Poll - Who won the first Trump/Clinton debate?

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Who Won the First Clinton/Trump Debate

  • Clinton

    Votes: 15 40.5%
  • Trump

    Votes: 12 32.4%
  • Neither

    Votes: 10 27.0%

  • Total voters
    37
  • Poll closed .
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KimPetras

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By the way ..I noticed when kim posted...Hillary got another vote .:rolleyes: I think some members on this forum like to debate and don't care if they know they are wrong...they just like to take the other side of a issue ..:(
Trump got another vote too... lol

Besides, regardless of how I voted, it's my opinion that Hillary won. "Believe me", I hope I'm wrong and this proves to be a brilliant strategic move for Trump that helps him ultimately win.

I can admit that maybe Trump really did win the debate in terms of getting more voters on his side. The reason it appears as a superficial loss is because everyone expected him to go full on assault mode instead of his best Bernie Sanders "who cares about her damn emails" impersonation.
 
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KimPetras

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He wasn't actually complaining about the ads or attacking her..

His point was that she has spent over a quarter of a Billion dollars on ads against him and she's still neck-and-neck with him in the polls... While he hasn't spent anywhere near that much and didn't even do the kind of negative ads that he could easily do against her. :rolleyes:
What significance is that point though? That IF he did attack ads he would be up more? Why the heck isn't he doing more ads?! :(
 

tourist

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Did you even look at the polls I posted ..updated TODAY..that show Trump WON !
His performance in the debate didn't increase my confidence that he will ultimately pull this off in the general election. For being astute in business he seemed frazzled during the whole debate. Extremely disappointing performance against a weaker inferior opponent.

He seems to be leading in Ohio at the moment and that's a very good thing. She has a slight edge in Pennsylvania but is losing support so that's another promising development. My sense living in Florida is that he will win the state in a tight race. If he carries Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida he should be a lock.

I don't think that he will win from his performance in the debates but he could very well lose if he doesn't up his game. Most critical swing state is Pennsylvania. I believe it to be a very strong Second Amendment rights state, and the Dems want to disarm. Hillary is for solar panels and the Donald digs coal in a coal producing state.
 
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KimPetras

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His performance in the debate didn't increase my confidence that he will ultimately pull this off in the general election. For being astute in business he seemed frazzled during the whole debate. Extremely disappointing performance against a weaker inferior opponent.

He seems to be leading in Ohio at the moment and that's a very good thing. She has a slight edge in Pennsylvania but is losing support so that's another promising development. My sense living in Florida is that he will win the state in a tight race. If he carries Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida he should be a lock.

I don't think that he will win from his performance in the debates but he could very well lose if he doesn't up his game. Most critical swing state is Pennsylvania. I believe it to be a very strong Second Amendment rights state, and the Dems want to disarm. Hillary is for solar panels and the Donald digs coal in a coal producing state.
I agree. Regardless of who won the debate, neither candidate nailed the coffin shut.

I hope in the next debate, Trump flies the Enola Gay and drops a couple presents off for Hillary (and Bill too if he's nearby).
 

tourist

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What significance is that point though? That IF he did attack ads he would be up more? Why the heck isn't he doing more ads?! :(
Wondering that myself. It certainly can't be because he is out of money. Maybe his advisors are inept. Hillary has said a lot of horrible things in the past that he could bring up. Time to really go on the offensive. He needs to shred her in the ads. No more Mr. Nice Guy.
 

posthuman

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Trump may be the only political figure in the Republican party that Clinton could defeat in a general election, but fortunately for her, he happens to be the only person she's running against.




personally i find it really painful to watch this 'battle royale' of the least two desirable candidates imaginable, and think that anyone who actually literally supports either one is using a type of judgement that is cause to walk around with an umbrella.
 

tourist

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I agree. Regardless of who won the debate, neither candidate nailed the coffin shut.

I hope in the next debate, Trump flies the Enola Gay and drops a couple presents off for Hillary (and Bill too if he's nearby).
Bill will be what the military call collateral damage.
 
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Trump may be the only political figure in the Republican party that Clinton could defeat in a general election, but fortunately for her, he happens to be the only person she's running against.




personally i find it really painful to watch this 'battle royale' of the least two desirable candidates imaginable, and think that anyone who actually literally supports either one is using a type of judgement that is cause to walk around with an umbrella.
Your right we should burry our heads in the dirt
 

Roughsoul1991

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It boils down to this if you are an American you have the right to vote it's your duty as a citizen. More than likely it will come down to Hillary or Donald. You need to choose the lesser of evil and from my standpoint, that is Donald a 100%. Neither candidate is perfect. In fact, I wanted Ben Carson to be president. But now I see the importance to back the only candidate who still stands for morals and for the people. It's not hard to see what each candidate stands for. I don't understand what makes this so difficult. Maybe so called Christians do not read the Bible? Maybe they take what they want to hear and twist it to fit their addiction to sin or pride.

All I am saying we got two choices that make a difference. If you have not chosen then do your homework and read God's Word the truth is plain to see and so will be your choice. If you have chosen well re-do your homework and compare it to Gods Word and then make an educated choice with the foundation of God's Word.

I am an American! I hold God above all and my God tells me to abide by the laws of my government. I hold the constitution dearly to heart because this is the foundation of our country and protector of our liberties. The constitution even gives us, the people, the legal right to protect our country from its own government. For all the people who believe our country is on its way out the door, then you are not American. Have pride, stand for freedom, show respect, because everyday our soldiers die for your right to sit here and say our country is failing. History shows our country has had rough patches and we always rise together. We have freedom in our blood and America in our hearts. The Democrats have run this country into the ground. Do you have anything else to lose by choosing a republican? Wake up Americans look at your dollar bill and tell me this country was not built with God in mind . The democrats want to erase these 4 words. In GOd we Trust! The Constitution defends our freedom to practice our religion. And that to me is very important. Im sure Americans in the Civil war thought we was falling as a Country or in WW1 or WW2 or Vietnam or Desert Storm or 9/11. We as Americans always rose to defend freedom and when things mattered we rose as one.

Our for fathers put God first as thier compass. It was normal to trust God in the past. But as we grew smarter in knowledege people began to think they where smarter than the belief of God. Do you think Martin Luther King Jr believed the country was failing. No he saw what God wanted for this country. And now we must see what God want for this country today. I am Not and Will Not stop having hope and fighting for my country until I see Jesus return. Then I will let Jesus do all the fighting. The world wants Christians to be spineless and lose hope. Be American! And if America is your allie to your country then I hope your praying too. A change in leadership will affect the world and your world. We must pray for our leaders and DO ALL WE CAN DO AS AMERICANS TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS.
 
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Guy I have warned you about that nonsense ...don't play that game ...you want to attack Trump...fine ... Don't accuse me, A righteous man of God ..full of Gods power and Spirit, of being in darkness. Now maybe you are too spiritually ignorant to know better? But I have had enough of that ... When you insult me in that manner, you insult the Lord who I abide in. Insult my intellect, my personality ..my heritage ..but do not insult my spiritual standing in Christ.
I dont appreciate the way you represent our father,with the Donald Is a GOOD and HONEST man when Donalds attributes are nothing like GOD.
 
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I found it amusing how trump always tried to speak over Hillery and the little dude asking the questions.
But then I remembered that one of those is going to be our future president
I think he came off like a taunting little child on the playground, hollering nanananana no, I didn't. Or perhaps an irritating little foo-foo dog, yipping and nipping at her heels.
 
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Trump got another vote too... lol

Besides, regardless of how I voted, it's my opinion that Hillary won. "Believe me", I hope I'm wrong and this proves to be a brilliant strategic move for Trump that helps him ultimately win.I can admit that maybe Trump really did win the debate in terms of getting more voters on his side. The reason it appears as a superficial loss is because everyone expected him to go full on assault mode instead of his best Bernie Sanders "who cares about her damn emails" impersonation.
He's done this before. And I hope this is another one of those ploys. But, I sense that he is flirting with disaster, and that he just might not have the time to recover from some of these antics one of these time, and he will find himself standing out in the cold with his pants down around his knees, looking like an old fool.
 

posthuman

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Your right we should burry our heads in the dirt
safe to assume you're being sarcastic, right?
because realizing that neither candidate is supportable is exactly the opposite of burying ones head in the sand. i would argue that thinking one or the other is justifiable is actually burying your head.



but it is a really pertinent question facing all of us: who the heck do you vote for when faced with decision between

liberal liar #1
or
liberal liar #2

???

the common reaction seems to be stick to partisan lines, with the diablolical pretext that republicans are somehow "more Christian" than democrats. vote party if you can't vote person.

i do like how that the facade is being stripped away, and no one can pretend they are voting because of abortion or because of the homosexual agenda or because one candidate is a liar or not.
both support abortion. both support the homosexual agenda. both are pattern liars. it's like God has said here, quit kidding yourselves. you're voting republican because, republican. see? you will even vote for this guy, if he happens to be the republican ticket, and you'll find some way to justify it to yourself.








 
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I agree. Regardless of who won the debate, neither candidate nailed the coffin shut.

I hope in the next debate, Trump flies the Enola Gay and drops a couple presents off for Hillary (and Bill too if he's nearby).
Unfortunately Trump isn't much better in that department. His indiscretions just haven't been as public. He needs to remember that he will be throwing stones in a glass house.
 
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Mitspa

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I dont appreciate the way you represent our father,with the Donald Is a GOOD and HONEST man when Donalds attributes are nothing like GOD.
Then attack Trump ...even attack my intelligence or my sanity ..do not attack my standing in Christ as you have done .. I cannot as a man of God allow that to happen .. "every voice that rises in judgment against you, you shall condemn" You are committing a severe spiritual sin, when you do that to other believers and especially a man of God, who knows the power of God. Call me whatever you like on a personal level but don't do that evil nonsense again ..in the Name of Jesus
 

tourist

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Couldn't you have said that with a little more compassion with Chelsea's love for her dad In mind.
I meant no harm by that remark. I guess as a former member of the military I sometimes speak the language. This election is not a matter of life or death. It's more important than that.
 
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Then attack Trump ...even attack my intelligence or my sanity ..do not attack my standing in Christ as you have done .. I cannot as a man of God allow that to happen .. "every voice that rises in judgment against you, you shall condemn" You are committing a severe spiritual sin, when you do that to other believers and especially a man of God, who knows the power of God. Call me whatever you like on a personal level but don't do that evil nonsense again ..in the Name of Jesus
I see what you mean."How can two walk together unless they agree"
 
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safe to assume you're being sarcastic, right?
because realizing that neither candidate is supportable is exactly the opposite of burying ones head in the sand. i would argue that thinking one or the other is justifiable is actually burying your head.



but it is a really pertinent question facing all of us: who the heck do you vote for when faced with decision between

liberal liar #1
or
liberal liar #2

???

the common reaction seems to be stick to partisan lines, with the diablolical pretext that republicans are somehow "more Christian" than democrats. vote party if you can't vote person.

i do like how that the facade is being stripped away, and no one can pretend they are voting because of abortion or because of the homosexual agenda or because one candidate is a liar or not.
both support abortion. both support the homosexual agenda. both are pattern liars. it's like God has said here, quit kidding yourselves. you're voting republican because, republican. see? you will even vote for this guy, if he happens to be the republican ticket, and you'll find some way to justify it to yourself.


Are you saying trump is a liberal? Lol ... Last I checked he's the republican nominee, if you are saying he's a liberal, facts please