The politics of Gay rights.

[kaylagrl]

The wishful thinkers are old generation traditionalists. But they are becoming a minority, just as such things that are normalised of an age in life, are.

Life/God had to push them out, because if God didn't overrule the generation of 'this is the way it is' and then in 50 years want it to still be the way it 'was', we would still have slavery, and many other cruel things which have been wiped out by progress and change, good triumphing.

What people don't understand here in their self-interested views on human life, is that they are siding with cruelty.

Look at what the Muslims do to the gays in other countries. And yet no-one here will agree that there is a similarity between them and Muslims. No-one here will say, yes that's a good thing about Muslims, even though in the darkest corner of their mind they enjoy that gays are treated with such cruelty. I see Muslims as being somewhat 100s of years in the past.

These people wish for something in God's name, and think they speak for God and what God wants. And they will use the Bible as proof and justification, for their OWN self-purpose. Is there an example of Muslims who say they are Muslims and use the Quran for their proof and justification for something? But if God wanted gays to be wiped out or suppressed into nothingness, then we wouldn't have such good in the world that makes it more inclusive.

These people have issues with Love.

And someone who has an issue with Love, needs a Monster to focus on. If there was a 'majority' witch-hunt on gays and they were going to experience all forms of cruelty out of it, I wonder how many of the people here would tag along - but in their weakness, stand at the side and say yeh I'm not a part of this.

There have always been people with issues with Love, that's why God is important.

It's so easy for people to judge a group of people, when that group of people are not here defending themselves. They are not here because, it is isn't such a welcoming place for such people is it? Full of love.

If you want to change or inspire people to do the right thing, according to what you believe is right, you can't do it without Love. And you can't judge people and then expect them to think, yeh I'll listen to this ass, just like anyone who is judged thinks, because it is true.

People who have issues with Love, express Lovelessness. But in their need to hide that, and give a face of love, they will word it nicely. But it all comes from the same source. Them, and not from God.

This has to be one of the funniest and at the same time saddest things Ive read in this forum. smh

 

[Dude653]

Why can't I support everyone's rights? I don't care if you're gay, straight, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, satanist,.. America is about freedom.

 

[preacher4truth]

Why can't I support everyone's rights? I don't care if you're...

You care if one is conservative.

In a bad way of caring.

You show great disdain for anyone conservative, anyone Biblical in their stance, anyone sound in doctrine.

 

[Dude653]

You care if one is conservative.

In a bad way of caring.

You show great disdain for anyone conservative, anyone Biblical in their stance, anyone sound in doctrine.

You're allowed to be conservative. If you think it's wrong to do something then by all means don't do it.
But you don't have the right to force your conservatism on someone else
That's where most people get it twisted

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Why can't I support everyone's rights? I don't care if you're gay, straight, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, satanist,.. America is about freedom.

you don't seem to support the rights of Christians to take a biblical stand against what God says is sin

in fact, pretty sure I have read where you say things like you would not want to shove anything like that down someone's throat and then of course you get well that is what they are doing...shoving their beliefs down everyone's throat and suing Christians who won't bake them a cake when they know full well there are many of their own kind who would not only bake them the cake of their defiled dreams, but be happy to do so

koo koo

 

[Tommy379]

Vote for me!
The queens can bugger all they want, and the bakers can tell them to hit the road.

 

[Inquistor]

The contradiction was when you quoted the Constitution but then quoted the Bible at the end. The Constitution says that you can't use your religion to discriminate against someone.
So if I own a business I can't discriminate against someone who's gay because the Bible tells me not to associate with that person.

Strict interpretation of the "Free Exercise Clause" disagrees with your assertion above!

 

[Susanna]

I'm curious as to why people are spending so much of their energy on whether gay people are excercising their civil rights in an inappropriate manner or not.

They, and others, have constitutional rights, like it or not.

It doesn't look good when people are turning a group of other peoples rights into something suspicious, and by that, degrading that specific groups rights.

I don't believe that attitude necessarily is restricted to their views on gays. I think this is a general attitude in many people, myself included, to be hammering others for whatever reason...and it has nothing to do with the people you/we are giving a hard time, but it has got everything to do with ourselves.



And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Matthew 7:3

 

[Inquistor]

I'm curious as to why people are spending so much of their energy on whether gay people are excercising their civil rights in an inappropriate manner or not.

They, and others, have constitutional rights, like it or not.

It doesn't look good when people are turning a group of other peoples rights into something suspicious, and by that, degrading that specific groups rights.

I don't believe that attitude necessarily is restricted to their views on gays. I think this is a general attitude in many people, myself included, to be hammering others for whatever reason...and it has nothing to do with the people you/we are giving a hard time, but it has got everything to do with ourselves.



And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Matthew 7:3

Political correctness should NOT override scriptural instructions!


2 Thessalonians 3:6
Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from any brother who leads an undisciplined life that is not in keeping with the tradition you received from us.

2 Thessalonians 3:14
Take note of anyone who does not obey the instructions we have given in this letter. Do not associate with him, so that he may be ashamed.

 

[Gracie_14]

I will agree with you on that point which is why I don't understand why the left so wholeheartedly Embraces Islam. There are Islamic countries where it is actually illegal to be gay

for the first time, i agree on this one lol

 

[Adstar]

I'll refer you to my response to max..

The only thing I'm bothered by is cherry picking

Your post was not about people cherry picking.. Your post was about people sinning and calling them hypocrites..

We all sin.. Christians and non-christian alike.. So calling Christians hypocrites is basically telling unbelievers to avoid becoming Christian if they want to avoid being called a hypocrite..

And a hypocrite is one who does not live up to their own standards..

If a Christian is preaching the standards of the Bible correctly they are Not preaching their own standards.. They are merely being messengers of the standards of God.. So they cannot be called hypocrites..

 

[Adstar]

Where are the adultery threads? Abused kids threads?
Dad left for another woman threads?

Waggles, others destroy children not just gays...

You're abandoning topics that need just as much attention..


That's my whole point!

Let's council all not some..

It's at the expenses of the victims that you do so.... They go unnoticed.. once again

If you're going to be heroes be fair

Society is not having adulterer pride parades.. They are not having Child abuser pride parades.. They are not having child abandonment celebrations..

But society is having Homosexual pride parades and instituting laws that shall lead to criminal convictions and prison time for Christians refusing to service the abomination of homosexual weddings and preaching that the sexual act of homosexuality is an abomination to God.....

The reason we speak a lot about homosexuality is not because we are just cherry picking sins.. It is because many western societies are pushing the homosexuality is not sin line and we shall throw you into prison for hate speech if you dare to say homosexuality is sin in public..

 

[notuptome]

Why can't I support everyone's rights? I don't care if you're gay, straight, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, satanist,.. America is about freedom.

Why don't you support Godly holiness and purity? Is perversion a right or an affront?

Freedom is being changed into licentiousness by your philosophy.

Civilized society depends on the government to limit the rights of people to protect people from themselves. This requires men to be in government who have character and integrity based on Godly principals.

Your rights end where my rights begin.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Adstar]

Marxists and other progressive politics types are determined to destroy
the family - mums and dads living with their children; being responsible for
raising their own children as OK people with the skills and framework to do
it all over again for the next generation.

Satan's little helpers [and he has many] want to destroy the historical and
religious legacy of traditional family life so that un-Godly regimes can take over
the role of parenting.
When the State takes on the parenting role from cradle to kindergarten to school
to employment to retirement - then we have our Brave New World - a belated but
terrifying 1984.
There are powerful forces at play in what we refer to as progressive liberal Humanistic
politics that are determined to de-Christianize the West.

The Marxists want to ferment a revolution but instead of dividing the world into the workers and the rich elites as it did to ferment the Russian revolution and many of the early revolutions such as in places like China.. They came to understand that in the western world,, with it's relative widespread prosperity,, it was harder to ferment the poor victim vs the rich oppressor model using the workers vs the rich people narrative..

So the Marxist went for a different victim vs oppressor narrative in the west.. The Cultural Marxist decided to work on minorities in western nations to convince them that they where victims of white male, bigoted and racist oppression.. Problem is that a minority does not have the numbers to overthrow a majority in a civil war.. So the Marxist had to keep adding more and more categories of created victims to boost the number of people they could motivate to ""bash a fash" and ""kill a white baby ""and bring down the evil white patriarchy.. So they added the members of the LGBT and more to their groups of victims needing to unite to fight the evil white male oppressors.. The biggest group of people they brainwashed into victim status where white woman who the motivated to become 3rd wave feminist doing everything they can to undermine their white dads brothers and sons to bring down the ""evil white Christian patriarchy"" They even allied themselves to islam.. Thus they created a demographic mass of people who combined outnumber the majority,, which to them has been carved down to white straight Christian conservative males.. They already have the a lot of the antifa type young white beta males as warriors who desire to club their dads to death..

So now we await some racial or terrorist spark where the protests end and the bloodshed starts and the western society and civilization is finally burnt top the ground.. And the victim groups who have nothing in common beyond their delusion of victimhood turn upon each other and tear each other to shreads..

How long do you think the islamic jihadists will put up with the feminists white woman and their disgraceful S --- walks? and their man splaining protests?? 2 minutes ? 30 seconds.. Those white feminists woman will be sex salves sooner then they can scream rape.. It's going to be savage..

 

[Adstar]

That's not what I said though. I said Christianity in the black community can be traced back to slavery which is completely historically accurate.

Black African Ethiopians became Christians centuries before Germans became Christians.. You only learn the propoganda your teachers push upon you.. It is so easy to destroy the false narrative you brain washed people have been fed because of your ignorance of accurate world history.. Go one now look up Ethiopian Christian history.. Learn something for once before you trumpet with pride your so called historical knowledge...

The first Ethiopian became a Christian when he was preached to by the Apostle Phillip.... Just after the death and Resurrection of Jesus.. So a Black African Ethiopian became a Christian before most European nations ever became Christian nations..

 

[MichaelOwen]

You're allowed to be conservative. If you think it's wrong to do something then by all means don't do it.
But you don't have the right to force your conservatism on someone else
That's where most people get it twisted

I don't force the conservatism I have on anyone, but I do let my ideas be known, and how I feel be known. On the flip side, Democrats and gay rights activists have NO PROBLEM whatsoever forcing their beliefs and their actions on me, and yet I have to sit there and take it, and if I don't I'm prejudice and racist? I value what my Lord says stand on ALOT MORE versus what a man who has rights to be gay or Democratic says.

 

[mj007]

It's good when people can admit that their anti-homosexual stance is based on being a coward. That it is just not loving. However you try to word it.

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[Adstar]

Is not believing a sin or is it ignorance?

If the Gospel message is given to a person and they disbelieve it then yes it is their sin..

 

[Adstar]

I will agree with you on that point which is why I don't understand why the left so wholeheartedly Embraces Islam. There are Islamic countries where it is actually illegal to be gay

There is a lot you don't understand because you have been blinded..

 

[MichaelOwen]

It's good when people can admit that their anti-homosexual stance is based on being a coward. That it is just not loving. However you try to word it.

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See, here's where you don't get it, and so many other Christians fall prey to this......Yes we are told by God's word to love these people, BUT, we are not to associate with them! That's from God's word, not mine! The biggest reason why the church is falling away, is because so many pastors, preachers, teachers, ministers are bringing more and more of the world into church, and not more of the church into the world. Any church that would condone gay couples and marriages and allow that go on in their church seriously needs to have a come to Christ meeting.