Trump: Lies or Just Stupid?

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peacenik

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renewed_hope said:
I think referring to Trump as the Antichrist is ludicrous and uncalled for. Yes, we are living in the end times but that doesn't mean that every person that we don't agree with their leadership is the Antichrist. If I remember correctly people thought Obama was the Antichrist....I mean c'mon
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if so then it follows that calling Hillary or Obama that is just as uncalled for
 
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CharlieGrown

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Okay, I'm going to do what rarely happens, I'm going to read it. Stand by.
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"However, looking at Scripture, Donald Trump fits the description of an antichrist, all
the way down to the fact that Christians are supporting him."

This is a gem.
 
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renewed_hope

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peacenik said:
if so then it follows that calling Hillary or Obama that is just as uncalled for
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For once I agree with you.....oh wait, you are agreeing with me haha!

Calling anyone in a leadership position the Antichrist, Satan or a demon monkey (lol) is not okay.
 
peacenik

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CharlieGrown said:
"However, looking at Scripture, Donald Trump fits the description of an antichrist, all
the way down to the fact that Christians are supporting him."

This is a gem.
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The writer does have a valid point - if Christians were not deceived by Antichrist, there is no way for him to come to power.
 
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CharlieGrown

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Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. (1 John 2:22-23 ESV)
"Just from these sections we can already make the argument that Trump is an antichrist"

When did Trump Deny Jesus is the Christ?
 
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peacenik said:
The writer does have a valid point - if Christians were not deceived by Antichrist, there is no way for him to come to power.
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You could deem spongebob the AC based on this logic.
 
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CharlieGrown

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I just took a dip in lake cray cray.
 
peacenik

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CharlieGrown said:
Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. (1 John 2:22-23 ESV)
"Just from these sections we can already make the argument that Trump is an antichrist"

When did Trump Deny Jesus is the Christ?
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Did you read the article???



"For Trump to say, “I do not ask God for forgiveness” means that he is rejecting the need of Christ as the savior and the way to God. He is essentially saying that he, in doing his own good works, can merit a relationship with God. Scripture teaches quite the opposite, where even Paul says, in Philippians 3 that even his good works, his zeal and his obedience to the law, were all in vain. It was all rubbish before God because his righteousness could only come from God.This point addresses the first two points of Scripture above. Trump is antichrist because he rejects what Christ stands for and who Christ is. Trump is antichrist for the same reason that Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton is antichrist: Because if you reject the clear teaching of Scripture, then you are antichrist. Jesus himself said that you are either for him, or against him. He said both, “Whoever is not with me, is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters” and “the one who is not against you, is for you.” Thus, the fact that Trump denies his need for forgiveness means that he rejects the premise of Christ as a necessary savior, and therefore he stands against what the bible clearly teaches, ergo, Trump is antichrist.''
 
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Not the same in my estimation, besides how do you know he hasn't since then confess to Christ. We can at least agree Hillary hasn't, right?
 
Test_F_i_2_Luv

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peacenik said:
That lie has been debunked numerous times on this forum:

Mike Pence Runs With Conservative Media Lie About Clinton Foundation’s Charitable Spending

PolitiFact and FactCheck both confirmed the actual truth.

Remember, ​thou shalt not bear false witness ...
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Using a left-wing source...

"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."
 
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CharlieGrown

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The water was soooo cold, must be the cray cray. Lol.
 
peacenik

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Test_F_i_2_Luv said:
Using a left-wing source...

"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."
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Thank you for admitting your bias by not reading the link as it quotes two non-partisan sources in PolitiFact and FactCheck.

It is just so easy to defeat these right wingers in these debates!
 
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CharlieGrown

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It is just so easy to defeat these right wingers in these debates!
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That's only because in your mind you always "win". Look at the scoreboard p'nik
 
Sirk

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How you can defend a party that kicked God off their convention floor on national tv is beyond me.....I win.
 
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Sirk said:
How you can defend a party that kicked God off their convention floor on national tv is beyond me.....I win.
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And cheered about it...
 
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peacenik said:
Thank you for admitting your bias by not reading the link as it quotes two non-partisan sources in PolitiFact and FactCheck. It is just so easy to defeat these right wingers in these debates!
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You sure are a soldier for your corrupted party ill give you credit for going down with the ship
 
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You sure are a soldier for your corrupted party ill give you credit for going down with the ship
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IDK....only captains are required to go down with the ship. The smart soldiers will find a life raft.
 
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And cheered about it...
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Not only that, but we had a democrat in office when they tried taking the subject of God out of our schools and attempted to take our rights away.


That doesn't fly with me. My number one priority is my faith and I will happily live my life for Christ and if that means sitting in jail for professing who resides in me then so be it....
 
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