Putin has made this invasion in Ukraine all about the US dollar.

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ZNP

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The only problem with taking your money out of the bank is that it now becomes the property of anyone who comes along and takes it from you. Once its in the public, it can be taken. We can go out and buy silver and gold to replace our money, but try hauling around silver and gold . . . it isn't light. I found out just how heavy it is after I purchased about $15,000 of silver. I soon found out that it was stupid to do. So much could be said.
So then keep your treasure where thieves cannot get it
 

ZNP

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Amazing video. I lost two MORE thousand dollars last week in my leading stock just within last week. What more I've lost as of yesterday and today? I only had three thousand left to lose. I think I've lost about $15,000 in stock money. I'll never get it back, I'm sure.
The good news is that in six months that will be the least of your concerns
 

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The only problem with taking your money out of the bank is that it now becomes the property of anyone who comes along and takes it from you. Once its in the public, it can be taken. We can go out and buy silver and gold to replace our money, but try hauling around silver and gold . . . it isn't light. I found out just how heavy it is after I purchased about $15,000 of silver. I soon found out that it was stupid to do. So much could be said.
Well, there are small silver coins one can buy in order to keep things light. Gold too. Both are an asset should fiat currency become obsolete.

However, before rushing out to do that we might wish to consider history and EO(Executive Order) 6102 under President FD Roosevelt.
In other words, even hoarding silver and gold for a means of surviving should the financial stability of this country fall can be taken from us.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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So then keep your treasure where thieves cannot get it
I hear you, but those treasures have to be with you if you're on the move. If it's in your truck, trucks will be stolen. If it's on your person, you will be frisked. If it's in the ground, you cannot leave the area. It's pretty much a no-win situation . . . unless there's something I'm missing. I THINK I've put thought into this. I was one of those guys that once had a $1800 survival kit when Kim Jung Un began threatening us.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Well, there are small silver coins one can buy in order to keep things light. Gold too. Both are an asset should fiat currency become obsolete.

However, before rushing out to do that we might wish to consider history and EO(Executive Order) 6102 under President FD Roosevelt.
In other words, even hoarding silver and gold for a means of surviving should the financial stability of this country fall can be taken from us.
Yep, I had hoards of silver quarters and dimes. I've got one roll of dimes left; keeping it for myself should I need them. But that's nothing, really. I'm just depending upon my Circumcised Heart and no longer being under the Adamic Curse. That's what Salvation hinges upon, so I'm good. I'm ready to die and enter into the most incredible Vacation anyone has ever imagined. Let's go!
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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The good news is that in six months that will be the least of your concerns
I sure hope so. I'd give up all things just to follow Christ if He were to arrive. But even better is to enter into the Pearly Gates. I've had one foot in Heaven already . . . I know what it feels like . . . I have a solid idea of what I, and hopefully we, are in for. You all won't believe it until you experience it for yourselves.
 

ZNP

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I hear you, but those treasures have to be with you if you're on the move. If it's in your truck, trucks will be stolen. If it's on your person, you will be frisked. If it's in the ground, you cannot leave the area. It's pretty much a no-win situation . . . unless there's something I'm missing. I THINK I've put thought into this. I was one of those guys that once had a $1800 survival kit when Kim Jung Un began threatening us.
I'm talking about keeping your treasure in heaven
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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I'm talking about keeping your treasure in heaven
Nice. Fortunately for me, I have physically experienced the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. My heart has been Spiritually Circumcised by Christ. I urge all people to study this all-important doctrine. It is the Heart of the Bible, for without Spiritual Circumcision, nothing . . . and I mean nothing else matters. Circumcision of the Heart is the single most important concept that we understand . . . I'd hop on it and then make sure that a it has been granted.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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By the way, I wanted to thank you for the links to your book. I am so busy with life I have neglected writing my own Biblical Commentary that revolves around Circumcision of the Heart (not intended for reproduction, but for personal use only). I hope that one day soon I'll be able to read it! Thank you so much for making your work available to us. I'm sure that it will be rather informative. Again, thank you, sir.
My pleasure, I hope it will be of value. Sadly, much of what I talked about in the book is the direction things are going. On the plus side, God knows all the little details and it's under control. We know how the story ends. :)
 

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The Bible says life is going to be hard for those Americans who survive the Fall of Mystery Babylon.

Isa 47:1 Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.
Isa 47:2 Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.
Isa 47:3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.

She's not royalty any longer. Her secret sins are exposed to the world, and she has to work hard to survive.

A lot of Americans won't be able to deal with the new reality.

I didn't realize the Bible talked about Americans.

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maxwel

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Ok, so you put down JStates. What did we accomplish in sharing our passive-aggressive words?

Stating a proposition is just stating a proposition.... it isn't a "put down" and isn't "passive aggressive."
If my proposition calls into question another person's proposition... how has that harmed anyone?

In fact, isn't that the very thing which JStates, and everyone else on this forum, does continually, and without any ill intent?
Shouldn't we be able, as Christians, to politely discuss various issues about which we disagree?
If questioning or disagreeing were a sin, then wouldn't you be in sin right now for questioning me?
And isn't the act of questioning and disagreeing the very reason we're in this forum at all?
Isn't that the reason we're all here... to share our thoughts, question each other, challenge each other, and sometimes disagree?

I have nothing at all against JStates.
I have no animosity toward him of any kind, and I have no reason to think he's anything less than a fine person.
Perhaps we all need to take a deep breath, and just relax.


Take care, and I hope you have a wonderful weekend.

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Stating a proposition is just stating a proposition.... it isn't a "put down" and isn't "passive aggressive."
If my proposition calls into question another person's proposition... how has that harmed anyone?

In fact, isn't that the very thing which JStates, and everyone else on this forum, does continually, and without any ill intent?
Shouldn't we be able, as Christians, to politely discuss various issues about which we disagree?
If questioning or disagreeing were a sin, then wouldn't you be in sin right now for questioning me?
And isn't the act of questioning and disagreeing the very reason we're in this forum at all?
Isn't that the reason we're all here... to share our thoughts, question each other, challenge each other, and sometimes disagree?

I have nothing at all against JStates.
I have no animosity toward him of any kind, and I have no reason to think he's anything less than a fine person.
Perhaps we all need to take a deep breath, and just relax.


Take care, and I hope you have a wonderful weekend.

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"Shouldn't we be able, as Christians, to politely discuss various issues about which we disagree?"
I used to think so. I know better now.
 

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"Shouldn't we be able, as Christians, to politely discuss various issues about which we disagree?"
I used to think so. I know better now.
Do the think the below was respectful or sarcastic?

"I didn't realize the Bible talked about Americans."

If you were a pastor, would you want someone talking to you like this after your sermon? If so, that's cool.
 

ZNP

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Do the think the below was respectful or sarcastic?

"I didn't realize the Bible talked about Americans."

If you were a pastor, would you want someone talking to you like this after your sermon? If so, that's cool.
When I see things like that it is so far away from my view of the Bible I have no response. I think every word of the Bible is speaking to me, an American, in the 21st century. I don't get questions like that. If the Bible is not talking to us today in the US then why read it?

As an aside I heard about "Bible codes" and so I wanted to test it out, There is a guy who will find your name in the Bible, so I gave him my name (first, middle and last), my Mom's name, my dad's name my kids names, my wife's name, the year I was born and the city.

He found my name intersected by my mother's name, father's name, daughter's name and wife's name as well as the year I was born and the USA.

The verses that were there were quite amazing and shined a light on my Christian experience.

Since then I have a whole new appreciation for "all things came into being through the word of God"