QAnon Is Destroying the GOP From Within says Sen. Ben Sasse (Rep.)

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Roughsoul1991

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It wasn't a joke, merely an observation of the right wing Christians that associate anything with the democratic party with communism. It's a disorder in itself.
Then you were not joking? So you are claiming they have Tourettes with no medical evaluation? Just because a word is repeated? Love is also repeated quite a lot in scripture. Why? It is a word that is very important to the message and context. Communism may be a word you hear often when related to socialism, Marxism, or many different individuals who have adopted that philosophy. It is just a matter of subject.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I'm wondering why two of the loudest voices here on America politics are from Canada? Trudeau has caused enough issues to keep them busy and minding politics in their own country. Yet they're here screaming about Trump. The hatred is astounding to me. Yet at least one of them claims they are Christians. Quite unbelievable when you think about it. Their opinions mean nothing, they don't have to worry about losing their rights and freedoms. They can sit back and laugh. Right to bear arms means nothing to them, their freedom of speech is limited. Why they even bother giving an opinion I don't know. I'm inclinded more and more to ignore them. They have nothing to offer because they won't have to live under whatever party is in office here.
Canada has been running to socialism for decades. So I can see why possibly a Canadian doesn't understand the American people.
 

Roughsoul1991

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@Roughsoul1991 so only Americans can comment on American politics?

So all the opinion pieces, research and books published about USSR, China and the Middle East and every other part of the world by

Americans should be stopped, they do not live there?

I have never once on here told someone they cannot offer a view, a fact or an opinion on Canadian politics.

A person who needs to impose this barrier wants to shut down a different view based on a straw man.

BTW...there is a whole field of study called Political Science and International Relations
What you mean? Did I say non-Americans couldn't talk about American politics?
 

Smoke

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Actually Trump disavowed them. He was publicly asked about it. He had no idea who they even were. It was the movement that took what he said out of context.

Given your first post that reeks of faux social justice, I doubt your perspective on a lot of things.
The organizations involved in the social justice movements are corrupt. There is no excuse for promoting them.

I'm sorry but I don't have any further responses for further things screeched by someone like that, even if your intention is good.
If I'm wrong I apologize and would love a link to a video where he disavows Qanon. What I remember is during a debate/town hall he was asked about Qanon and he pretended to not know what it was and then proceeded to tell the host what they stand for/against. I don't think anyone really believed he didn't know anything about Qanon especially when he tells the host what they are all about...
 
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I never saw him say that he knew what QAnon believed in in the town hall. He said flat out he knew nothing about them.
You say he pretended not to know. But I saw not evidence it was pretend.
 

Jackson123

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Here is their doctrine:

Donald Trump Is an American Hero
The Democratic party is completely evil from beginning to end and must be destroyed and high ranking members put in jail
The world is controlled hands by the Illuminati and deep state, they will be destroyed because of the efforts of Q
Q followers are part of the “Great Awakening,” which is will happen because it is destiny

And most importantly........

The Patriots are in control!!!
What I believe is, base on the Bible the antichrist will control the world, and I believe illuminati prepare for the antichrist, getting stronger and stronger. And I believe illuminati creeping on both democrat and republic. It seem to me Trump fight against illuminati agenda (global government) Trump promote nationalist.
 

Smoke

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I never saw him say that he knew what QAnon believed in in the town hall. He said flat out he knew nothing about them.
You say he pretended not to know. But I saw not evidence it was pretend.

You can fast-forward to 2:38. He tells her what Qanon believes (kabal of pedophiles etc...). That starts at about 3:18 in the video. I wish they just played the town hall without any cuts, but I assure you it's not out of context. I remember watching it with my Qanon family and friends. Everyone there was like "See!! He doesn't disavow us because he knows we are fighting for him and America!!"

As for my accusing him of pretending and you not seeing any evidence... Did you not hear him say, "I know nothing about Qanon..." and then respond to the host that they denounce/are against pedophilia/sex trafficking and says he is against that as well. Do you see those are undeniable conflicting statements? How can you not know "anything" about Qanon but then proceed to say what they are for/against?

Now then... can you post the video where he does as you say and disavows them?
 
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So you are arguing the momentum they achieved was unintentional?
Not at first. I don't know how anyone can predict how a movement will work especially with the limited faculties that were at Q's disposal starting off. I do agree that eventually QAnon was not a centralized movement.
 

Roughsoul1991

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You can fast-forward to 2:38. He tells her what Qanon believes (kabal of pedophiles etc...). That starts at about 3:18 in the video. I wish they just played the town hall without any cuts, but I assure you it's not out of context. I remember watching it with my Qanon family and friends. Everyone there was like "See!! He doesn't disavow us because he knows we are fighting for him and America!!"

As for my accusing him of pretending and you not seeing any evidence... Did you not hear him say, "I know nothing about Qanon..." and then respond to the host that they denounce/are against pedophilia/sex trafficking and says he is against that as well. Do you see those are undeniable conflicting statements? How can you not know "anything" about Qanon but then proceed to say what they are for/against?

Now then... can you post the video where he does as you say and disavows them?
To only say they are against pedophiles and sex trafficking doesn't admit much. That has been the loudest voice of their movement. The little I know about the movement is far from saying I support the movement.
 
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I never saw him say that he knew what QAnon believed in in the town hall. He said flat out he knew nothing about them.
You say he pretended not to know. But I saw not evidence it was pretend.
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Some on the left wallow in this navel gazing nonsense and think everybody else should too…
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EleventhHour

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I'm wondering why two of the loudest voices here on America politics are from Canada? Trudeau has caused enough issues to keep them busy and minding politics in their own country. Yet they're here screaming about Trump. The hatred is astounding to me. Yet at least one of them claims they are Christians. Quite unbelievable when you think about it. Their opinions mean nothing, they don't have to worry about losing their rights and freedoms. They can sit back and laugh. Right to bear arms means nothing to them, their freedom of speech is limited. Why they even bother giving an opinion I don't know. I'm inclinded more and more to ignore them. They have nothing to offer because they won't have to live under whatever party is in office here.
Being from Canada is neither here not there and I am not going to address that attempt at an ad hominem again since it not ever worth the energy it takes to keyboard a response.

And of course this comment
Yet at least one of them claims they are Christians.
how about you exercise your first amendment right and name some names?

Who claims and who does not?
 
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Some on the left wallow in this navel gazing nonsense and think everybody else should too…
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Agreed. The Left thinks we're in the past. So much so that they're about to become Nazi Germany. Or rather turn us into it. Except they aren't the Resistance, they're the Nazis.
 
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You can fast-forward to 2:38. He tells her what Qanon believes (kabal of pedophiles etc...). That starts at about 3:18 in the video. I wish they just played the town hall without any cuts, but I assure you it's not out of context. I remember watching it with my Qanon family and friends. Everyone there was like "See!! He doesn't disavow us because he knows we are fighting for him and America!!"

As for my accusing him of pretending and you not seeing any evidence... Did you not hear him say, "I know nothing about Qanon..." and then respond to the host that they denounce/are against pedophilia/sex trafficking and says he is against that as well. Do you see those are undeniable conflicting statements? How can you not know "anything" about Qanon but then proceed to say what they are for/against?

Now then... can you post the video where he does as you say and disavows them?
I mean that's like still like saying "but but he must be a white supremacist, why isn't he denouncing it?"

It's because Trump doesn't have time or interest in virtue signaling. Even if he did know what they believe, that doesn't mean he encouraged them. QAnon had this habit of taking things he said out of context, just like the Left does.

What's your point?
 
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EleventhHour

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I mean that's like still like saying "but but he must be a white supremacist, why isn't he denouncing it?"

It's because Trump doesn't have time or interest in virtue signaling. Even if he did know what they believe, that doesn't mean he encouraged them. QAnon had this habit of taking things he said out of context, just like the Left does.

What's your point?

He should absolutely denounce "white supremacy " especially considering the current social and political climate.
 
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He should absolutely denounce "white supremacy " especially considering the current social and political climate.
They were quick to get on the Dems' case for not supposedly getting on denouncing bandwagon when the BLM protests were happening.
 

Roughsoul1991

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He should absolutely denounce "white supremacy " especially considering the current social and political climate.
He has a lot of times. The daily wire had an article out listing the many times. Which every Trump supporter who followed his speeches and interviews knows it was exhaustively shot down. Sometimes he would denounce it, just for the interviewer to keep asking. This is one of those largely fabricated lies pushed by our media. Counter media will help bring truth to this.
 

Roughsoul1991

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They were quick to get on the Dems' case for not supposedly getting on denouncing bandwagon when the BLM protests were happening.
There was no need. He has countless times denounced it.
 
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He has a lot of times. The daily wire had an article out listing the many times. Which every Trump supporter who followed his speeches and interviews knows it was exhaustively shot down. Sometimes he would denounce it, just for the interviewer to keep asking. This is one of those largely fabricated lies pushed by our media. Counter media will help bring truth to this.
I agree with you.
I want to know why the media isn't held to account for their behavior though. That upsets me most. The problem won't be solved until they are brought to account.

But this isn't a fight we're supposed to win without Christ.

The biggest thing is they seem upset Trump won't engage in their virtue signal storms.
 
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What you mean? Did I say non-Americans couldn't talk about American politics?
I mentioned it to you because you put a like on @kaylagrl post where she stated this

Believe whatever you wish. Your thoughts have no bearing on the situation at all. When you move here, we'll take your POV seriously. Otherwise, you have nothing to add to the conversation.
I assume then you were agreeing with other parts, no worries.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Qanon operates out of sharing enough truth and enough subjects that touch the hearts of American patriots. They use this to bring in new members. Then if you begin to go down the "Rabbit hole" you will find things like an elite cabal, pedophile rings, sex trafficking, the global elites drink the blood of children they killed, and Q is their prophet. Trump is their savior. Qanons are their disciples. And "The Storm" is when this cabal will be arrested and the military will enact it. This bringing in their Great Awakening which will consist of peace, harmony and will make America great again. It even talks about time travel and JFK's brother was never killed but actually still alive and part of Q.

The research is getting harder to understand because media sites have banned their content.