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shittim

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This is true. There are also those with a suppressed immunity system due to disease to start with and not a matter of keeping their immune system in shape. Seems that genetics plays a key role in the strength and effectiveness of one's immune system and not so much a matter of faith or of one's regimen in keeping it in shape.
So the Creator of all is incapable of protecting His Own from sickness?

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/the-immune-system
 
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tourist

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Yeah, that Elijah guy was in good with God.
Here is some more for you - Enoch and Elijah were the only Two in the Bible who were Raptured without seeing Death. WHY???

Let me know if you want a clue - Thanks
I will offer my take on this.

First, it does state in scripture that it is appointed for each man to die. Of course, there may be exceptions to this.

I believe it is possible that Elijah and Enoch are coming back. It was definitely stated that Elijah would one day return. These two could very well be the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation.

Another interesting thing about appointments with death is the Apostle John. Peter was walking with Jesus and said "What about this man?" He was referring to John who was following them. Jesus said "What is that to you if I want him to remain until I come?". Then a saying what out that this apostle (John) would not die.

It later offers some clarification in that Jesus did not say that John would not die but only the if He wishes him to remain until He comes back than what is that to Peter. Personally, I believe that John has not yet died but has remained behind until the return of Jesus. He may be a candidate for being one of the two witnesses.
 

shittim

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Most of our immune system problems comes from the Globlists who hve been poisoning our food, water and air. Big Pharma is part of the destruction of our God given immune system.
Which traces back to the adversary, and as we are in Christ the adversary is below us, the stronger the indwelling Christ is in us, the less the adversay can exploit the chink in the whole armor of God.
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I will offer my take on this.

First, it does state in scripture that it is appointed for each man to die. Of course, there may be exceptions to this.

I believe it is possible that Elijah and Enoch are coming back. It was definitely stated that Elijah would one day return. These two could very well be the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation.

Another interesting thing about appointments with death is the Apostle John. Peter was walking with Jesus and said "What about this man?" He was referring to John who was following them. Jesus said "What is that to you if I want him to remain until I come?". Then a saying what out that this apostle (John) would not die.

It later offers some clarification in that Jesus did not say that John would not die but only the if He wishes him to remain until He comes back than what is that to Peter. Personally, I believe that John has not yet died but has remained behind until the return of Jesus. He may be a candidate for being one of the two witnesses.
Brother, You are 100% on Target = Double Bullyseye

Satan knows God is in violation of His Word - ALl have sinned therefore all die. What God knows is that He is sending Enoch and Elijah back to earth (Israel) to Prophesy and Witness to the people and against the Anti-Christ.
See God did NOT violate His Word because the Anti-Christ kills Them (Two Witnesses).

This is the principle we all must use to discern Truth - SOLA SCRIPTURA - Only Scripture - Do not add or take away.

Revelation does not mention the names Enoch and Elijah but because Scripture cannot lie = It directs us to only one conclusion = The Two Witnesses are the same Two Witnesses whom God raptured (placed aside) for a future date with death = Revelation.

All have sinned therefore all die
 
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I will offer my take on this.

First, it does state in scripture that it is appointed for each man to die. Of course, there may be exceptions to this.

I believe it is possible that Elijah and Enoch are coming back. It was definitely stated that Elijah would one day return. These two could very well be the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation.

Another interesting thing about appointments with death is the Apostle John. Peter was walking with Jesus and said "What about this man?" He was referring to John who was following them. Jesus said "What is that to you if I want him to remain until I come?". Then a saying what out that this apostle (John) would not die.

It later offers some clarification in that Jesus did not say that John would not die but only the if He wishes him to remain until He comes back than what is that to Peter. Personally, I believe that John has not yet died but has remained behind until the return of Jesus. He may be a candidate for being one of the two witnesses.
Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say that he would not die, but only, “If I want him to remain until I return, what is that to you?”…
 

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Because of this, the rumor spread among the brothers that this disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say that he would not die, but only, “If I want him to remain until I return, what is that to you?”…
I find this passage to be very interesting.
 
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I will have to ponder this.
Something else to ponder: The Two Witnesses are the same Two Witnesses whom God raptured (placed aside) for a future date with death = Revelation.

Therefore these TWO WITNESSES who were RAPTURED thousands of years ago, were NOT Pre-Trib Raptured, because they will be killed by the Anti-Christ.
 

iamsoandso

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This is true. There are also those with a suppressed immunity system due to disease to start with and not a matter of keeping their immune system in shape. Seems that genetics plays a key role in the strength and effectiveness of one's immune system and not so much a matter of faith or of one's regimen in keeping it in shape.

I agree. Infants and toddlers immune system hasn't yet fully developed and so would be at risk and those who are older 50+ also. It's like saying to our bodies we refuse to go through puberty to think otherwise the human body is going to go through it's God given path in life. I think it's past the scope of most to really know unless they are doctors,I'm not. From reading the things the doctors have said most of this is dependent on the viral load of infection anyway. From what I understand there is the mucous surrounding our organs and when an invader(illness) comes in contact with it it stimulates an response(igG,IgA t cells ect.) and is the first line of defense.

From what I have read it then depends on the viral load the person has in their body anyway. If like on a scale of 1-10 the patient has a viral load that's small then their antibodies will combat the illness,but if they only had a small viral load then they have fewer antibodies so then they go away faster. If a person has a larger viral load in them when they catch it then the amount of antibodies is then greater and so when well they stay in them for a longer period of time. Then though the problem is if they have an viral load like 9-10(?) the human body cannot produce antibodies as fast as the virus can reproduce so the virus out preforms the body and the person dies. A lot of what I'm saying I read looking at things like monoclonal antibody treatment(covid cocktail) and wondering why they did it the only answer I could find was that in severe cases the virus can replicate it's self faster than an human body can produce antibodies. This is an Christian forum and as fa as I know no one has claimed to be an MD so everyone may differ and maybe it's best read about this their own selves.
 

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the people who took the shots whom i personally know had the side effects after the 2nd shot.

so, if you feel rough or even get sick, do not be surprised. i think, if i remember correctly, they had at least felt bad to a degree..
Respectfully, are youa M.D.?
 

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Your link is from John Hopkins who was the original "covid dashboard" and supports vaccination,mask ect. To be fare though it might be confusing to some to read the the link because it explains "inherited immunity". The word novel(I.E novel coronavirus) means that it is novel and that nobody was born with an immune response to it. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/novel
 
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flygplan

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Your immune system doesn't keep you "from catching an illness" it fights off an illness "after" you've caught it.
Exactly. Whoever disagrees with this has really no idea about biology or medicine. SMH
 
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Your link is from John Hopkins who was the original "covid dashboard" and supports vaccination,mask ect. To be fare though it might be confusing to some to read the the link because it explains "inherited immunity". The word novel(I.E novel coronavirus) means that it is novel and that nobody was born with an immune response to it. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/novel
God designed our immunity to adapt and respond. The satanists (Big Pharma Elites/Globalists) know this and so they designed mRNA tech to interfere and overwhelm God's Design in His Image made in His Likeness.

The vaxx is rooted in satanism which is this:
How you have fallen from heaven, O day star, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the ground, O destroyer of nations.
You said in your heart: “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of assembly, in the far reaches of the north
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High. Isaiah 14

He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. 2 Thessalonians 2

Designed by satanists for their lord = the god of this world.
 
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flygplan

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God designed our immunity to adapt and respond. The satanists (Big Pharma Elites/Globalists) know this and so they designed mRNA tech to interfere and overwhelm God's Design in His Image made in His Likeness.

The vaxx is rooted in satanism which is this:
How you have fallen from heaven, O day star, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the ground, O destroyer of nations.
You said in your heart: “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God. I will sit on the mount of assembly, in the far reaches of the north
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High. Isaiah 14

He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. 2 Thessalonians 2

Designed by satanists for their lord = the god of this world.
You have no idea of what you're saying. But hey what our God given brains? all the years of research dedicated to cure illnesses? You really think the person who spends hours and hours in a lab testing and trying to figure out how to cure an illness is secretly going home and having a Satanic ritual? So if our immune system is compromised we just roll over and die? I don't argument can stand.
 
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You have no idea of what you're saying. But hey what our God given brains? all the years of research dedicated to cure illnesses? You really think the person who spends hours and hours in a lab testing and trying to figure out how to cure an illness is secretly going home and having a Satanic ritual? So if our immune system is compromised we just roll over and die? I don't argument can stand.
Strictly speaking about the vaxx here - Peace
 
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I agree. Infants and toddlers immune system hasn't yet fully developed and so would be at risk and those who are older 50+ also. It's like saying to our bodies we refuse to go through puberty to think otherwise the human body is going to go through it's God given path in life. I think it's past the scope of most to really know unless they are doctors,I'm not. From reading the things the doctors have said most of this is dependent on the viral load of infection anyway. From what I understand there is the mucous surrounding our organs and when an invader(illness) comes in contact with it it stimulates an response(igG,IgA t cells ect.) and is the first line of defense.

From what I have read it then depends on the viral load the person has in their body anyway. If like on a scale of 1-10 the patient has a viral load that's small then their antibodies will combat the illness,but if they only had a small viral load then they have fewer antibodies so then they go away faster. If a person has a larger viral load in them when they catch it then the amount of antibodies is then greater and so when well they stay in them for a longer period of time. Then though the problem is if they have an viral load like 9-10(?) the human body cannot produce antibodies as fast as the virus can reproduce so the virus out preforms the body and the person dies. A lot of what I'm saying I read looking at things like monoclonal antibody treatment(covid cocktail) and wondering why they did it the only answer I could find was that in severe cases the virus can replicate it's self faster than an human body can produce antibodies. This is an Christian forum and as fa as I know no one has claimed to be an MD so everyone may differ and maybe it's best read about this their own selves.
Yesterday, i was waiting for your reply. Getting back to = 'We are not appointed to God's Wrath = TRUTH"
But there is another Wrath mentioned in the Word:

Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea; with great wrath the devil has come down to you, knowing he has only a short time. Rev 12:13
 
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