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jennymae

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No I'm not being harsh, but when people post stuff you always respond we should spend more time in the Bible....yes I agree but that does not mean we have to read the Bible 24/7 God wants us to know what's going on around us as well....being Bible- man/woman doesn't help if someone is coming with a gun to your house to kill you....you can read the Bible all you want but unless you are aware of an intruder coming you will be caught off guard...this is an extreme example but the idea is true...read the Bible with one eye and keep the other on your surroundings lol...

About sources....do you really expect news from NBC and ABC (GE and Disney respectively) corporation backed to tell you the truth? If you can refute my sources, which is why you asked for them lol (with sources outside of the MSM that lies like huff post, abc etc) then please go ahead and I will listen....
There is nothing to be critical of my sources....I even posted from the bbc b/c I expected you to take this turn in the conversation lol....I hate the bbc but even they show biden's son is on the gas board? A major conflict of interest that will never be reported in the American MSM b/c it throws shade on biden which in turn throws shade on Obama....what is the son of a foreign government official doing in a war zone like Ukraine in which his own country is also involved in (US)? It is subversion and using inside power to control outcomes in the region and country for corporations and for the world elite....
Are you having me mixed up with somebody else? I don't recall ever saying on here to read the Bible 24/7. I responded to your post which clearly was advocating the position of a regime situated in the eastern part of Europe.
 
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Ultimatum77

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It is true...

But I think you know(?) that Ultimatum77 and I have mostly the same beliefs when it comes to the medical field and the validity of life style choices with health.
I did not read the article he posted though. In fact I don't even know what is going on here that prompted it.
But if he posted it, there is a good chance I am going to agree with at least most of it.
But again, I did not read it yet...
Yea some major politicking on this thread lol, but just showing how the MSM never tells the complete truth only what we want to hear....Alternative Media (AM) although lambasted by many helps give a clearer picture of the truth in many (not all) instances....
I like AM b/c it has no corporate agenda usually unlike cbs, abc, who are all owned by universal, disney etc...and want you to think a certain way....with no room for questioning....
 
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Ultimatum77

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Are you having me mixed up with somebody else? I don't recall ever saying on here to read the Bible 24/7. I responded to your post which clearly was advocating the position of a regime situated in the eastern part of Europe.
Hmm...okay well my impression from the quote "and you spend your precious time on this?" was going to be turned into "we should read the Bible and not worry about the world" ( a common response that people on CC use and really makes absolutely no sense b/c it advocates being naive to things in the world that could impact their lives dramatically). If that was not what you meant by that comment I apologize :) I'm not trying to come across as attacking but it is so tiring to hear the same response to things that may challenge the individual's beliefs and they respond with a type of Jesus juke of "just read the Bible" yea okay but that alone isn't what Jesus would have wanted I think when he said watch and pray b/c we don't know the time or hour....and to see the signs/seasons in time not just be like OT jews who enjoyed reciting the law/reading it over and over again....without knowing that their Messiah was literally present and they were too blinded by "bible reading" to even realize it. :)
 

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Yea some major politicking on this thread lol, but just showing how the MSM never tells the complete truth only what we want to hear
I think it's more accurate to say they only tell us what THEY want us to hear.

It's a known fact that major news networks fabricate stories out of thin air, and pass them off as "news".... there have been a couple of major "anchors" that have lost their jobs over it... once they were caught, of course, and the public outcry was so loud, the companies had to ease them out the door..

I'm sure if they could have swept it under the rug, it would have been same-old, same-old....
 
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Mitspa

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I THINK congress has less than a 10% approval among the people ...I believe the most recent polls show less than 10% of the American people trust the MSM ... Why we have people on this forum trying to defend them is very strange?
 

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Conservative radio host: ‘We’ve created this monster’ of fact-hating right-wing voters




Supporters of Donald Trump at rally (Photo: Joseph Sohm / Shutterstock)


In an interview with Business Insider’s Oliver Darcy, a conservative radio host lamented the fact that conservative media has conditioned its followers to distrust the mainstream media so much that they have become fact-free “monsters.”

In a tweet promoting an upcoming piece on rightwing media, Darcy posted an excerpt from an interview with conservative radio host Charlie Sykes who claims candidates like Donald Trump can say anything on the stump without fear of being fact-checked by the likes of Fox News or conservative websites.

“We’ve basically eliminated any of the referees, the gatekeepers. There’s nobody. Let’s say that Donald Trump basically makes whatever you want to say, whatever claim he wants to make. And everybody knows it’s a falsehood,” he explained. “The big question of my audience, it is impossible for me to say that. ‘By the way, you know it’s false.’ And they’ll say, ‘Why? I saw it on Allen B. West.’ Or they’ll say, ‘I saw it on a Facebook page.’ And I’ll say, ‘The New York Times did a fact check.’ And they’ll say, Oh, that’s The New York Times. That’s bullshit.'”

According to Sykes, any attempts to continue fighting back against misinformation is dismissed with complaints that he has “sold out,” adding, “Then they’ll ask what’s wrong with me for not repeating these stories that I know not to be true.”

Sykes warned “There’s got to be a reckoning on all this.”


“We’ve created this monster,” he warned. “Look, I’m a conservative talk show host. All conservative talk show hosts have basically established their brand as being contrasted with the mainstream media. So we have spent 20 years demonizing the liberal mainstream media. And by the way, a lot has been justifiable. There is real bias. But, at a certain point you wake up and you realize you have destroyed the credibility of any credible outlet out there.”

“And I feeling, to a certain extent, that we are reaping the whirlwind at
that,” he continued. “And I have to look in the mirror and ask myself, ‘To what extent did I contribute?'”






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Further proof of the corrupting nature and right wing slant of the controlled news media as admitted by a right winger.
 

hornetguy

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You've just destroyed your own argument that the msm is conservative...

In your quoted article, the person said that Trump can say anything without being fact checked by Fox News (ONE msm outlet)or conservative websites.

He didn't say, Trump can say anything without being fact checked by MSNBC, or CNN, or CBS, or ABC.... he only mentioned FOX....which means that Fox is the ONLY conservative leaning msm outlet in this country.

So much for your claim that the msm is promoting Trump...

Now, go make up something else...
 

peacenik

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Actually, he mentions the NY Times and the MSM though not by name.

By the way, sorry as I meant to edit out a part of it but had to step away from my desk and did not return in time to do the proper editing.
 
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Ultimatum77

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You've just destroyed your own argument that the msm is conservative...

In your quoted article, the person said that Trump can say anything without being fact checked by Fox News (ONE msm outlet)or conservative websites.

He didn't say, Trump can say anything without being fact checked by MSNBC, or CNN, or CBS, or ABC.... he only mentioned FOX....which means that Fox is the ONLY conservative leaning msm outlet in this country.

So much for your claim that the msm is promoting Trump...

Now, go make up something else...
Lol, who made the NYT the "gatekeepers/referees" they have such bias it's not even funny or legit to call them a referee which by nature are supposed to be fair and not have a bias....

These articles are jokes...by sour republicans b/c they aren't supporting globalist junkies like Cruz/Bush....people are sick of globalists....

This is exactly what the left does....they always project their own sins on others....utter hypocrisy...the liberals if shown facts about non-existent global warming will stop their ears and ignore those facts....show them numbers on actual unemployment rates, burden of social welfare programs on the national debt....all facts and they will say you made it up....this is truly laughable.....

Yes, ‘global warming’ is a hoax and here’s the proof

Sorry, But The Real Unemployment Rate Is 9.8%, Not 5% | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD
 
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jennymae

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I am bit exhausted by people saying that the people not supporting Trump are liberals. Today I read on here that Trumps wife has a porn connection, I can't even say out loud what kind of porn it is:(, it is too horrendous)...and yet people are supporting him? Good grief!

I am a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment, I'm pro life and most certainly a conservative. I will not lett people bully me into supporting Trump. He is not a conservative, never has been and never will be.
 
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I am bit exhausted by people saying that the people not supporting Trump are liberals. Today I read on here that Trumps wife has a porn connection, I can't even say out loud what kind of porn it is:(, it is too horrendous)...and yet people are supporting him? Good grief!
What else would you expect the liberals to say ? She posed nude as a model when she was in her 20's. And yes, a few shots were on the racy side with another woman but they were side by side shots. Here's the thing. Melanie hails from Europe where topless beaches are more the norm than the exception. European's don't react to nudity in the same manner that we here in the west do. Ironically, I'd wager that far more liberals would avail these topless beaches than conservatives would. And interestingly enough, wouldn't it make sense that today's lesbian circles would voice their support of Melania if these media claims were actually true ? Why would they criticize and voice their displeasure over one who showcased their lifestyle as "acceptable" ? The answer is obvious. She doesn't.
 
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Mitspa

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[TD]Conservative radio host: ‘We’ve created this monster’ of fact-hating right-wing voters

Conservative radio host: ‘We’ve created this monster’ of fact-hating right-wing voters




Supporters of Donald Trump at rally (Photo: Joseph Sohm / Shutterstock)


In an interview with Business Insider’s Oliver Darcy, a conservative radio host lamented the fact that conservative media has conditioned its followers to distrust the mainstream media so much that they have become fact-free “monsters.”

In a tweet promoting an upcoming piece on rightwing media, Darcy posted an excerpt from an interview with conservative radio host Charlie Sykes who claims candidates like Donald Trump can say anything on the stump without fear of being fact-checked by the likes of Fox News or conservative websites.

“We’ve basically eliminated any of the referees, the gatekeepers. There’s nobody. Let’s say that Donald Trump basically makes whatever you want to say, whatever claim he wants to make. And everybody knows it’s a falsehood,” he explained. “The big question of my audience, it is impossible for me to say that. ‘By the way, you know it’s false.’ And they’ll say, ‘Why? I saw it on Allen B. West.’ Or they’ll say, ‘I saw it on a Facebook page.’ And I’ll say, ‘The New York Times did a fact check.’ And they’ll say, Oh, that’s The New York Times. That’s bullshit.'”

According to Sykes, any attempts to continue fighting back against misinformation is dismissed with complaints that he has “sold out,” adding, “Then they’ll ask what’s wrong with me for not repeating these stories that I know not to be true.”

Sykes warned “There’s got to be a reckoning on all this.”


“We’ve created this monster,” he warned. “Look, I’m a conservative talk show host. All conservative talk show hosts have basically established their brand as being contrasted with the mainstream media. So we have spent 20 years demonizing the liberal mainstream media. And by the way, a lot has been justifiable. There is real bias. But, at a certain point you wake up and you realize you have destroyed the credibility of any credible outlet out there.”

“And I feeling, to a certain extent, that we are reaping the whirlwind at
that,” he continued. “And I have to look in the mirror and ask myself, ‘To what extent did I contribute?'”






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Further proof of the corrupting nature and right wing slant of the controlled news media as admitted by a right winger.
haha ..listened to conservative radio my whole life ..never even heard this guys name mentioned ... probably another Mormon ..who claims to be a "conservative"
 
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Mitspa

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so 6% of Americans trust the media ... they are almost all liars
 

peacenik

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More criticism of the Fox network by one of their own!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTQ5VmvCrFQ





POLITICSA FOX Host Just Went Rogue Live On Air, Admitted The Network Is A Sham















On the August 17 broadcast of ‘Fox Five,’ host Eric Bolling tried to do some electoral voodoo and convince himself and his viewers that although Republican nominee Donald Trump has appallingly low numbers in polls, he is actually ahead in the presidential race because there are large crowds at his rallies. Cohost Dana Perino calls out Bolling for deliberately lying to the audience and denying reality.
Perino: “Eric that is it’s a real disservice to his supporters to lie to them that those polls don’t matter you can’t take 12000 people at a rally that are your definite supporters, that are going to show up and campaign, and then say the polls are wrong.”
Bolling: “They’re not out there voting. People getting out on the streets and going to a rally, those are people who get up off the couch and go hear something, go say something.”

Perhaps it is worth noting that Trump supporters are not going out and voting since polls do not open until November 8. No one is going out and voting, and it is fallacious to assume that rally numbers directly correlate with the number of voters who will turn out at the polls.
Bolling and another co-host Greg Gutfeld attempted some arithmetic gymnastics as they quickly ran through an incomprehensible argument about voters at home cancelling out voters who are out. This was supposed to explain why the polls provide a wildly inaccurate view of the race. Again Perino called them out.
Perino: “But when the polls are good you say the opposite.”
Bollings: “Size of crowds is more indicative of following.”
As Perino goes on to explain, Romney supporters in the 2012 election were promised that Romney would win because the polls were wrong and rallies were a better indicator. Romney resoundingly lost, roughly by the margins predicted in the polls. Denying the accuracy of polls is a desperate delusion that flies in the face of reason. Polls are specifically developed and updated to accurately depict public opinion of candidates. Wishing the polls were wildly wrong is not going to change anything.
 
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Mitspa

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haha.... Perino has been anti-Trump from the beginning ..she has no clue

12000 people at a rally almost every day in every city ..when Hillary cannot get 100 ...is exactly why Trump is going to win... #MAGA
 
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Mitspa

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CNN is a complete hoax ...
[video=youtube;ePdAJgOmt-8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePdAJgOmt-8[/video]
 
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Depleted

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Ok, this is simply a "rant"....

Anyone with any ideas that the media is unbiased toward the liberal agenda is simply living in dreamland.

I just took a morning break at work, where they had CNN on the tv, and got to watch a "news segment" that lasted at least 30 minutes, of nothing but Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton, giving a campaign speech.

This is "news", and NOT a political advertisement, of course.

Donald Trump gets perhaps 10-15 seconds, out of context, making him look as "buffoon-ish" as possible (not difficult, mind you)

The state of our "free press" is sickening.

Rant off.... I feel somewhat better.... :rolleyes:
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