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Omegatime

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A turmoil is coming on this world even before the Tribulation. How else could the coming one called the antichrist make a covenant with many including Israel?
 

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The US government does not need to worry about going bankrupt.

They won't have to pay the price, you will. They will simply print money and your 401k with 500k will be worth the same as what $100 used to be worth. The banks will go bankrupt, the loan on your house will be called in and everyone will be unemployed. There will be a brief period of "readjustment", perhaps 3 years, and then the people still alive will begin the long slow climb out of the hole, probably taking 25 years.
 

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A turmoil is coming on this world even before the Tribulation. How else could the coming one called the antichrist make a covenant with many including Israel?
Problem with that theory is Jesus said they will be eating, drinking, marrying and giving in marriage at the time that Noah enters the ark which would be the rapture. Likewise with Lot He said they would be buying, selling, and building right up until fire falls on Sodom.

So I think we are given the pattern in the Passover week. Jesus flips the tables of the money changers, next day he curses the fig tree and it withers up by the roots, and the next day He is arrested and crucified.
 

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Problem with that theory is Jesus said they will be eating, drinking, marrying and giving in marriage at the time that Noah enters the ark which would be the rapture. Likewise with Lot He said they would be buying, selling, and building right up until fire falls on Sodom.

So I think we are given the pattern in the Passover week. Jesus flips the tables of the money changers, next day he curses the fig tree and it withers up by the roots, and the next day He is arrested and crucified.
Your timing and mine are far different
 

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Your timing and mine are far different
The only thing standing between us and AGI is the size of the computer. Depending on how you want to calculate AGI it will be here in 2024 through 2026. Yes, we theoretically can have it this year but realistically and practically speaking it will take a couple of years to build the computers and infrastructure (these things take a lot of power).

According to Revelation the Beast is seen rising out of the sea during the tribulation. Well, by 2026 the Beast will have risen out of the sea and will no longer be rising. So in my understanding the tribulation begins before that time.

Also, I understand that the US is the Mystery, Great Babylon whose judgement comes in one hour. When that happens I would equate that with Jesus flipping the tables of the money changers and cursing the fig tree (saying to this mountain to be cast into the sea). I don't believe the US dollar can last past 2026. It could collapse sooner, but I don't believe it will last longer.

Also, based on Hosea I believe Jesus returns to the mount of Olives 2,000 years after he ascended. Since we believe that was between 31 and 33ad that would mean the tribulation has to begin between 2024 and 2026
 

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Your timing has some basis and we know we are close and yes it is based on 2000 years. Beast out of the sea rising I see coming at the end of the Trumpet judgements and I do not see USA anywhere in scriptures and not as mystery Babylon. I have a projected start date for the Tribulation on Feast Trumpets in year 2025.
 

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8.5 million egg laying hens culled in the last month!


It will take 5-6 months to replace these hens. So if this is an attack on the US food supply prior to an assault, you can expect the assault before August.

Since 2019 the price of eggs has risen by almost 50%
 

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Yesterday the economic news was terrible. We discovered that the US governments data on jobs is a massive lie. Inflation is through the roof. Debt is rising faster than the GDP so with every stimulus dollar we spend the hole gets deeper. Yet, the stock market is up. A major mistake people make is equating the stock market with the economy. The stock market only represents the economy for those who own stocks. As far as 80% of Americans are concerned inflation and jobs are far more important to them than the stock market. Generally if people are losing jobs then inflation will be low. It is usually only when everyone is employed that inflation heats up. But now we have both inflation and people losing their jobs. That is a double whammy to workers who must spend whatever savings and retirement accounts they had.

Also note that if inflation is up and the stock market is up it is merely keeping pace with inflation. Wealth management is "relative". As long as you are doing "better" than the average person it is considered good. Treading water is good if everyone else is drowning.

But this is the curse of AI. All these fortune 500 companies will be seeking to cut costs in this environment and the easy way to do that right now is with AI. That means more layoffs. It also means more money will be made on making the computers for this AI and for generating the power necessary to run it.

Wars are fought over resources. Energy and silver will become critical. Data is the new oil. That means that companies like Google will be the target for war the same way the MidEast has been.

Consider this, the US can print money, that is a huge advantage in this AI arms race. However, if the US were hit with a massive surprise attack much bigger than 911 it would cause the dollar to collapse and BRICS to surge. That would give the advantage to Russia, China and India. At the moment the impact from AI is hitting China and India much harder than it is hitting the US.
 

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Yesterday the economic news was terrible. We discovered that the US governments data on jobs is a massive lie. Inflation is through the roof. Debt is rising faster than the GDP so with every stimulus dollar we spend the hole gets deeper. Yet, the stock market is up. A major mistake people make is equating the stock market with the economy. The stock market only represents the economy for those who own stocks. As far as 80% of Americans are concerned inflation and jobs are far more important to them than the stock market. Generally if people are losing jobs then inflation will be low. It is usually only when everyone is employed that inflation heats up. But now we have both inflation and people losing their jobs. That is a double whammy to workers who must spend whatever savings and retirement accounts they had.

Also note that if inflation is up and the stock market is up it is merely keeping pace with inflation. Wealth management is "relative". As long as you are doing "better" than the average person it is considered good. Treading water is good if everyone else is drowning.

But this is the curse of AI. All these fortune 500 companies will be seeking to cut costs in this environment and the easy way to do that right now is with AI. That means more layoffs. It also means more money will be made on making the computers for this AI and for generating the power necessary to run it.

Wars are fought over resources. Energy and silver will become critical. Data is the new oil. That means that companies like Google will be the target for war the same way the MidEast has been.

Consider this, the US can print money, that is a huge advantage in this AI arms race. However, if the US were hit with a massive surprise attack much bigger than 911 it would cause the dollar to collapse and BRICS to surge. That would give the advantage to Russia, China and India. At the moment the impact from AI is hitting China and India much harder than it is hitting the US.

Yep it's way better to just take the stimulus money and split it among the elected an appointed officials as a bonus like they did in Texas instead of giving it to those slacker barista low income citizens that don't understand that tax dollars are always suppose to be reallocated and end up in the ruling officials pockets instead of actually going to the people who paid taxes...

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/22/texas-counties-covid-hazard-pay-attorney-general/
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/23/texas-supreme-court-guaranteed-income/
 

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Yep it's way better to just take the stimulus money and split it among the elected an appointed officials as a bonus like they did in Texas instead of giving it to those slacker barista low income citizens that don't understand that tax dollars are always suppose to be reallocated and end up in the ruling officials pockets instead of actually going to the people who paid taxes...

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/22/texas-counties-covid-hazard-pay-attorney-general/
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/23/texas-supreme-court-guaranteed-income/
The people from the government are here to help.

You see the biggest problem America has is the love of money, it is the root of all sorts of evil. So they take that temptation away from the people and it will help many to turn to the Lord and be saved.
 

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The people from the government are here to help.

You see the biggest problem America has is the love of money, it is the root of all sorts of evil. So they take that temptation away from the people and it will help many to turn to the Lord and be saved.

Well no point in crying about having to pay back the 7.9 trillion dollar debt from C-19 if your content with the officials splitting it among themselves... There were "four officials" in the first article who returned the checks though so at least four officials didn't love the money over right and wrong...
 

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Well no point in crying about having to pay back the 7.9 trillion dollar debt from C-19 if your content with the officials splitting it among themselves... There were "four officials" in the first article who returned the checks though so at least four officials didn't love the money over right and wrong...
I am simply thankful that all things work out for good to those that love God.

 

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The house built on sand


Did the Big Repo Scheme Just Start? 04/30/2024
 

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BIDEN ECONOMY: Americans Are Pulling Back on Vacations, Travel and Restaurants to Save Money
Hmm, I just dropped over $200 at Pappadeaux for a 3 pound lobster, and a halibut with Shrimp and brussels sprouts (Yum). And the place was crowded. BUT HEY!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE HORRIBLY (but well fed in my case).
 

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Hmm, I just dropped over $200 at Pappadeaux for a 3 pound lobster, and a halibut with Shrimp and brussels sprouts (Yum). And the place was crowded. BUT HEY!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE HORRIBLY (but well fed in my case).
"Let them eat lobster, halibut and shrimp"

Good to know that people are still eating and drinking. How about weddings, do you see anyone getting married or giving in marriage?

The one thing you got wrong is no on is saying that "we're all gonna die horribly". Jesus never said that and the Bible doesn't say that. Noah and the "seven" with him were rescued, and Lot and his two daughters were rescued. Cheers.
 

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Kennedy questions Cohen on inflation in Budget 05 01 24


Average electricity prices up 29% during Biden's administration.
 

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Costco has wiped out all the authorized purchasers of US Silver Eagles

 

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PROOF EVERYONE IS GOING BROKE!

 

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Biggest Landlord In NYC Is Going BANKRUPTED


It is very clear that companies are being forced to sell buildings for a small fraction of what they bought them for. When they are vacant and you can't afford the expense you have no choice but to sell. But here is the thing, if the market were truly honest these sales would immediately reprice all the other real estate and you would have banks and investors going bankrupt all over the city. Now you can't hold down the truth forever. So what happens is if you immediately refinance stuff and people go bankrupt it is like a pot on the stove boiling over. If you don't do that it is like a pressure cooker and the pressure to explode keeps rising. At some point it will explode and it will be far worse than simply boiling over.
 

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Yes, a BRICS Currency Was Announced. No, It Hasn’t Launched