This is why I don't believe in being a "good Samaritan" anymore....

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Dude653

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One homeless couple abuses an act of kindness so no one should ever do anything else to help anyone. Okay...gotcha
 
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Ultimatum77

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One homeless couple abuses an act of kindness so no one should ever do anything else to help anyone. Okay...gotcha
Yup I quit on this idea a long time ago....it never comes back around and usually people abuse things nowadays.....
 

blue_ladybug

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If you EXPECT it to come back around, it won't. It's only when you're NOT expecting it, that it comes back around to you.. :) So if you do a good act, and expect it to go full circle, you're mistaken. God says to do good works, NOT do good works AND expect something in return.. Just saying..
 

Dude653

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If you're doing good deeds expecting the My Name is Earl Karma thing then you're doing it for the wrong reason anyway
 

p_rehbein

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I'm just thankful that Jesus did not adopt your ideology. I remember from Scripture where He healed the 10, but ONLY one returned to give thanks and praise to Him. He gave His life for ALL, yet the MOST will deny Him.

Charity does not require repayment. Charity is "unconditional" love. Sometimes, possibly even most times, that love will be abused, however, it IS how we are to love/live.
 
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kaylagrl

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One homeless couple abuses an act of kindness so no one should ever do anything else to help anyone. Okay...gotcha

That was funny right there,ya have to admit.
 
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kaylagrl

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Yup I quit on this idea a long time ago....it never comes back around and usually people abuse things nowadays.....

When you help someone you do it as unto the Lord. What they do with it is on them. Either way you get the blessing.
 

blue_ladybug

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Yeah but what if someone asks me for money, and I know for positive they'll use it to buy cigarettes, or drugs, then am I supposed to still give it, knowing I'm fueling (and funding) their habit(s)??
 
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But if they trash your hotel room you don't help that particular couple again.
 
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kaylagrl

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Yeah but what if someone asks me for money, and I know for positive they'll use it to buy cigarettes, or drugs, then am I supposed to still give it, knowing I'm fueling (and funding) their habit(s)??

Do like John Hagee did, never mind whether you like the man or no folks. He said when he was in the church one day a guy came in looking for help. He had an inkling that the guy wasn't on the up and up. He took money from his own pocket and offered it to the guy. He said if he truly needed it he prayed that it would be a blessing to him and his family and that they would prosper. But if he was lying he prayed that it would be a curse and everything he touched would fail. The guy turned on his heel and left without touching the money. Sounds like it would work to me.
 
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Ultimatum77

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But if they trash your hotel room you don't help that particular couple again.
Yup that is atroicious to leave a 1412 USD bill in damage after someone was so kind to give you money, presents, a room and food. If only public caning's were legal again...they should take those two homeless clowns put em in stocks and cane them......cue the pc peeps who will scream oh that's so inhumane....in 3...2..1....
 
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kaylagrl

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Yup that is atroicious to leave a 1412 USD bill in damage after someone was so kind to give you money, presents, a room and food. If only public caning's were legal again...they should take those two homeless clowns put em in stocks and cane them......cue the pc peeps who will scream oh that's so inhumane....in 3...2..1....

And this is where the rubber meets the road. Those who own nothing, value nothing. If you don't own it smashing it to pieces is nothing to you. There are certainly homeless people who would appreciate the gift that was given. But not everyone does. And then we go into the issue of Socialism and the culture that it creates. Margaret Thatcher said that everyone could give something and therefore they would value they country and things they had. Often times those who get a free ride do not appreciate it. But if it belongs to you,you have invested your money into it you will place value on it.
 
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Miri

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Unfortunately I've seen many homeless people with this sort of mentality.

In the UK there are centres where homeless people can go and get genuine help.
For example in the city where I live, there is a combined clinic / social services place
right in the city centre. Also a Christian run part funded by donations part by the council,
where homeless men can go and learn to live again. It's not just a bed for one night it's
a proper place to stay. Also there are many places for homeless women.

These places have rules like no drinking, drugs etc. They also offer the
help both medical and physiological to get clean from these addictions.
The people who are genuine and want to change go into these programmes, get off the
streets and turn their lives around - all they have to do is say YES.

But there are others who as soon as they realise they have to change and there are rules
to adhere to, they walk out. You can only help someone who wants help and is willing
to help themselves.

I know of a person who regularly sleeps rough and he is getting old now, he has
been on the streets for years and is an alcoholic. Loads of people tried to help him, but
each time he went back to his old ways saying he preferred living on the streets.

There is loads of help for the long term homeless like this.

The people who probably have it the hardest are ones who lose their home due to
getting into financial trouble. They seem to get the least help and end up sofa
surfing at different family and friends. They are still homeless but there is less help
available just because they are not off their head on drugs and drink. But no one
seems to bother about them.
 
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psychomom

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i always identified with the wrong person in the parable of the Good Samaritan. :(
i thought of myself as that person in the story.

when in fact, i was the one who crossed over the road...the priest, the Levite... the one who didn't stop to help.
and most of all, i am the beaten traveler in desperate need of assistance.
Christ... He's the OG Good Samaritan ;)

should we be good stewards of what God has entrusted to us? absolutely!
and might people take advantage of generosity? obviously.
still, we are to show mercy, as it has been shown to us. that's between us and God.
what people do with it... that's between them and God. :)
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I've had many different experiences with such things, but I've never spent / lost much money

I did test a girl that begged money of me once. She wanted my money, but refused my help when I offered to buy the ticket she claimed the needed and give it to her.... - she didn't get any money.
 

hornetguy

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Yup I quit on this idea a long time ago....it never comes back around and usually people abuse things nowadays.....
Re-think your reason for helping someone.... did the ORIGINAL "good Samaritan" help the hurt guy, expecting some kind of payback?
Did he expect it to "come back around"?

While we are expected to be wise with how we help people, we are certainly not supposed to do it for any kind of payback, or "brownie points" in heaven.
 
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Ultimatum77

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You all have very good hearts and answers...I just felt like these homeless people pretty much stabbed that woman who supported them in the heart ruthlessly with a bill after all that kindness. I'm sure at least for a while she will be wary of helping others at least for a few months until this "scar" blows over and she heals from this hurt they caused her....
 
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Yup I quit on this idea a long time ago....it never comes back around and usually people abuse things nowadays.....
So that's why you do good things? To have it come back around?
 
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psychomom

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You all have very good hearts and answers...I just felt like these homeless people pretty much stabbed that woman who supported them in the heart ruthlessly with a bill after all that kindness. I'm sure at least for a while she will be wary of helping others at least for a few months until this "scar" blows over and she heals from this hurt they caused her....
she may very well. :(

still... if she did it for the sake of Christ, it wasn't in vain.
don't give up hope :)