Proof Gay/Lesbian Relations Are Making Us OK With Pedophilia?

[Gifts]

So if your forum post is A question, I would say the embrace of Homosexual life styles is a conditioning on the path to our society degrading to A point of legal forced acceptance of pedophile.

I was happier not reading most of your post. That's... pretty bad. I'm not quite sure if I agree with you. In general I would say that you are right, that further acceptance of sin is only going to lead to more sin, and eventually disaster. In this specific case I have mixed feelings though.

Setting aside the whole homosexuality issue here, and confronting the issue about the age of the participants, I'm not sure where to draw the line. I understand the spirit of the law is to protect minors, but in reality it may be causing more harm than good. If a girl is sexually mature, I'm not sure why I should tell her to not have sex. Better for her to find a partner, marry them, and procreate to her hearts content, rather than walk around lusting all the time and being tempted like that. But it's not that simple either, girls are maturing at younger and younger ages for some reason, and combine this with an overall shift in the public attitude towards many things over the past hundred years, and we have a mess on our hands.

The point I'm sort of trying to make here is that while a fourteen year old getting married and having sex in this place and time will pretty much inevitably turn out disastrous, it might not have always been so. I can't say for sure if it is because the people getting married are too young, and not ready for it, or if it's because of this overall shift in our society.

 

[Christabel]

LOL....True! One should not force their belief on anyone. But at the same time, these morals seem to have faded as time goes on. With the influence of the world having more of an effect on what's right and whats wrong. As i agree with Elizabeth619, judging from your respond, Nautilus, you seem to be ok with minors having sex? From the sounds of it as well, i take it you don't have kids?

Nautilus' point is that people choose for themselves. Obviously as Christians we don't believe in that lifestyle, but people that don't believe like us God has obviously given the right to choose for themselves. We have no say over them. That's their business. We can tell them what we believe, but that's it. So why do we have to keep clarifying what we believe when we're discussing this in here? You think if we sit here and keep saying these people are wrong, that's gonna change one cotton picking thing? We're responsible for ourselves. God could be the ultimate dictator, but obviously He doesn't work that way. So why is it we Christians think we run this world?

 

[Christabel]

I was happier not reading most of your post. That's... pretty bad. I'm not quite sure if I agree with you. In general I would say that you are right, that further acceptance of sin is only going to lead to more sin, and eventually disaster. In this specific case I have mixed feelings though.

Setting aside the whole homosexuality issue here, and confronting the issue about the age of the participants, I'm not sure where to draw the line. I understand the spirit of the law is to protect minors, but in reality it may be causing more harm than good. If a girl is sexually mature, I'm not sure why I should tell her to not have sex. Better for her to find a partner, marry them, and procreate to her hearts content, rather than walk around lusting all the time and being tempted like that. But it's not that simple either, girls are maturing at younger and younger ages for some reason, and combine this with an overall shift in the public attitude towards many things over the past hundred years, and we have a mess on our hands.

The point I'm sort of trying to make here is that while a fourteen year old getting married and having sex in this place and time will pretty much inevitably turn out disastrous, it might not have always been so. I can't say for sure if it is because the people getting married are too young, and not ready for it, or if it's because of this overall shift in our society.

I actually very much agree with you. That's the reason people got married so young in the old days, so they wouldn't end up having sex out of marriage because their hormones were driving them so hard. I'd say it's much better to get married and start having a family than having a bunch of premarital relationships. You don't agree? Just look at the mess we've got on our hands these days. Obviously we're doing something wrong? Duh?

 

[Nautilus]

They started dating after the girl was 18 and the minor is 14 no way out of it because a minor cant give consent to sex under 16 in florida eitha way dating and sex are 2 diff areas. Tho a lot of ppl twist it into its because she "gay"

actually they started dating when the older girl was 17 because they are on the same high school basketball team. The disgusting thing is you all are only making this an issue because they are two girls. Never once have I seen anyone in this thead say a single word about HS guys over 18 sleeping with minors...bunch of fakes

 

[Nautilus]

Romeo and Juliet law doesn't apply to 14 year olds off the top of my head the age is 16 for us states

its actually different in each state, some go as low as 14 or 15 with various modifiers.

 

[souljahblyndslym]

its actually different in each state, some go as low as 14 or 15 with various modifiers.[/QU

US states are 16 for age of consent Romeo and Juliet law lesser the penalty but doesn't make it ok it just gives more lenient punishments if charges are brought. Remember Genarlow Wilson, Georgia 17 year old with 15 year old consensual oral sex he ended up doing two years. No where in the US age of consent is 14 years old, years ago it was but today its not. And please understand Romeo Juliet law doesn't give immunity to sexual crimes if charges are brought up. Its not cause she is "gay"

 

[souljahblyndslym]

Nautilus

Genarlow Wilson a good example and plenty of other guys get hit with statutory rape charges and lewd and lascivious act. its just the difference is there is no campaign for them as we see with this. But you are determined to twist this however you choose so.

 

[Nautilus]

yeah its probably because im not a homophobic bigot...

 

[djness]

actually they started dating when the older girl was 17 because they are on the same high school basketball team. The disgusting thing is you all are only making this an issue because they are two girls. Never once have I seen anyone in this thead say a single word about HS guys over 18 sleeping with minors...bunch of fakes

I addressed that on page one.

http://christianchat.com/christian-...esbian-relations-making-us-ok-pedophilia.html

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Originally Posted by Nautilus

You also left out the fact that this lesbian 'adult' is a high school senior who only just recently turned 18. She met the other girl who is actually 15, while they both played on the high school basketball team. So a bit of clarification is neeed on those points. Also the funny thing is the only reason this is even a news story is because of the lesbian aspect. If you persecuted every high school senior that had sex with someone 15 or 16 years old, you wouldn't have very many people walking.

Originally posted by Djness; Or maybe you would have more parents involved in their kids lives and less kids ending up pregnant in their teens and on MTV making more money then you ever will.
Also you are correct, the only reason it made the news is because the family of the 18 year old is making it an issue. If this was a 18 year old guy 14 year old girl, you would have never heard of it.

 

[djness]

Nautilus' point is that people choose for themselves. Obviously as Christians we don't believe in that lifestyle, but people that don't believe like us God has obviously given the right to choose for themselves. We have no say over them. That's their business. We can tell them what we believe, but that's it. So why do we have to keep clarifying what we believe when we're discussing this in here? You think if we sit here and keep saying these people are wrong, that's gonna change one cotton picking thing? We're responsible for ourselves. God could be the ultimate dictator, but obviously He doesn't work that way. So why is it we Christians think we run this world?

We as a people, not just christians, legislate morality already. Without me sounding condescending you do know that this is true don't you? I imagine you must. People create laws for morality it's been going on for quite a long time.

Should I as a christian stop obeying laws that I feel do not apply to me? I think if you study the bible closely you will see that Satan runs the world, but greater is He that is in us then is in the world, and we have an obligation to be moral and to show others that truth.

 

[djness]

yeah its probably because im not a homophobic bigot...

"My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side."--Abraham Lincoln

 

[Nautilus]

Well I guess thats where we differ DJNess. Id rather live in country that didnt have such rampant discrimination of people based on the fact they loved someone of the same sex. And if equality is a concept that goes against the Bible., then I guess I'll just have to deal with that at judgment day.

 

[biggiestomp]

Nautilus' point is that people choose for themselves. Obviously as Christians we don't believe in that lifestyle, but people that don't believe like us God has obviously given the right to choose for themselves. We have no say over them. That's their business. We can tell them what we believe, but that's it. So why do we have to keep clarifying what we believe when we're discussing this in here? You think if we sit here and keep saying these people are wrong, that's gonna change one cotton picking thing? We're responsible for ourselves. God could be the ultimate dictator, but obviously He doesn't work that way. So why is it we Christians think we run this world?

Well Christable, no one is saying that Christians need to run the world. However, Christians are called to be the salt of the earth. And having compassion for those who are living in sin. As i would hope that someone would have the same compassion for me. May they agree or disagree. And no ones is being a homophobic bigot. The truth is the truth. The only reason anyone is responding or even talking about this is because it was posted. I haven't heard a single hateful remark about Gays through this post. Or at anyone else for that matter. So tell me Christable, are you pro Choose or pro Life? Being that you mention everyone should have a Choose. I was just wondering.

 

[Drett]

One thing a disaster does is it get people thinking about God more. The disasters in the world are increasing. Treat them as a wake up call.

 

[Nautilus]

Well Christable, no one is saying that Christians need to run the world. However, Christians are called to be the salt of the earth. And having compassion for those who are living in sin. As i would hope that someone would have the same compassion for me. May they agree or disagree. And no ones is being a homophobic bigot. The truth is the truth. The only reason anyone is responding or even talking about this is because it was posted. I haven't heard a single hateful remark about Gays through this post. Or at anyone else for that matter. So tell me Christable, are you pro Choose or pro Life? Being that you mention everyone should have a Choose. I was just wondering.

The whole news story is based around homosexual discrimination. HS guys and girls get together all the time while one is 18 and the other is 14, 15, 16, whatever...but the minute its a gay couple, cops are called, kids are suspended, and lives threatened to be ruined.

But as to whether Im pro-choice or pro-life...I think ill decline to answer, though if you take a guess youre probably right.

And yes compassion for those living in sin...I agree I am compassionate if they get into bad situations or such, but being happy to just let them live their lives...i cant see how that is not compassionate either.

 

[biggiestomp]

The whole news story is based around homosexual discrimination. HS guys and girls get together all the time while one is 18 and the other is 14, 15, 16, whatever...but the minute its a gay couple, cops are called, kids are suspended, and lives threatened to be ruined.

But as to whether Im pro-choice or pro-life...I think ill decline to answer, though if you take a guess youre probably right.

And yes compassion for those living in sin...I agree I am compassionate if they get into bad situations or such, but being happy to just let them live their lives...i cant see how that is not compassionate either.

Well Nautilus, may you be right or wrong in your statement as you are truly happy and OK with your comment. compassion is one of those things that should always flow through our life. it is like the glue which keeps us from becoming bitter and angry at those we may or may not agree with. I could be so blind in which what i believe that someone would remain compassionate and understanding with me. Not coming to excepting the things i do, but still loving me through it. And my question about Pro life or pro choose, was not asked to make as a judgement call. No judgement is being made on any person, but what's being said. But then again as the Bible tells us, out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks

 

[1still_waters]

The slope becomes even more slippery as the lines become more blurred.
A law maker is suggesting easing the laws on sex crimes between "consenting" adults and children.
State Senator Thad Altman says Kaitlyn Hunt's situation is 'tragic' and wants to change the law

SEBASTIAN, Fla. - Kaitlyn Hunt's case is capturing attention all over the country. And now one State Senator says he is so outraged he wants to change the law.


Scoff all you want, but this is how it all gets started.
It never happens with one major change.​

 

[Grey]

Infidels?
Dude.......

Infidels?? really

 

[Bridget_Left_China]

So many Christians feel that they are being more loving and tolerant to accept these sorts of sins as ''but it's their choice'' or "It's not any of my business". If we were simply supposed to live and let live, then God would most likely take us to Heaven as soon as we believed. Instead we are kept on this planet for a reason. He called us to preach His Good News-the Truth. We are also called to be Holy. Holiness can be a wake-up call to those around us living in sin. It does no one any earthly good to let them perish in their unbelief by not calling sin a sin. All it does is make us lukewarm.

Revelation 3:16 (NASB) So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.

1 Peter 1:14-16 (ESV) As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (ESV) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Proverbs 17:15 (ESV) He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the Lord.

 

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