Russia release news of new "super nuke" called the 'Satan 2'

[Desdichado]

Maybe we should start analyzing the first term? Far as I know the president has a say when the country is being challenged by a foreign power. More so, I think we all know what relationship the SOS and the POTUS had back then. Probably hasn't changed much, but in times like this I guess principles aren't worth the effort. Obama sidelined her effectively and he centralized foreign policy like Nixon.

I've read different, but am open to being proven wrong. Especially given the antagonism between the Clintons and the Obamas.

I've always interpreted that though as a difference of personality/political gamesmanship more than ideology or substantive policy concerns.

 

[Desdichado]

Why do they have to compare it's destructiveness capacity to my Texas???

Because the boom would be big, but not Alaska big.

Also, I never pictured France being as big as Texas.

 

[CharlieGrown]

Because the boom would be big, but not Alaska big.

Also, I never pictured France being as big as Texas.

Thanks, I feel a little better. It still hurts my heart tho.

 

[Susanna]

I've read different, but am open to being proven wrong. Especially given the antagonism between the Clintons and the Obamas.

I've always interpreted that though as a difference of personality/political gamesmanship more than ideology or substantive policy concerns.

The SOS is dependent on a close relationship with the president. Like Kissinger and Nixon. Before Kissinger Nixon had it all centralized. Kerry, the ideological twin brother of Obama's got a lot of power for a SOS too.

 

[Desdichado]

Thanks, I feel a little better. It still hurts my heart tho.

It's okay, I'm sure that Governor Abbott is commissioning the Texas National Guard to build a nuke big enough to devastate everything from St. Petersburg to Sebastopol.

 

[Susanna]

It's okay, I'm sure that Governor Abbott is commissioning the Texas National Guard to build a nuke big enough to devastate everything from St. Petersburg to Sebastopol.

Everything is big in Texas.

 

[Desdichado]

The SOS is dependent on a close relationship with the president. Like Kissinger and Nixon. Before Kissinger Nixon had it all centralized. Kerry, the ideological twin brother of Obama's got a lot of power for a SOS too.

I know what Nixon did, my question though is where Clinton really differed from Obama. I've read or seen nothing to confirm they clashed on substantive foreign policy concerns.

 

[Susanna]

I know what Nixon did, my question though is where Clinton really differed from Obama. I've read or seen nothing to confirm they clashed on substantive foreign policy concerns.

They didn't. She was sidelined. He just wanted her for his SOS so that the Clinton's would be cooperative.

 

[Desdichado]

They didn't. She was sidelined. He just wanted her for his SOS so that the Clinton's would be cooperative.

Here is what I'm looking for- tell me of a time they disagreed that we can verify. By any means! I mean journal entries, public statements, legitimate White House chatter.

I'm doing my due diligence even now (I should be working), but I can't find anything other than that she got the funding she wanted and expanded the power and profile of the state department with it.

I'll bet it peeved Obama, but didn't change what he did in Libya for example.

 

[Susanna]

Here is what I'm looking for- tell me of a time they disagreed that we can verify. By any means! I mean journal entries, public statements, legitimate White House chatter.

I'm doing my due diligence even now (I should be working), but I can't find anything other than that she got the funding she wanted and expanded the power and profile of the state department with it.

I'll bet it peeved Obama, but didn't change what he did in Libya for example.

What I'm saying is that Obama has been in charge, if the phrase "in charge" is passable regarding his lack of determination when it comes to foreign policy.

 

[Laish]

Why do they have to compare it's destructiveness capacity to my Texas???

Simple reasons actually. It's the most famous state , it's big ,it has a tough as nails imagine and as my Texan sister would say if they take out Texas their ain't nothing left fighting for. I will disagree with her but it sounds cool to a Texan I suppose.
Blessings
Bill

 

[Utah]

This is solely the responsibility of the current administration. Trump will just be more of the same. Hillary will be tougher than that. We need to reestablish respect for the U.S. It's not happening now and will not be happening if Trump is elected.

Trump--same; Hillary--tough. There aren't enough vomit buckets available to read the above quoted post more than once.

 

[Utah]

None of them are good for the country, but I for sure don't want four more years of the current foreign policy. That is what Trump will be giving us.

Exactly what flavored Kool-Aide is it you're consuming?

 

[Laish]

Trump--same; Hillary--tough. There aren't enough vomit buckets available to read the above quoted post more than once.

I thought it was funny. Maybe it's a case of political dyslexia and the names got reversed .
Oh well it has been a unusual election year I am sure we shall hear or read even more,(let's say unusual) thoughts or opinions about the candidates in the few days left.
Blessings
Bill

 

[Susanna]

Trump--same; Hillary--tough. There aren't enough vomit buckets available to read the above quoted post more than once.

I'll get you a Utah sized vomit bucket. Looks like you'll need it on November 8.

 

[Susanna]

Exactly what flavored Kool-Aide is it you're consuming?

I don't think you need to worry about that. Let's get back to this the day after November 8.

 

[Susanna]

I thought it was funny. Maybe it's a case of political dyslexia and the names got reversed .
Oh well it has been a unusual election year I am sure we shall hear or read even more,(let's say unusual) thoughts or opinions about the candidates in the few days left.
Blessings
Bill

I'm glad you're feeling amused.

 

[tanakh]

At least the end would be quicker. Nothing worse than a long lingering death from radiation poisoning

 

[Desdichado]

What I'm saying is that Obama has been in charge, if the phrase "in charge" is passable regarding his lack of determination when it comes to foreign policy.

But that still renders Clinton's agreement with/consent to these actions up for debate. We are ultimately left with one of two assumptions barring the release of evidence.

I'll have to go with what seems to be based more in fact- Obama made feckless foreign policy decisions. I have no evidence of her dissenting. If anything, what we have is her implementing that policy with vigor, and failing to show a hint of dissent during or after her tenure as Secretary of State. Particularly on the campaign trail.


I mean sure in 2008 she ran on a hawkish platform, but that is just about the best we have.

 

[Susanna]

But that still renders Clinton's agreement with/consent to these actions up for debate. We are ultimately left with one of two assumptions barring the release of evidence.

I'll have to go with what seems to be based more in fact- Obama made feckless foreign policy decisions. I have no evidence of her dissenting. If anything, what we have is her implementing that policy with vigor, and failing to show a hint of dissent during or after her tenure as Secretary of State. Particularly on the campaign trail.


I mean sure in 2008 she ran on a hawkish platform, but that is just about the best we have.

They were, and they are, dependent on each other. After the inauguration, that is if she win, I believe their "friendship" will disintegrate. I don't like her much, have to admit that, but I have reason to think that DT will be too weak. Some foreign countries don't understand anything else than the will to be using military power when challenged. BHO has failed on that issue. With DT doubt will linger on.