might be in error. I'm willing to accept I could be wrong and even prefaced that maybe I am mistaken on the matter.
Nobody addressed you relationship with Christ - That is called twisting words. Go get as many shots as you can so that we can know how it affects you.
 
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