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Does God placing you in the care for the right doctor when you have a disease diminish His power?
No
God's power exists infinitely on the macro and micro level. No matter where you are in Creation, His power is absolute. Evolution does not diminish His power, if He is the cause, supporter, architect, and implementer of Evolution. That is what many of us believe.
No
God's power exists infinitely on the macro and micro level. No matter where you are in Creation, His power is absolute. Evolution does not diminish His power, if He is the cause, supporter, architect, and implementer of Evolution. That is what many of us believe.
The issue is not whether God uses means or not, of course He does.
The issue is what does Scripture reveal concerning Creation? A Big Bang? or God speaking and forming creation into existence in 6 days? The other issue is do we believe God's Word whether or not it aligns with the latest theories of man?
Evolution has nothing to do with the biblical account unless you compromise on the literal meaning of a day as 'evening and morning' - one day.
It also goes contrary to what is revealed as in ...
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (Heb 11:3)
Evolution is not of faith but sight.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Rom 5:12) Simply does not fit the evolutionary scheme of things.
and hasn't a clue concerning this...
For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. (Rom 8:20-22)
So the Pope embraces those who would laugh to scorn such Scriptures, and you would embrace the pope?
The issue is what does Scripture reveal concerning Creation? A Big Bang? or God speaking and forming creation into existence in 6 days? The other issue is do we believe God's Word whether or not it aligns with the latest theories of man?
Evolution has nothing to do with the biblical account unless you compromise on the literal meaning of a day as 'evening and morning' - one day.
It also goes contrary to what is revealed as in ...
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (Heb 11:3)
Evolution is not of faith but sight.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Rom 5:12) Simply does not fit the evolutionary scheme of things.
and hasn't a clue concerning this...
For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. (Rom 8:20-22)
So the Pope embraces those who would laugh to scorn such Scriptures, and you would embrace the pope?
Honestly, I've never believed in the literal interpretation of the creation in Genesis, and for one major reason. It seemed to make God into a conjurer or a magician. I don't mean that as offensive, but even as a young child I thought this way. I thought that it wasn't the truth in a literal interpretation. However, I believed that the Holy Spirit had revealed unto Moses a great truth, that God spoke the world into existence. That God had formed and molded every inch of existence, and gave the universe the right spin. That God hung worlds on nothing. You see, I believe Moses saw a revelation of the creation of the world and from the depths of his heart he wrote as the Holy Spirit prompted him to. So Moses wrote what he could understand. Any man who has stood in the presence of the divine power of God in its fullness is struck immediately dumb. I do not discount the fact of God's sovereignty or that Moses wrote what he saw, but I do discount that I or you a 21st century human being could truly place ourselves into the mind of a man raised an Egyptian prince and chosen by God to be one of the greatest prophets of history. And I don't believe Moses could truly place himself into our shoes reading it. However, I believe the Holy Spirit came down upon Moses and aided him in writing what he had seen. I believe Moses wrote the truth, but I believe that no one of his time could have written the creation in its full "scientific" exactness.
You see, I hear evolution and I only hear what humans understand of God's creation. I read the Bible and I read what a BC Jew, raised as Egyptian royalty, tried to comprehend and explain of God's creation. I do not believe the two are inseparable, but are both two sides speaking past each other, because neither is able to speak the language of the other.
You see, I hear evolution and I only hear what humans understand of God's creation. I read the Bible and I read what a BC Jew, raised as Egyptian royalty, tried to comprehend and explain of God's creation. I do not believe the two are inseparable, but are both two sides speaking past each other, because neither is able to speak the language of the other.
If I am understanding you right, I respectfully disagree with that perspective and here is why...
The first few chapters of Genesis brings forth concepts that are common to all cultures.
Concepts such as language, clothes, trees, serpents, day, night, stars, earth, sky, trees, evil, good, death, life etc.
So whether one is living in pre-flood Babylonia, post flood Egypt, or modern day Tel Aviv all those basic concepts are common to all and understood by all. Perhaps the one with the most problems with the Creation account is modern man since the 'Enlightenment' who discounts miracles out of hand.
The first few chapters of Genesis brings forth concepts that are common to all cultures.
Concepts such as language, clothes, trees, serpents, day, night, stars, earth, sky, trees, evil, good, death, life etc.
So whether one is living in pre-flood Babylonia, post flood Egypt, or modern day Tel Aviv all those basic concepts are common to all and understood by all. Perhaps the one with the most problems with the Creation account is modern man since the 'Enlightenment' who discounts miracles out of hand.
No I understand your point. Its why I don't adhere to all of evolution, such as survival of the fittest and when it comes to the creation of man. Though to get into that, it would take much longer than I would care to write it out. I will say simply that I believe God heals through doctors and miracles, I believe God acts outside of His creation in grandeous ways and within His creation in such mundane ways that we simply miss it because we weren't watching.
Now, I will say this, if I'm wrong I'm wrong on Creation. Its why I still study the science behind creationism and find much of it extraordinary, but what bothers me the most is that both sides have ample scientific evidence to I believe show that another theory is right and that we are both wrong.
Though I will also say, if God created the universe 6000 years ago, I believe He created a 13.7 billion year old universe in seven days. That is a possiblity I am willing to acknowledge.
Now, I will say this, if I'm wrong I'm wrong on Creation. Its why I still study the science behind creationism and find much of it extraordinary, but what bothers me the most is that both sides have ample scientific evidence to I believe show that another theory is right and that we are both wrong.
Though I will also say, if God created the universe 6000 years ago, I believe He created a 13.7 billion year old universe in seven days. That is a possiblity I am willing to acknowledge.
It makes far more sense to observe and understand scientific principles that prove the Earth is well over 6000 years old than to believe blindly that evolutionist theory is the result of a mass scientific conspiracy wherein millions of dedicated professionals spend countless hours fabricating theories that happen to be incredibly complex, testable, workable and falsifiable, so that they can create technology and draw all manner of pictures, their end-goal being to disprove God, simply because you can't look past literalistic interpretations of Genesis.
Occam's Razor states that all things being equal, the simplest solution is the best. The simplest solution is, somewhere along the line your biblical interpretation is incorrect.
Occam's Razor states that all things being equal, the simplest solution is the best. The simplest solution is, somewhere along the line your biblical interpretation is incorrect.
Evolution may explain how things happened, scriptures tell us why things happened. Both answer different questions. Using one method of science as the rule, guide and interpreter of other sciences is what the scholastics call "The Fallacy of the Uniform Method of Science". One cannot use physical science to solve metaphysical problems.
Here is an interesting article from Time magazine:
It is official: the media has gone bananas in its coverage of Pope Francis.
OMG-Pope-Francis-Supports-Evolution story of the past two days is just the latest example. Almost every news outlet, major and minor, has plastered Pope Francis’ name across the interwebs and proclaimed he has finally planted the Catholic Church in the evolution camp of the creation-evolution debate. The only problem? Almost every outlet has got the story wrong, proving once again that the mainstream media has nearly no understanding of the Church. And that madness shows no signs of stopping...
http://time.com/3545844/pope-francis-evolution-creationism/
Here is an interesting article from Time magazine:
It is official: the media has gone bananas in its coverage of Pope Francis.
OMG-Pope-Francis-Supports-Evolution story of the past two days is just the latest example. Almost every news outlet, major and minor, has plastered Pope Francis’ name across the interwebs and proclaimed he has finally planted the Catholic Church in the evolution camp of the creation-evolution debate. The only problem? Almost every outlet has got the story wrong, proving once again that the mainstream media has nearly no understanding of the Church. And that madness shows no signs of stopping...
http://time.com/3545844/pope-francis-evolution-creationism/
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Those who propose evolution as God's means to human, would ANYONE, kindly explain to me how death, disease and sin (aka the curse) entered the world?
Nautilus says it is an easy answer, then gives no answer.
Seriously, this is the caveat for me to deny evolution in any form (besides micro and macro evolution)
Nautilus says it is an easy answer, then gives no answer.
Seriously, this is the caveat for me to deny evolution in any form (besides micro and macro evolution)
