The hatred of Jews

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Nehemiah6

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Reconcile 1 Corinthians 13:1 - 13 with a rogue nation murdering thousands or tens of thousands of civilians
You bias is clearly showing. Contact the leaders of Hamas and invite them to send their Islamist terrorists to the United States. The could have a lot of "fun" slaughtering civilians.
 

HeIsHere

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You bias is clearly showing. Contact the leaders of Hamas and invite them to send their Islamist terrorists to the United States. The could have a lot of "fun" slaughtering civilians.

@Moses_Young was so right, how does you even make a statement like this.
Beyond belief.
 

Nehemiah6

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@Moses_Young was so right, how does you even make a statement like this. Beyond belief.
Well let's take it to its logical conclusion. If Moses believe that the Jews in Israel are the real terrorists, he has also excused the Islamist terrorists at the same time. So why not go the "extra mile" and invite these "innocents" to come to the USA and slaughter civilians? (or not). Then he can see for himself if they are harmless.
 

Nehemiah6

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On another note, when Christians defend the sovereign nation of Israel and its Jews to defend their right to exist in Palestine, it definitely does not mean that we are defending the evil Jewish billionaires around the world at the same time.

They must not be defended, because not only do they hate other Jews, but they hate all the people in the world, and and are spending their billions specifically to destroy humanity (in various ways). They are working for Satan, and George Soros is just one example. There are probably a dozen such Jewish billionaires, and I am sure many of you know their names.

Also, while they have made their billions through capitalistic America, they are working night and day to destroy the republic, and replace it with a Marxist/Fascist/Racist state, where there are no free and fair elections. Soros has also been funding corrupt DAs who are destroying the judicial and law enforcement systems in America every day.
 

HeIsHere

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Well let's take it to its logical conclusion. If Moses believe that the Jews in Israel are the real terrorists, he has also excused the Islamist terrorists at the same time. So why not go the "extra mile" and invite these "innocents" to come to the USA and slaughter civilians? (or not). Then he can see for himself if they are harmless.
I am quite sure that he is referring to the government officials, leaders/IDF and those who support and are executing crimes against humanity.
 

HeIsHere

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On another note, when Christians defend the sovereign nation of Israel and its Jews to defend their right to exist in Palestine, it definitely does not mean that we are defending the evil Jewish billionaires around the world at the same time.
You don't support evil billionaires except that you defend the result of their actions which was to start a world war to obtain a section of land and then by force remove the indigenous people, oh that's right they are Arabs, no such thing as Palestinians, the were squatters God never gave them permission to be there.

The fortunate ones get to to live under the banner of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" but deny these right to others and put them in a cage for years because there is only one group who wants all the land they were never interested in a two state-solution, they used stalling tactics each time.

On record Hamas were democratically elected as people knew of the corruption in the PLO and they came into office looking for a resolution and were rebuffed each time and then began to grow a more militant arm

So in summary, the evil machinations of these evil billionaires can be defended when it aligns with God's supposed ultimate plan, except for the fact that both Darby and Scofield were also supported by these same evil billionaires we should not defend.
 

Moses_Young

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Well let's take it to its logical conclusion. If Moses believe that the Jews in Israel are the real terrorists, he has also excused the Islamist terrorists at the same time. So why not go the "extra mile" and invite these "innocents" to come to the USA and slaughter civilians? (or not). Then he can see for himself if they are harmless.
No. I have simply argued that just because one group of terrorists committed atrocities does not give another group the right to commit equivalent or worse atrocities using the excuse that the first group started it. Ironically, and perhaps inadvertently, you have just provided justification for the Hamas actions which you claim to despise. Perhaps it is you who should be inviting the Hamas leaders to the United States? Note that I don't recommend this, as I am reasonably sure Trump and the US military are going to deal with criminals, traitors and terrorists as they should have been dealt with long ago before the US government became corrupt.
 

HeIsHere

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In memorial, :( on June 8th, 1967 of the naval attack against USS Liberty, the world’s most sophisticated intelligence ship, inflicting 34 dead and 173 wounded American servicemen
(a casualty rate of seventy percent, in a crew of 294).




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A 14 Nov.1986 letter from Congressman Gary Ackerman (NY), to a constituent
states in part: "However, submarine photography taken during the incident indicates that the
Liberty may have been under siege for approximately two hours.

Further, it was later discovered that the Israelis had warned the U.S. to keep all intelligence ships away from their coast
during the war. In fact, after the arrival of the Liberty, the Israelis warned Washington to order the ship to leave the area.
link


Sad something can be reduced to a trope. Justice denied.
 

Yahshua

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In memorial, :( on June 8th, 1967 of the naval attack against USS Liberty, the world’s most sophisticated intelligence ship, inflicting 34 dead and 173 wounded American servicemen
(a casualty rate of seventy percent, in a crew of 294).




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A 14 Nov.1986 letter from Congressman Gary Ackerman (NY), to a constituent
states in part: "However, submarine photography taken during the incident indicates that the
Liberty may have been under siege for approximately two hours.

Further, it was later discovered that the Israelis had warned the U.S. to keep all intelligence ships away from their coast
during the war. In fact, after the arrival of the Liberty, the Israelis warned Washington to order the ship to leave the area.
link


Sad something can be reduced to a trope. Justice denied.
It's antisemitic to bring this up. Truth is antisemitic.
 

Bob-Carabbio

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I stand by Israel and the Jews!
As we should.

However that doesn't mean that the Israelites are doing the right thing in the middle east. FOR SURE they have good human reason for their actions, but that doesn't make REVENGE the proper course of action. And when they defeat "Hamas" (if they manage to) there's still hoards of satanically driven Islamics to take Hamas's place.
 

HeIsHere

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It's antisemitic to bring this up. Truth is antisemitic.
Over the years I have watched the testimony of the crew of the ship and what they witnessed and experienced, many of whom proclaim faith in Christ Jesus, yet this snippet of history and how it has been reformulated (a trope) shows how this world operates.
 

Yahshua

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On another note, when Christians defend the sovereign nation of Israel and its Jews to defend their right to exist in Palestine, it definitely does not mean that we are defending the evil Jewish billionaires around the world at the same time.

They must not be defended, because not only do they hate other Jews, but they hate all the people in the world, and and are spending their billions specifically to destroy humanity (in various ways). They are working for Satan, and George Soros is just one example. There are probably a dozen such Jewish billionaires, and I am sure many of you know their names.

Also, while they have made their billions through capitalistic America, they are working night and day to destroy the republic, and replace it with a Marxist/Fascist/Racist state, where there are no free and fair elections. Soros has also been funding corrupt DAs who are destroying the judicial and law enforcement systems in America every day.
Which is more important: the plan that the Almighty has established or the plan the Jewish billionaires have establish?

...Because it's those Jewish billionaires that planned and funded the creation for the current state of Israel. They pay for politicians to outlaw any criticism or contradiction of that governments actions.

Meanwhile the Almighty planned that He (through His Son, in the flesh) would lead His people back once He returned and not beforehand.

To defend the current state is to defend the works of those Jewish billionaires.
 

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Over the years I have watched the testimony of the crew of the ship and what they witnessed and experienced, many of whom proclaim faith in Christ Jesus, yet this snippet of history and how it has been reformulated ( a trope) shows how this world operates.
Indeed it do. Our boys on that boat were peacefully fishing for shrimp and those Israeli's started attacking us for listening to our country songs and talking bout how they don't like our rights to shoot bears!
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Over the years I have watched the testimony of the crew of the ship and what they witnessed and experienced, many of whom proclaim faith in Christ Jesus, yet this snippet of history and how it has been reformulated (a trope) shows how this world operates.

HisH you know that Israel has paid money to the families and also to the US, in fact I believe they gave more again after they first gave. That doesn't mean that every person is happy with the outcome. And as we see, proclaiming faith in Christ doesn't mean a person still can't be biased or racist. I know a wonderful Christian lady who is racist. She doesn't believe she is. I flat out told her she was according to the Bible. She didn't like it, and she doesn't bring it up around me. But when you have a problem with a black person marrying a white, that's racism. Israel is an ally, our only one in the ME. Not Hamas.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Indeed it do. Our boys on that boat were peacefully fishing for shrimp and those Israeli's started attacking us for listening to our country songs and talking bout how they don't like our rights to shoot bears!
I'mma gonna go out on a limb and call that fake news. :D
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Which is more important: the plan that the Almighty has established or the plan the Jewish billionaires have establish?

...Because it's those Jewish billionaires that planned and funded the creation for the current state of Israel. They pay for politicians to outlaw any criticism or contradiction of that governments actions.

Meanwhile the Almighty planned that He (through His Son, in the flesh) would lead His people back once He returned and not beforehand.

To defend the current state is to defend the works of those Jewish billionaires.

God made an everlasting promise that He would gather the Jews back to their homeland again. In 48 God prophetic timeline began a countdown. The Jews are home again. We are nearing His second appearing.
 

Yahshua

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God made an everlasting promise that He would gather the Jews back to their homeland again. In 48 God prophetic timeline began a countdown. The Jews are home again. We are nearing His second appearing.
He said He would keep His promise when He returned after they turned back to Him, and not beforehand.

Man doesn't get to force an outcome and then claim it's The Almighty's doing. Each time man tried that it resulted in more problems, as we are currently seeing.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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He said He would keep His promise when He returned after they turned back to Him, and not beforehand.

Man doesn't get to force an outcome and then claim it's The Almighty's doing. Each time man tried that it resulted in more problems, as we are currently seeing.
He is keeping His promise. He has brought them back to the land, it has begun. The dry bones are coming together, these are the first steps.
 

Yahshua

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He is keeping His promise. He has brought them back to the land, it has begun. The dry bones are coming together, these are the first steps.
No, He hasn't because He told us in scripture that He wouldn't until they turned back to Him (from committing their sin of rejecting His rules and His son) and until He returned.

So again, either we believe what we're seeing with our eyes or we believe ALL of His words that are written, not just some of them.

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We need to dispell this notion that just because something happens that it was ordained by The Almighty.

1. Adam and the forbidden fruit. If we claim The Almighty ordained sin to enter into the world we are not studying. Man disobeyed and then The Almighty had to fix the problem by providing His Son.

2. The Almighty promised Abraham a son. It didn't happen fast enough for those promised (Abraham and Sarah), so they forced the promise with Hagar, creating the line of "wild men" we have today (whom He then blessed to be a nation, but I digress..).

The Almighty, in His time, provided the promised Son through Sarah, never counting Ishmael as the firstborn because He never ordained the birth of Ishmael. Again, Ishmael was created but he didn't count as fulfillment of the promise.

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Man has a tendency of trying to force Almighty's hand and then claim it is His will when He is clear on how things are meant to play out, because HE will get all the glory, not man with man's strength or might...or money.