This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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Absolutely

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actually, sweden is not doing that bad, compared to others.

Sweden has 1517 cases per million.

my state , ga, has 1884 per million.

so, I am sure that Sweden has a higher population density than ga. and the state has been locked down for 2 1/2 weeks, many cities for over month.
Is it not amazing that once a person actually looks it up we see the lies that are driving the shut down crazy herd mentality.

Herd immunity ...good
Herd mentality....bad.

The news is duping people so bad.
 

EleventhHour

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I just read an article from a interview with swedish health officials

It said they will reach herd immunity in about a month.

Their current focus is on the elderly.
Their plan included shutting down sports events and other things.
So they appear to be the smart ones.
And how will they know they have reached herd immunity when they are not testing, and tell me do you know how long immunity lasts with this virus?
 

Absolutely

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Let's look further ...
What are your chances of acquiring corona?
.1%?
Factor that into 99% of those infected recover.

See that less than 1%die and what percent of the pop gets infected?

But wait...look at one more thing
Tons and tons get it,and either dont know it or have such a mild case that no statistion ever get them factored in.

So that makes the numbers even "worse" for the fearful msm programmed herd mentality.
Imagine that.
Good news is worse and to be challenged and poo pooed
 

TheIndianGirl

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Here is one article out of many th he msm WILL NOT TELL YOU.
"""For 98, 99 percent of people, this is going to be a mild illness," Sir Patrick said.
The UK's mortality rate is about 13% (approx 17000 deaths, 130000 tested positive). Sir Patrick's aloof statement is based on something else, not figures.
 

TheIndianGirl

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The UK's mortality rate is about 13% (approx 17000 deaths, 130000 tested positive). Sir Patrick's aloof statement is based on something else, not figures.
Early March when he said that was also the time when MSM was downplaying the virus; it wasn't even picked up in the DNC debate.
 

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The UK's mortality rate is about 13% (approx 17000 deaths, 130000 tested positive). Sir Patrick's aloof statement is based on something else, not figures.
Utter silliness and misinformation. That 13% is calculated without factoring in those who have recovered, and also the tiny amount of testing done in the population at large.
 

EleventhHour

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The UK's mortality rate is about 13% (approx 17000 deaths, 130000 tested positive). Sir Patrick's aloof statement is based on something else, not figures.
It is very difficult to make any comparisons... there are so many variables, the quality of health care, the accuracy of the testing etc., etc.,

Since most countries aside from South Korea and Taiwan who are always prepared and can react quickly, I think they have the most accurate numbers.
 

EleventhHour

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Utter silliness and misinformation. That 13% is calculated without factoring in those who have recovered, and also the tiny amount of testing done in the population at large.
Misinformation is everywhere that is the problem.
Case fatality has its problems for sure.
But here are the numbers.. UK is high... higher than the USA which has more confirmed cases, could be weak health care system, lot of people in poor health... so many reasons.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
 

EleventhHour

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Utter silliness and misinformation. That 13% is calculated without factoring in those who have recovered, and also the tiny amount of testing done in the population at large.
It actually does take in all confirmed cases.
The more testing a country does the less the number of deaths.. UK needs to speed up its testing.
 

PennEd

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It actually does take in all confirmed cases.
The more testing a country does the less the number of deaths.. UK needs to speed up its testing.
Why aren’t you coming out and reinforcing the fact that 13% death rate for those that have contracted coronavirus is absurd, and dangerous misinformation? Why would you spend your time trying to correct me? That narrative thing again?
 

EleventhHour

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Why aren’t you coming out and reinforcing the fact that 13% death rate for those that have contracted coronavirus is absurd, and dangerous misinformation? Why would you spend your time trying to correct me? That narrative thing again?
Why are you making this personal.
I am not trying to correct anyone.... I am balancing the equation.

There is nothing absurd about it........... less testing more deaths... ... more testing less deaths.. that is how it works.
 

PennEd

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Why are you making this personal.
I am not trying to correct anyone.... I am balancing the equation.

There is nothing absurd about it........... less testing more deaths... ... more testing less deaths.. that is how it works.
The testing simply proves the virus is not very virulent. That’s the point.

Someone could come on here and see the silly and dangerous 13% stat and actually think it’s true.

Blatant disinformation like that needs to be condemned by all sides.
 

EleventhHour

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The testing simply proves the virus is not very virulent. That’s the point.

Someone could come on here and see the silly and dangerous 13% stat and actually think it’s true.

Blatant disinformation like that needs to be condemned by all sides.
This information has to be understood for what it is no more, no less.
Maybe that is not possible... I dunno :(
 

TheIndianGirl

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The testing simply proves the virus is not very virulent. That’s the point.

Someone could come on here and see the silly and dangerous 13% stat and actually think it’s true.

Blatant disinformation like that needs to be condemned by all sides.
I would like to see some support on how the 13% is untrue, and maybe I'll change my mind. The 130,000 figure includes all Covid cases, including deaths and also those who recovered. Maybe the numbers would decrease as more people are tested, maybe not. As it turns out, a lot of people have been tested in the UK, 535,342 ppl. We should really measure against the 130,000 figure, as the 534,342 figure is meaningless as these people may not have been exposed yet.
 

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its funny when people quote statistics that have come about through testing snd data modelling and then someone else just says 99 percent of people wont get it.

well not FUNNY. just silly and dumb.
 

Lanolin

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People are confusing statistics with probability, which is a different set of PROJECTED data.
 

Absolutely

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its funny when people quote statistics that have come about through testing snd data modelling and then someone else just says 99 percent of people wont get it.

well not FUNNY. just silly and dumb.
99% recover.

But to not get it would be a much higher number