This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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bojack

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flu shots tend not to be effective. There have been outbreaks of virus in groups of people that refuse to be vaccinated. The Amish, Hasidic & some Christian groups. Also of course they still have a lot of virus in third world nations where they do not vaccinate.
I don't take them because I don't trust them for the very reason we're discussing on this thread ..
 

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flu shots tend not to be effective. There have been outbreaks of virus in groups of people that refuse to be vaccinated. The Amish, Hasidic & some Christian groups. Also of course they still have a lot of virus in third world nations where they do not vaccinate.
Soooooooooo?????

It's not like such a thing would never be imagined to happen. Only - these groups of people would rather get through [whatever] with-and-by God's natural means than to trust in man's manufactured methods.
 
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Do you think that "sticking our head in the sand" and not doing anything but "cowering in the corner in fear" is a choice that God will approve of?
Most people seem to be going that route. I just did some research on Shi Zhengli (bat women) This virus came from bats she found in the Yunnan caves. This virus did not come from bats being sold in the Wuhan wet market. The first person to have this disease was a technician at the Wuhan viral institute where they were doing a study on this disease with a 3.7 million grant from Francis Collins and our tax dollars. Even though they had shut down the research in 2014 because it was considered to be to dangerous. I wonder if there was corruption involved in that 3.7 million dollar grant in 2017. I liked Collins. I read his book and it is sad that he is implicated in this.
 

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Soooooooooo?????
The point is a lot of people would not be alive today if it were not for the vaccines. Why does that present itself as a problem to you? You are free to choose for yourself what you want to do. The problem is when you try to influence others to do something that could be harmful for them.

20 % of the population in 1950 is a lot less individuals than 20% of the population today. So a lot of people are alive today because of the lives they saved in the 50's so they could reproduce and give us the population we have today.
 
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There are a lot of -
We can go over this as many times as you want until it finally sinks in. People that are harmed by a vaccine will be harmed even more by the virus itself. The vaccine may have a degree of risk for the individual but the risk of NOT having a vaccine is a lot greater. WE vaccinated POPULATIONS not individual. The individual may have to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the population. It is like a face mask, the mask is designed to protect others. There is no known personal benefit to wearing a face mask. The ideal situation is for everyone to be vaccinated except for you. Then you have no risk from the vaccine and you have no risk of getting sick from others. My father administered the vaccine program in our community in the 50's so that is why I know a little bit about what was going on back then. My brother is a little bit older than me so he actually saw the children in iron lungs at the time. Do you really want to give up the vaccine program and go back to that?
 

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We can go over this as many times as you want until it finally sinks in. People that are harmed by a vaccine will be harmed even more by the virus itself. The vaccine may have a degree of risk for the individual but the risk of NOT having a vaccine is a lot greater. WE vaccinated POPULATIONS not individual. The individual may have to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the population. It is like a face mask, the mask is designed to protect others. There is no known personal benefit to wearing a face mask. The ideal situation is for everyone to be vaccinated except for you. Then you have no risk from the vaccine and you have no risk of getting sick from others. My father administered the vaccine program in our community in the 50's so that is why I know a little bit about what was going on back then. My brother is a little bit older than me so he actually saw the children in iron lungs at the time. Do you really want to give up the vaccine program and go back to that?
What do you think Biden was talking about here, does it sound like a future agenda ?
 
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This is one of the greatest lies of Satan being perpetuated today - the idea that you cannot possibly know enough about [something] unless you have a PhD - or, that - if you have a PhD, you "automatically" know all there is to know about [something] and should be given "god-like" status... :rolleyes:
or, when you quote a news article or a YouTube as proof its a hoax, they declare its from the Right, Or the Left, to the GOP , or from someone else with an agenda so therefore cant be trusted a a source. Nonsense. They just don't want to hear the truth, I know of a deity like that
 

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What do you think Biden was talking about here, does it sound like a future agenda ?
IMO This 21 second vid is talking about not only rfid chips and vaccines but re-education death camps for Christians who refuse
 

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All I will say is I hope that all those people who are protesting against the state lock downs are medical experts same goes for
anyone who licks toilet seats
 
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What you need to understand is - at the very least - the more modern vaccines are a far cry different than the ones from "way back in the day"...

The are a lot of - and, a lot more of - "junk" chemicals in modern vaccines that can do irreparable harm to your body and mind.

The major concern with modern vaccines is that they are based on an agenda of population control - read that two ways - mind control and death.

If you (anyone) just cannot bring yourself to believe this, then - go ahead and take the risk. But, be sure you understand the risk you are taking.
I would say that people acting in accordance with opinions like this are part of the reason we can’t get rid of diseases that are contagious. You should listen to what JohnR7 is saying. I think he has a little more knowledge about this than you.
 
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What do you think Biden was talking about here, does it sound like a future agenda ?
Biden does not know what he is talking about. He is just repeating some conspiracy theory that he heard somewhere.
 
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What you need to understand is - at the very least - the more modern vaccines are a far cry different than the ones from "way back in the day"...
I can repeat this as many times as you want me to. We vaccinate populations NOT individuals. There is always a CHANCE of a risk to the individual. BUT that individual is at risk anyways and if we did NOT have a vaccination program they would be the first to get sick with a disease that is far worse then the side effects they they may be getting from the vaccine. My brother has done medical missionary work in third world nations that do not have vaccines and he has seen patients sick for virus that they could have been vaccinated for. We also see this in Amish, Hasidic & some Christian communities were they have an outbreak of a virus because for religious reasons the people did not vaccinate. West Seneca Christian School, a small private school, lost 10% of its population because parents refused to get kids vaccinated.

A good example of a vaccine is for HPV that can cause cancer. Cervical cancer worldwide has dropped because people are getting this vaccine. Michael Douglas went public because he had throat cancer from this virus. He is lucky to still be alive. Yet people say do not vaccinate our young people or give them condoms because this will encourage them to have sex outside of marriage. So they do not offer them the protection that they could have had. Even the Catholic Church now is allowing condoms. They are not saying it is right to have sex, they are just saying if you do then at least try to protect yourself.
 

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All I will say is I hope that all those people who are protesting against the state lock downs are medical experts same goes for
anyone who licks toilet seats
In a society where individual freedoms are valued the right to protest must be protected. I do not agree with what a lot of folks want to say but they do have the right to say it. I think the pastor in question was foolhardy to do what he did but he has a right to do it despite my opinion. Same goes for those inclined to lick toilet seats.

For my freedom to prosper everyone's freedom must prosper.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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I can repeat this as many times as you want me to. We vaccinate populations NOT individuals. There is always a CHANCE of a risk to the individual. BUT that individual is at risk anyways and if we did NOT have a vaccination program they would be the first to get sick with a disease that is far worse then the side effects they they may be getting from the vaccine. My brother has done medical missionary work in third world nations that do not have vaccines and he has seen patients sick for virus that they could have been vaccinated for. We also see this in Amish, Hasidic & some Christian communities were they have an outbreak of a virus because for religious reasons the people did not vaccinate. West Seneca Christian School, a small private school, lost 10% of its population because parents refused to get kids vaccinated.

A good example of a vaccine is for HPV that can cause cancer. Cervical cancer worldwide has dropped because people are getting this vaccine. Michael Douglas went public because he had throat cancer from this virus. He is lucky to still be alive. Yet people say do not vaccinate our young people or give them condoms because this will encourage them to have sex outside of marriage. So they do not offer them the protection that they could have had. Even the Catholic Church now is allowing condoms. They are not saying it is right to have sex, they are just saying if you do then at least try to protect yourself.
Repeat it as often as you like. If you want a vaccine injected in you for this disease, knock yourself out.

But understand myself, and virtually everyone I know, says you will have to forcibly inject, in prison, or kill us.
 

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All I will say is I hope that all those people who are protesting against the state lock downs are medical experts same goes for
anyone who licks toilet seats
Yeah! Right on! cause obviously licking toilet seats is the equivalent to protesting fascist, unconstitutional decrees.
 

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Biden does not know what he is talking about. He is just repeating some conspiracy theory that he heard somewhere.
Ha, Did you even watch it ? He was questioning Roberts in 06 or something when he was being voted on the SC
 
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Here are some facts. 1/ the WHO is financed and controlled by China and the Bill gates organisation 2/ The WHO is ran by a non doctor who is known to be corrupt and was working in the Zimababwe government, a good friend of Mogabe as well. China placed him there. 3/ The figures I find from reliable government sources state that the Flu kills more of the population per year than this so called virus does 4/ The mainstream media here in Australia is very loud, very shrill, and uses words like deadly, terrifying, danger and other such scare tactics They are also constantly running documentaries about it. 5/ we have had so called pandemics but have never shut down a whole economy , which has done more damage than the virus would have.
God bless Australia
 
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All I will say is I hope that all those people who are protesting against the state lock downs are medical experts same goes for
anyone who licks toilet seats
Have you investigated gates,deep state,nwo,who,deaths from viruses,pedophilia in congress,skull and bones,Podesta's canabalism,Bernstein, the Clinton's bizarre death club,the Clinton foundation,Ted talks,the FBI corruption and tyranny.....and many more?

All that has one agenda...nwo antichrist,and population reduction.

It is like you are cheering on earths free world destruction
 
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Hey everyone ! Leaving aside the biological weapon, let's only talk about the virus . WHO and Chinese government knew it has human to human transmission and community spread in December 2019. Taiwan CDC , Dr. Li Wenliang and Miles Kwok notified that the virus has human to human transmission in January 31 2020, meanwhile, WHO lied to the world people that the virus doesn't have human to human transmission. Do not trust every word which is from WHO and CCP ,you shall have more chances to survive in the crisis.
The virus is in the front of every humankind ! I hope every sisters and brothers in christ survive in the massacre ! 😢😢😢🙏🙏🙏