This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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PC123

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You are suggesting that the social media platforms did not censor before HCQ debate. They have been known for taking down antivaccine misinformation when that was quite the topic in the news before the COVID crisis. The debate raged then on whether they should be taking those posts down and they were on record as believing it was harmful to people.

The HCQ posts that say Take HCQ and it will keep you from getting the virus in your lungs is a lie and should be taken down. When doctors in lab coats stand up and say it in front of a government building with a senator it should be taken down because it is harmful if people started popping HCQ thinking it will keep them from getting the virus in their lungs. I watched the video and the second speaker the Male doctor made those statements and there is not only no such science to prove that but there is plenty of recorded data from these studies to prove that is not the truth. HCQ will not keep the virus from infecting your lungs like he said. It will not BLOCK the virus. They were right in taking it down so that ignorant people will not harm themselves by taking HCQ.

You call it censoring but I see it as the same policy they were already following with antivaccine misinformation. They consider it harmful to public health.

When their algorithms flag Trumps comments about "when the looting starts the bullets start" (if only that were true) they got blamed for hating on Trump, and they might, who knows, but it is also true that they already have these algorithms to catch posts that incite people to violence and block or flag those posts. Not everything is a conspiracy.

No one is taking down any scientific published data showing that the HCQ might be helpful such as the study I have already mentioned from the Henry Ford Medical Network. If they were seriously out to squash any positive data on HCQ that one would be the first to go, since it is one of the most convincing.
What can i say... U support censorship in science, i don't. Besides i have my physician who i trust
 

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Censorship in science...

Two groups of experts have different views on something but instead of going ahead with the scientific procedures one group gets cancelled by social media and mainstream media who themselves are not qualified to make such discernments...

The only way i can see this happening is if one group pays these media outlets to cancel the other group thus avoiding the science and debate all together... Not only do i regard this as unscientific but it makes me very skeptical of the party that is paying these media outlets to avoid science.

I am for they censoring "unproven" science
Proven according to one side. Unproven according to the other... Who decides to censor???
Science should take place and after some scrutiny and debate the truth prevails.
Instead the unqualified media is making these decisions which opens it up to corruption

And to say they were right to censor is just an admission of being unscientific
 

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Look at that. A billionaire giving back to a his country that made him rich! Good for him.

April 19, 2020 Gate’s Contraceptive Microchip to be Implanted into Women


The Eugenics (Population Control) Movement in the United States
https://education.blogs.archives.gov/2017/05/02/buck-v-bell/Three generations of imbeciles are enough.”
1597705331305.png Underlined Selection from Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Opinion in the case of Buck v. Bell


Bill Gates told The Financial Times April 8, 2020, “You don’t have a choice… Normalcy only returns when we largely vaccinate the entire population.” (he's referring to Covid 19)
“You Don’t Have a Choice – Normalcy Only Returns When We Largely Vaccinate the Entire Population” – Creepy Bill Gates Gets Creepier (VIDEO)
By Jim Hoft
Published August 2, 2020
 

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Kinda makes ya wonder why false positives for Covid 19 are being reported in America. Along with what sustains the, get tested, movement behind it all, as if not being tested could cause the worst outcome, the numbers of false deaths reported due to Covid 19.

I wondered if this virus was that bad why anyone would lie about test results and death numbers. Now, it isn't that hard to figure out. If our country is lying, what about other countries? And why? To reiterate a global pandemic and push the mandate for compulsory concession to a vaccine maybe?
 

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Censorship in science...

Two groups of experts have different views on something but instead of going ahead with the scientific procedures one group gets cancelled by social media and mainstream media who themselves are not qualified to make such discernments...

The only way i can see this happening is if one group pays these media outlets to cancel the other group thus avoiding the science and debate all together... Not only do i regard this as unscientific but it makes me very skeptical of the party that is paying these media outlets to avoid science.



Proven according to one side. Unproven according to the other... Who decides to censor???
Science should take place and after some scrutiny and debate the truth prevails.
Instead the unqualified media is making these decisions which opens it up to corruption

And to say they were right to censor is just an admission of being unscientific
The unqualified media goes along with the charade because it makes them feel significant and they love the warm fuzzy feeling inside.
 

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Here is the evidence direct from the official government web page. View attachment 220101
True. Try telling people down here and they try and bite your head off... Their cheering on Dictator Dan...
There is no leader in the western world that is doing a more totalitarian job than Dan i think...
He is purging the sick and old as well as the unemployed and lower class. Straight out of Stalins book
 

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The unqualified media goes along with the charade because it makes them feel significant and they love the warm fuzzy feeling inside.
There is more to it than that... They get paid... How many pharma ads are there on the TV in the states... They own the channels
 

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He has the patent on a worldwide vaccine.

He will harvest multiplied billions
Well ,if he cures billions of people, should'nt he be worth that? After all, We paid him billions to by a computer. How much more is this worth?
 
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He has the patent on a worldwide vaccine.

He will harvest multiplied billions
Did you fact check this? I am not saying you are wrong. I just can't find the vaccine that he has patented. All I could find were numerous fact check sites saying that it was not true and that he is funding vaccine development for several companies. I cannot even find that he is profiting from it but I would think that his foundation would be smart enough to invest in the stock of the companies they are funding so that they can give back even more when the vaccine is a success and the stock soars sky high. It would only be wise as long as the money goes back into the foundation and back into giving for good causes like vaccines. Can a non profit do that? I have no idea.
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-foundation-does-not-have-patent-coronavirus/
 
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Well ,if he cures billions of people, should'nt he be worth that? After all, We paid him billions to by a computer. How much more is this worth?
He does not need to make billions on the vaccine. He is giving billions to develop vaccines, and he still keeps making billions from all his current investments. I don't think there is any concerns about running out of money, and with Buffett also pledging the majority of his wealth to the Gates foundation there is no need for him to focus on profits. He says that he expects many of the companies he is funding to not pan out but if we get a couple of vaccines it will be all worth it. He knows that not all of the factories he is funding will be used, only a couple but they can't do them serially one at at time because that is too slow, they need to do them all at the same time or it will take too long and too many more people will die.
 

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LoL "fact checking"...:rolleyes:... Another new term for censoring...:censored:...
"Misinformation" is another term that means censoring...:censored:

All through the 80s, 90s and 2000s there was never any censoring, no "fact checking", no "misinformation", no cancel culture...
But now, all of the sudden, its like we need to be "fact checking" and looking out for "misinformation" ok cos its dangerous... Na

I'll give a hypothetical example. Lets say that America was going to send men to the moon but are torn over which approach to take.
Half of the scientists support approach A and say that approach B will lead to a catastrophe.
The other half support approach B and say that approach A will be a catastrophe.
Now there is no science anymore its all about cancelling...

So who does Mark Zuckerberg remove as "misinformation"? Who does CNN, BBC and the other media outlets cancel???
Neither of them are qualified scientists so how do they make the decision... Easy... It becomes an auction...
The group of scientists that can "ally" with the most media outlets will have their approach promoted and the opposing approach will be demonized...

This is not science...
"The science is settled, climate change is real, there is no debate, their just deniers" That is why climate change is false
"Vaccines are safe, the science is clear, it is not debatable, their just anti-vaxers" Vaccine safety is false
"Science says that you are born gay and if you disagree your a homophobe" Homosexuality is false
"Science says that boys can be girls and girls can be boys and if u disagree your a bigot" Transgerism is false
"Science says that all of life evolved from one organism if you don't agree your anti-science" Theory of evolution is false

Beware, whenever you see such tactics being employed to stifle debate then it is most certainly false...
This is just a tactic used by the left in politics and it has carried over into science where many now think its acceptable to replace scientific processes with it... Its that typical left attitude that their right and anyone who doesn't agree is wrong either morally or scientifically...
 
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LoL "fact checking"...:rolleyes:... Another new term for censoring...:censored:...
"Misinformation" is another term that means censoring...:censored:

All through the 80s, 90s and 2000s there was never any censoring, no "fact checking", no "misinformation", no cancel culture...
But now, all of the sudden, its like we need to be "fact checking" and looking out for "misinformation" ok cos its dangerous... Na

I'll give a hypothetical example. Lets say that America was going to send men to the moon but are torn over which approach to take.
Half of the scientists support approach A and say that approach B will lead to a catastrophe.
The other half support approach B and say that approach A will be a catastrophe.
Now there is no science anymore its all about cancelling...

So who does Mark Zuckerberg remove as "misinformation"? Who does CNN, BBC and the other media outlets cancel???
Neither of them are qualified scientists so how do they make the decision... Easy... It becomes an auction...
The group of scientists that can "ally" with the most media outlets will have their approach promoted and the opposing approach will be demonized...

This is not science...
"The science is settled, climate change is real, there is no debate, their just deniers" That is why climate change is false
"Vaccines are safe, the science is clear, it is not debatable, their just anti-vaxers" Vaccine safety is false
"Science says that you are born gay and if you disagree your a homophobe" Homosexuality is false
"Science says that boys can be girls and girls can be boys and if u disagree your a bigot" Transgerism is false
"Science says that all of life evolved from one organism if you don't agree your anti-science" Theory of evolution is false

Beware, whenever you see such tactics being employed to stifle debate then it is most certainly false...
This is just a tactic used by the left in politics and it has carried over into science where many now think its acceptable to replace scientific processes with it... Its that typical left attitude that their right and anyone who doesn't agree is wrong either morally or scientifically...
They were calling Bill Gates the Antichrist in the 90s and we were having to argue with nut cases back then and fact check fake websites. I remember. Where were you?

Science can be presented. There is no credible science presented about a gay gene. (except for those skinny jeans :LOL:)

If your debate defense it to claim that anyone who disagrees with you is part of the conspiracy then you have no defense and your theories fall further into disrepute, as well as your reasoning capabilities.

Since such posts like the one from the Henry Ford Medical Health System study that show that HCQ cut deaths significantly are not flagged or taken down it would lead me to believe that your theory is not accurate. There is no conspiracy to take down positive news about HCQ.

But these platforms are not government entities and they can allow what they want anyway. I think we will have to pass some laws controlling the freedom of these social media platforms and then will you champion their right to control their own companies without government controls or will you be on the side of CENSORSHIP from government imposed upon these companies. When the government tells them they cannot enforce their own content policies it will be an intrusion the rights of these individual corporations.
 

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They were calling Bill Gates the Antichrist in the 90s and we were having to argue with nut cases back then and fact check fake websites. I remember. Where were you?

Science can be presented. There is no credible science presented about a gay gene. (except for those skinny jeans :LOL:)

If your debate defense it to claim that anyone who disagrees with you is part of the conspiracy then you have no defense and your theories fall further into disrepute, as well as your reasoning capabilities.

Since such posts like the one from the Henry Ford Medical Health System study that show that HCQ cut deaths significantly are not flagged or taken down it would lead me to believe that your theory is not accurate. There is no conspiracy to take down positive news about HCQ.

But these platforms are not government entities and they can allow what they want anyway. I think we will have to pass some laws controlling the freedom of these social media platforms and then will you champion their right to control their own companies without government controls or will you be on the side of CENSORSHIP from government imposed upon these companies. When the government tells them they cannot enforce their own content policies it will be an intrusion the rights of these individual corporations.
* ahem

" cryptocurrency system using body activity data"


patent number " wo2020060606A1.

involves microchiping people.

owner of patent-microsoft.

what is in the patent number-666


so, " debunk " all you want.

i would rather use facts, like those above.