Riots in Minneapolis

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Susanna

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What you posted STILL does not address the issue nor gets to the heart of the matter. I can post videos to support what I said also AND? Would it matter to you. Nope. It's always the same group of people here too, putting down black people. As soon as I see the ring leader, I know who else will show up in the thread. Just like I know who will respond to this post. Oh and before anyone else mentions Chicago, people have marched there too about the violence going on there. No one takes the time to understand. Equality? Yes slavery was a long time ago. But racism is alive and kicking. Even in this thread.
People don’t understand what racism is because they have never been subject to it themselves.

As for me, I’m white, but being a Cajun, with a lousy English language, a no good culture, a subject to assimilation, and etc, I’ll at least have some knowledge about what racism is. And it’s a pretty ugly thing, which is very much alive.
 

PennEd

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What you posted STILL does not address the issue nor gets to the heart of the matter. I can post videos to support what I said also AND? Would it matter to you. Nope. It's always the same group of people here too, putting down black people. As soon as I see the ring leader, I know who else will show up in the thread. Just like I know who will respond to this post. Oh and before anyone else mentions Chicago, people have marched there too about the violence going on there. No one takes the time to understand. Equality? Yes slavery was a long time ago. But racism is alive and kicking. Even in this thread.
Maybe a little Candace Owens can help you out:

 

HoneyDew

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Maybe a little Candace Owens can help you out:

What makes you think that I need help? Secondly why do you keep posting black people for me to view. For as many videos that you put up with black people speaking your point of view, I have just as many white people saying the opposite.

I'm well aware of who she is. She was once anti Trump, anti-Tea Party, anti-Clarence Thomas, loved the NAACP, even utilized them to help her win a discrimination suit. Only now she has been using this platform to make money for awhile now and she is being used also. This lady conveniently made this video just when she is about to have a book released and those who think the way she is speaking will make her sales skyrocket.

Yes, Ahmaud was jogging. He may have become curious about the property because he may have been interested in buying it or simply was admiring it and wanted a closer look. People do that kind of thing all the time. The point is Candace does not know WHY Ahmaud entered a vacant home under construction. Nevertheless she planted and polluted a narrative into the minds of thousands who view that video. Before black people had any kind of political/voting power in this country, blacks were consistently hunted down by white racists for entertainment purposes.

Moreover, black lives have been stigmatized by right-winged propaganda machines for a very long stretch of time in America. White supremacy media branded all black lives as dangerous and born to criminal behavior. All "FAKE NEWS" of course. The fear of a black man running in their neighborhood is precisely why these two vigilantes decided to accost and murder him.

As far as George Floyd, I don't know anyone who would intentionally passed a counterfeit bill in a store that hung around outside shooting the breeze in his car with a friend. Most people who do that I imagine would immediately leave the scene of the crime. He was robbed of his day in court when he was murdered. As I have said several posts back, there is nothing wrong with being Black, white or whatever you were born as. No one has asked anyone to apologize for it. There is none who is superior over the other.

Candace with her smooth venacular is turning her black nose up to black people but she'll be reminded just how black she is. Just like Omarosa was.
 

PennEd

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What makes you think that I need help? Secondly why do you keep posting black people for me to view. For as many videos that you put up with black people speaking your point of view, I have just as many white people saying the opposite.

I'm well aware of who she is. She was once anti Trump, anti-Tea Party, anti-Clarence Thomas, loved the NAACP, even utilized them to help her win a discrimination suit. Only now she has been using this platform to make money for awhile now and she is being used also. This lady conveniently made this video just when she is about to have a book released and those who think the way she is speaking will make her sales skyrocket.

Yes, Ahmaud was jogging. He may have become curious about the property because he may have been interested in buying it or simply was admiring it and wanted a closer look. People do that kind of thing all the time. The point is Candace does not know WHY Ahmaud entered a vacant home under construction. Nevertheless she planted and polluted a narrative into the minds of thousands who view that video. Before black people had any kind of political/voting power in this country, blacks were consistently hunted down by white racists for entertainment purposes.

Moreover, black lives have been stigmatized by right-winged propaganda machines for a very long stretch of time in America. White supremacy media branded all black lives as dangerous and born to criminal behavior. All "FAKE NEWS" of course. The fear of a black man running in their neighborhood is precisely why these two vigilantes decided to accost and murder him.

As far as George Floyd, I don't know anyone who would intentionally passed a counterfeit bill in a store that hung around outside shooting the breeze in his car with a friend. Most people who do that I imagine would immediately leave the scene of the crime. He was robbed of his day in court when he was murdered. As I have said several posts back, there is nothing wrong with being Black, white or whatever you were born as. No one has asked anyone to apologize for it. There is none who is superior over the other.

Candace with her smooth venacular is turning her black nose up to black people but she'll be reminded just how black she is. Just like Omarosa was.
To show not all black people think as you do, or all white as I do.

 

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Maybe a little Candace Owens can help you out:

Yeah sure the guy was no saint but we still can't let police officers get away with murdering people
 

PennEd

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Yeah sure the guy was no saint but we still can't let police officers get away with murdering people
Didn’t say we could. I’m actually cool with the death penalty for the cop.
 
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Yeah sure the guy was no saint but we still can't let police officers get away with murdering people
Yeah well we can't allow BLM to take over the country either with their "defund the police" agenda either. The idea that every white person in the country is guilty of racism, needs to take a knee and cry black lives matter is bunk. I'm not going to be a part of it. If black lives matter then all black lives matter. That would include black on black crime, which kills far more black people than white cops do. That would also include the genocide that is happening with black babies being aborted. I'm not American, but I don't see why no one sees it, or they do and are afraid to say it and be accused of being racist. All black lives matter, or don't they?
 

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we had riots in nz over the springbok tour in 1981. I was one year old so had no idea...but apparently sOuth Africa was so racist that it had apartheid. They wouldnt even let black africans play on their national rugby team, they had to be white africans.

so they came to nz which is NOT a racist country as we let anyone play on our national rugby team as long as thye are good at rugby (no women for the all blacks, yet though...its a rough game) and our rugby team is called THE ALL BLACKS. as if to make a point...its the colour of our rugby jersey, not our skin, in case you are confused about that)


and so they had this rugby tour and half the people protested and didnt want to let them play because of their racism and the others who were rugby fans were like just let them here to play we dont care. and there were huge riots because of this IN THE RUGBY FIELD.

but it surely shows that when one country is racist the others are not going to put up with them.
I will tell you what happend next to South Africa.
 

Lanolin

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what happened was the tour did go ahead but some the games ended up in riots and the police had to use batons...becaause people were protesting about the racist south africans who only wanted white people to play rugby. Previous tours to their country meant the all Blacks could only send white players there as black ones werent allowed. as you might know many Maori people have dark skin and so they would be treated inferior if they went to South africa. But they are some of our best rugby players!

when the springboks, the south african rugby team came to nz, they played the all blacks who had no such racist policy. it gave them an oppotunity to see that we as a nation did not accept their cruels treatment of players based on white privelige, because so many protested.

It ended up dividing a nation....over rugby.

after that the sprinboks went home (tails between their legs...as they lost a few games) but it took years for apartheid to be dismantled in south africa.

we have south african refugees in our country and they come here to get away from the horrible racism there. they can be any colour it doesnt matter. The one thing is they want a better life.
 

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But ya know, it’s so much easier blaming others than taking responsibility:


Chicago suffers deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours
by Adam Ford · Jun 8th, 2020 4:41 pm
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Last Updated Jun 8th, 2020 at 4:59 pm
The city of Chicago notched a grim milestone last weekend, as 18 people were murdered on Sunday, May 31 alone, marking the deadliest day in the city since at least 1961.

The University of Chicago Crime Lab's numbers do not go back further than 1961, so it's impossible to say how long it's been — if ever — since so many people were murdered in the city one 24-hour stretch.
The Chicago Sun-Times describes some of the victims:
A hardworking father killed just before 1 a.m.​
A West Side high school student murdered two hours later.​
A man killed amid South Side looting at a cellphone store at 12:30 p.m.​
A college freshman who hoped to become a correctional officer, gunned down at 4:25 p.m. after getting into an argument in Englewood.​
In the entire weekend stretching from 7 p.m. Friday, May 29, through 11 p.m. Sunday, May 31, 24 people were killed in Chcago and another 85 were wounded by gunfire.
The next-highest murder total for a single day in Chicago was on Aug. 4, 1991, when 13 people were killed.
"We've never seen anything like it, at all," said Max Kapustin, the senior research director at the crime lab. " ... I don't even know how to put it into context. It's beyond anything that we've ever seen before."​
 

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But ya know, it’s so much easier blaming others than taking responsibility:


Chicago suffers deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours
by Adam Ford · Jun 8th, 2020 4:41 pm
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Last Updated Jun 8th, 2020 at 4:59 pm
The city of Chicago notched a grim milestone last weekend, as 18 people were murdered on Sunday, May 31 alone, marking the deadliest day in the city since at least 1961.

The University of Chicago Crime Lab's numbers do not go back further than 1961, so it's impossible to say how long it's been — if ever — since so many people were murdered in the city one 24-hour stretch.
The Chicago Sun-Times describes some of the victims:
A hardworking father killed just before 1 a.m.​
A West Side high school student murdered two hours later.​
A man killed amid South Side looting at a cellphone store at 12:30 p.m.​
A college freshman who hoped to become a correctional officer, gunned down at 4:25 p.m. after getting into an argument in Englewood.​
In the entire weekend stretching from 7 p.m. Friday, May 29, through 11 p.m. Sunday, May 31, 24 people were killed in Chcago and another 85 were wounded by gunfire.
The next-highest murder total for a single day in Chicago was on Aug. 4, 1991, when 13 people were killed.
"We've never seen anything like it, at all," said Max Kapustin, the senior research director at the crime lab. " ... I don't even know how to put it into context. It's beyond anything that we've ever seen before."​
yes, it is so sad to see this, and sad to see that no cares about these lives.....
 
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But ya know, it’s so much easier blaming others than taking responsibility:


Chicago suffers deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours
by Adam Ford · Jun 8th, 2020 4:41 pm
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Last Updated Jun 8th, 2020 at 4:59 pm
The city of Chicago notched a grim milestone last weekend, as 18 people were murdered on Sunday, May 31 alone, marking the deadliest day in the city since at least 1961.

The University of Chicago Crime Lab's numbers do not go back further than 1961, so it's impossible to say how long it's been — if ever — since so many people were murdered in the city one 24-hour stretch.
The Chicago Sun-Times describes some of the victims:
A hardworking father killed just before 1 a.m.​
A West Side high school student murdered two hours later.​
A man killed amid South Side looting at a cellphone store at 12:30 p.m.​
A college freshman who hoped to become a correctional officer, gunned down at 4:25 p.m. after getting into an argument in Englewood.​
In the entire weekend stretching from 7 p.m. Friday, May 29, through 11 p.m. Sunday, May 31, 24 people were killed in Chcago and another 85 were wounded by gunfire.
The next-highest murder total for a single day in Chicago was on Aug. 4, 1991, when 13 people were killed.
"We've never seen anything like it, at all," said Max Kapustin, the senior research director at the crime lab. " ... I don't even know how to put it into context. It's beyond anything that we've ever seen before."​
And we all know who's fault it is, right?
Bad policemen?
White privilege?
White supremacy?
Racism?
The president?
Republicans?
All of the above?
 
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Susanna

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Structural racism is present in this country and represents a major problem. It’s no point in denying it.

We have to acknowledge the fact that not everyone in America is given the opportunity to make a decent living.

When parts of society are literally on the outside, bad things are bound to happen.

People from the middle class and upper class are rarely involved in violence and crime, but people from the lower classes are extremely more often involved in behavior like that. We also know that race is significant when it comes to class affiliation.
 

HoneyDew

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:) I have said that people have marched and have held rallies and there are people who are working on solutions about the violence in Chicago. I know because I was at one of them. People just want to point their finger. One minute it's "the news is dividing" until they show something that someone can weaponize. Not offer a solution, for help or for understanding, but weaponize and help tear down or discredit. It's not that they need facts or a spreadsheet because even with video evidence they twist the narrative to fit the evil and hatred in their heart.

A few have come in this thread and broke it down on a childrens sunday school level and BOOM here comes the #whataboutisms. Thing is it's okay. I've been watching things over the last few days of different areas of the world and more people of different ethnicities understand and are walking with black people than I knew. So the few in here with their negative narratives with nothing nice or positive to say... meh.

The bible says, "for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."

We all will have to stand before the Almighty and give an account of our words and deeds. On that day best believe it won't matter what hue you are and he won't care about the #whatabout what so and so did or what about what happened over there.
 

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And we all know who's fault it is, right?
Bad policemen?
White privilege?
White supremacy?
Racism?
The president?
Republicans?
All of the above?
Democrats was notably missing from the list.
 
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DWR

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And we all know who's fault it is, right?
Bad policemen?
White privilege?
White supremacy?
Racism?
The president?
Republicans?
All of the above?
Democrats was notably missing from the list.
Come on man. It ain't never the Democrats fault when bad things happen.
Don't you watch the news?