The Miraculous Victory of New Philadelphia (USA) DA (attorney), Larry Krasner, and His Dramatic Justice Reforms for the Poor and Oppressed in America!

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You need to do better fact checking on the George Soros foundation.
Who Is Organizing the Protests Against President Trump?

Antifa Is Trying to Ignite a Civil War

Antifa is a network of loosely affiliated anarchist and Communist groups
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-communist-origins-of-the-antifa-extremist-group_2282816.html

Many of the protests attended by Antifa members
are organized by a group called “Refuse Fascism.”

The goal of Refuse Fascism,
https://refusefascism.org/

According to its website, Refuse Fascism is primarily sponsored by the Alliance for
Global Justice, a self-described “people’s think tank” that funds a wide variety of
far-left groups.

The Alliance for Global Justice is in turn funded by the Arca Foundation, the Ben
and Jerry’s Foundation, the Brightwater Fund, the Foundation for Deep Ecology,
the Hill Snowdon Foundation, the Tides Foundation and the Open Society Foundations
(an international grant-making network founded by billionaire George Soros).


according to Eva Sahana, a 22-year-old organizer, is to
“drive out the Trump and Pence fascist regime.”
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/23/inside-the-lefts-plans-to-occupy-trump-215518

Refuse Fascism was cofounded by Dr. Cornel West,
https://refusefascism.org/2017/01/0...rnel-west-and-carl-dix-on-the-oreilly-factor/

a prominent member of the Democratic Socialists of America,
https://www.dsausa.org/

and Carl Dix, a founding member of the Revolutionary Communist Party.
https://revcom.us/

Unlike the Communist Party usa (which works with progressives inside the
Democratic Party to gradually transform America into a socialist state),
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/29/communist-party-usa-working-with-the-democratic-pa/

the Revolutionary Communist Party believes the way to defeat capitalism
is through a people’s revolution.

Refuse Fascism is now organizing protests against the Trump administration.
The plan is to protest until President Donald Trump and Vice President
Mike Pence are somehow removed from office.

Internal presentations from a Refuse Fascism conference reveal that these
protests are designed to make America’s leaders “lose respect and legitimacy
in the eyes of people here and internationally.”
https://dailycaller.com/2017/08/21/...ericas-leaders-lose-international-legitimacy/

The radical left is stirring up so many problems in America.
Some on the radical left believe they are bringing down President
Donald Trump, but are they instead bringing down America itself.
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You like to quote Isaiah, here is one for you

Isaiah 1:7 says, “Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land,
strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.”
 

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No one is trying to do away with the laws of the land, only to see that they are updated to the 21st Century, and are in keeping with God's perfect balance of justice and mercy--the two-edged sword of Jesus.
You will see that justice reform, as is being implemented by people like Larry Kashner, is blessed by God, is here to stay, and, like a Tsunami, can not be stopped...
It is not ethical, or biblical, to implement discriminatory justice, unequal justice, or excessive punishment that violates the 8th and 14th amendments of the laws of the land of the USA, or to criminalize addictions, poverty, disabilities, gender, or socio-economic inequalities, or to destroy the lives of citizens for illogical, inconsistent, and often unknown legal technicalities.
 
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I'm all for returning to God's perfect balance of justice and mercy.

Let's start by saving billions of dollars and executing those found guilty of capital offenses and sentenced to death. One man is scheduled to die this coming Thursday that has been on death row for 38 years! Where is the mercy in this? All those innocent lives that have been shattered by this persons utter disregard for the life of it's victim can now be at peace, having been avenged.

This will free up the funds needed to house the rest of those that should be behind bars.
 
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You will see that justice reform, as is being implemented by people like Larry Kashner, is blessed by God, is here to stay, and, like a Tsunami, can not be stopped...
Do more research the end goal here is socialism.

Socialism is antithetical to scripture.
 

HeraldtheNews

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I'm all for returning to God's perfect balance of justice and mercy.

Let's start by saving billions of dollars and executing those found guilty of capital offenses and sentenced to death. One man is scheduled to die this coming Thursday that has been on death row for 38 years! Where is the mercy in this? All those innocent lives that have been shattered by this persons utter disregard for the life of it's victim can now be at peace, having been avenged.

This will free up the funds needed to house the rest of those that should be behind bars.
Talk to me if one of your kids breaks an unknown law, or doesn't even break a law, or you send them there to "teach them an important religious lesson about discipline," ends up in custody, and dies 3 days later from PTSD-induced institutional shock. Or is held in solitary confinement for shop-lifting a candy bar--
or is coerced under threat of harm to sell a controlled substance, and is sentenced to 25 years in prison. This has happened.
Would you be at peace, knowing that the law, which you apparently worship as an idol, was avenged?
 

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Just a couple of organizations that endorsed Larry Krasner

Erotic Service Providers Union
https://www.espu-usa.com/

Liberty City LGBT Democratic Club
https://krasnerforda.com/the-latest/2017/4/13/libertycity-lgbt-endorse

Would God except these endorsements for office ?
As well....

Krasner persevered in the Democratic Party’s primary after establishment forces failed to united around a single candidate, splitting their support between several contenders. His ground game was buoyed up by canvassing muscle provided by a number of unions and liberal activist groups. To seal the deal, his message was further amplified by $1.7 million in funding from billionaire hedge fund manager George Soros.

https://philadelphiapartisan.com/2018/05/14/wild-unprecedented-reformism-the-case-of-larry-krasner/
 

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No one is trying to do away with the laws of the land....
Well Philadelphia is a Sanctuary city.
Do you believe this is ok to harbor criminals?

America’s immigration is all the worse because of “the fundamentally different
and conflicting goals of federal and local agencies.”
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“So-called sanctuary policies make all of us less safe because they intentionally undermine
our laws and protect illegal aliens who have committed crimes,” Sessions said in his statement.

“These policies also encourage illegal immigration and even human trafficking by perpetuating
the lie that in certain cities, illegal aliens can live outside the law.”
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/atto...nnounces-immigration-compliance-requirements-edward-byrne-memorial
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“Sanctuary cities … attack the very basis of citizenship,” wrote Melanie Phillips in the Times
of London. “As a condition of belonging to a nation, an individual undertakes certain duties,
such as obeying the rule of law or paying taxes, in return for benefits such as being protected
by the police or armed forces. Tolerating illegal immigration makes a mockery of this civic
bargain and thus undermines the very basis of the nation.”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/patriots-wont-put-up-with-abuse-of-us-laws-9m807zltm
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The Trump administration is going to face some difficult decisions about how to enforce the law
in a nation where mayors obstruct justice and encourage lawlessness. Meanwhile, on the streets,
a segment of American society is digging in and making itself “ungovernable” in protest against
the president. Anger and bitterness are running high and, at times, erupting in violence.

The situation threatens to bring about civil unrest. If America is to survive as a nation, it needs
more than a president willing to enforce the law; it needs a people willing to uphold the rule of law.

When a nation’s own law enforcement agencies pick and choose which laws to enforce depending
on which political party is in power, the nation is in a very dangerous situation.
 

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God's perfect balance of justice and mercy--the two-edged sword of Jesus.
The biblical model of government places the responsibility for an individual’s life on
that individual. The governmental system is very lean. It gives individuals and families
a tremendous amount of economic and personal freedom—and accountability.

The Creator of human beings understands it perfectly. This is why His Word
says that if anyone does not work, neither should he eat (2 Thessalonians 3:10).

This is why His Word promotes the economic system of every man under his own
vine and his own fig tree. This is why His Word says that we all eat the fruit of our
doings, that we all receive our own reward according to our own labor, that we each
must give an account of ourselves, that He rewards each man according to his works
and renders to every man according to his deeds.

This is why His Word says that the responsibility of feeding each family rests on the head
of that family providing for his own, especially for those of his own house (1 Timothy 5:8).

It does not say to rely on government social programs that pay you diminishing amounts
of benefits in return for you relinquishing your vote, your power and responsibility over
your own life.

When a government simply takes from the producers and the wealthy, and gives to the
poor in exchange for votes, it is ignoring these basic biblical truths and commands.

God says, Cursed is the man who trusts in man! (Jeremiah 17:5).

The big-government socialist model ignores the principles of human nature contained
in the Bible, ignores the limitations of human beings revealed in the Bible, ignores the
system of government established in the Bible.
 

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Can anyone name a single example of successful, sustainable socialism ?
 

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The situation threatens to bring about civil unrest. If America is to survive as a nation, it needs
more than a president willing to enforce the law; it needs a people willing to uphold the rule of law.

When a nation’s own law enforcement agencies pick and choose which laws to enforce depending
on which political party is in power, the nation is in a very dangerous situation.
The people, and law enforcement will uphold the rule of law as written, when the laws reflect the 21st century, true justice, and sustainable enforcement, i.e., officers are not risking their lives, endangering others by making unnecessary contact with citizens based on laws that are not based on reality, or are obsolete, or inconsistent with other states (America), and officers always have the right to pick and choose which laws to enforce based on safety, and priority, and necessity--
 
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officers always have the right to pick and choose which laws to enforce based on safety, and priority, and necessity--
When this happens we are in big trouble.
 

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Sorry not sure how you come-up with the city of Philadelphia in the U.S.,
that has anything to do with a church in Asia.

Or how the Philadelphia Eagles football team won
because of Isaiah 40, and an asteroid at that time.

This is not biblical at all and just fantasy.
Same name-- I don't believe it is a coincidence; The Bible is full of signs like this-- you don't see a correlation between a football, and an asteroid?
Isaiah 40:5&10--
"And the glory of the Lord will be revealed,
and all people will see it together." (Is. 40:5)
"See, the Sovereign Lord comes with power," (Is. 40:10)

The final score was 41-33; Isaiah 41:8-10--
“But you, Israel, my servant,
Jacob, whom I have chosen,
you descendants of Abraham my friend,
I took you from the ends of the earth,
from its farthest corners I called you.
I said, ‘You are my servant’;
I have chosen you and have not rejected you.
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;

I will uphold you with my righteous right hand." (Is. 41:8-10)

The superbowl, February 4th, 2018 started at 6:30PM EST
The asteroid, passed by the earth at about 4:30 PM EST, 2 hours before the game-- at 2.6 million kilometers and is about 1.2 k across
 

HeraldtheNews

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When this happens we are in big trouble.
I just meant that officers can, and do, practice legal triage-- I think it's a part of their job, unless they are dispatched. If they are routinely surveying traffic, or a neighborhood, or a street, or even monitoring a bank, or observe a tinted window, expired license plate, and they see a drunk driver drive by, or other suspicious activity, they will prioritize the more serious activity.
I didn't mean that anyone would target a citizen based on their political position, or the position of an administration, or target higher fines. To be honest, if I was a police officer, and someone drove by with a loud muffler, or expired tags, that looked less dangerous,, personally I would wait until it was dispatched. This was said to be happening here at one time.
Or maybe conversely--

But, people are human and subject to variables-- someone might be more apt to confront a street violation at the beginning of their shift, than at the end after a bad ghetto day.

Same with us pizza drivers. One time, I was tired, in pain, and probably depressed, and kind of cut off a big, loud truck by mistake in my little car. He got an attitude, and got up on my back bumper and flashed his high-beam laser-lights in my rear-view mirror. I didn't have to, and was just trying to "p* him off," like Maverick and Goose, so I slowed, wayyy down. This got the guy enraged of course, and wasn't very brilliant on my part since I was coming up on a traffic light, with a company sign on my car. He got out of his truck and shouted at me "you wanna FIGHT!" "YOU WANNA FIGHT!!" I just ignored him, and drove back to the store.
I have to admit it was a little fun, and good therapy, but, definitely not a good way to stand up to bullies.

I've always had a low anger response and control over my anger and wouldn't waste my time on a dangerous encounter. If I get p* I just express it in socially acceptable ways, although sometimes passive-aggressively in years past, by taunting political rivals with street corner signs. I pretty much gave it up, since some radical Islamic dude started ranting in my face, and it tended to draw the crazies-- And, it is a commandment of God to at least begin with choosing to forgive our enemies, even if we can't on the spot, and it takes supernatural grace. One guy said, "at least choose the right hill to die on..."
Let the Lord fight them all--
He already defeated them on the right hill;
Let the police fight crime-- they have the right equipment;
try and be a dolphin today, instead of a shark...
 

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mistake on the asteroid, which is not currently considered a threat; it passed by the earth at about 4.2 million kilometers, not 2.6 million. it was 2.6 million miles. but, it's massive size-- 2.6 kilometers ( less than a mile .7 ) if it were to hit the earth, would cause an apocalyptic ice-age and darkness for decades. To me, that is clearly symbolic.
 

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The biblical model of government places the responsibility for an individual’s life on
that individual. The governmental system is very lean. It gives individuals and families
a tremendous amount of economic and personal freedom—and accountability.

The Creator of human beings understands it perfectly. This is why His Word
says that if anyone does not work, neither should he eat (2 Thessalonians 3:10).

This is why His Word promotes the economic system of every man under his own
vine and his own fig tree. This is why His Word says that we all eat the fruit of our
doings, that we all receive our own reward according to our own labor, that we each
must give an account of ourselves, that He rewards each man according to his works
and renders to every man according to his deeds.

This is why His Word says that the responsibility of feeding each family rests on the head
of that family providing for his own, especially for those of his own house (1 Timothy 5:8).

It does not say to rely on government social programs that pay you diminishing amounts
of benefits in return for you relinquishing your vote, your power and responsibility over
your own life.

When a government simply takes from the producers and the wealthy, and gives to the
poor in exchange for votes, it is ignoring these basic biblical truths and commands.

God says, Cursed is the man who trusts in man! (Jeremiah 17:5).

The big-government socialist model ignores the principles of human nature contained
in the Bible, ignores the limitations of human beings revealed in the Bible, ignores the
system of government established in the Bible.
The biblical model of government places the responsibility for an individual’s life on
that individual. The governmental system is very lean. It gives individuals and families
a tremendous amount of economic and personal freedom—and accountability.

The Creator of human beings understands it perfectly. This is why His Word
says that if anyone does not work, neither should he eat (2 Thessalonians 3:10).

This is why His Word promotes the economic system of every man under his own
vine and his own fig tree. This is why His Word says that we all eat the fruit of our
doings, that we all receive our own reward according to our own labor, that we each
must give an account of ourselves, that He rewards each man according to his works
and renders to every man according to his deeds.

This is why His Word says that the responsibility of feeding each family rests on the head
of that family providing for his own, especially for those of his own house (1 Timothy 5:8).

It does not say to rely on government social programs that pay you diminishing amounts
of benefits in return for you relinquishing your vote, your power and responsibility over
your own life.

When a government simply takes from the producers and the wealthy, and gives to the
poor in exchange for votes, it is ignoring these basic biblical truths and commands.

God says, Cursed is the man who trusts in man! (Jeremiah 17:5).

The big-government socialist model ignores the principles of human nature contained
in the Bible, ignores the limitations of human beings revealed in the Bible, ignores the
system of government established in the Bible.
I agree that many social programs promote entitlement (thinking God or society owes you something); The issue isn't social programs, but efficiency. Government programs are very difficult to run since they meet the needs of so many people, and it is not easy to determine the needs of people with physical pain or emotional pain such as depression that can not always be easily seen. Someone who would say that if someone doesn't work, they should not eat, has never suffered from severe emotional or spiritual disabilities. The Bible is about being assertive and not enabling people or feeding entitlement. But, it's also about compassion. We're all kind of alike in that as beloved people of the earth, called to be sons and daughters of Heaven, yet still having a fallen nature, many people think the world owes us a favor (entitlement), and many people want to earn our way into God's favor--it's just a natural way of seeing the world without the Light; It's the way of the world. That's why the way of salvation is offered as a free-gift; there's no money in heaven, and we can't buy it.

The example of successful business and hard work like president Trump, is that hard work pays off, at least in America and many other free-market countries. There is even an example of good responsible stewardship and investing that Jesus gives (don't have time to look it up); And I think the economy at the time of Christ was more a free-market, or survival of the fittest, but, Paul made a plea for Church help during a famine, and Jesus didn't use money (although He made references to responsible stewardship of finances and spiritual/social responsibilities)--"if you are responsible over little, God will set you over much," and this can be reflected by our bank account management.

And the Bible does say, "put not your hope in [mortal man]"
And says that only God can deliver on true justice--

(PSALM 146---1-7 New American Standard Bible; biblehub.com)

Praise the LORD!
Praise the LORD, O my soul!
I will praise the LORD while I live;
I will sing praises to my God while I have my being.

Do not trust in princes,
In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.


His spirit departs, he returns to the earth;
In that very day his thoughts perish.

How blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob,
Whose hope is in the LORD his God,

Who made heaven and earth,
The sea and all that is in them;
Who keeps faith forever;

Who executes justice for the oppressed;
Who gives food to the hungry.
The LORD sets the prisoners free.