Trump Outsmarts them again

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Nehemiah6

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That's an absurd argument
Talk to a doctor and ask him directly whether his religious/ philosophical/political beliefs influence his practice. Ask him to be totally candid. Are you aware that the majority of mental health practitioners refuse to believe that spirits and spiritual issues impact on mental health?
 

Dude653

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Unbelieving doctors are deceived and seduced by the wicked one just like the rest of the unbelieving world. Make no mistake. They have absolutely no problem violating their Hippocratic oath's or any other oaths to suit the whims of their wicked spiritual masters whom they serve.

The same goes for any authority.... FBI, judges, police. Whomever. The history books are filled with atrocities committed by just such people.

Truth be told, it is those who are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that are the ones who truly do good in this world.
Ad hominem much?
 

Dude653

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Talk to a doctor and ask him directly whether his religious/ philosophical/political beliefs influence his practice. Ask him to be totally candid. Are you aware that the majority of mental health practitioners refuse to believe that spirits and spiritual issues impact on mental health?
Yeah that's because they don't
if you have scientific evidence to the contrary then present it and collect her Nobel prize
 

Truth7t7

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I fail to see what liberalism or secular humanism have to do with his medical credentials
Covid19 is political, Fauci is politically noticed in many if his actions.

Do you see Fauci exposing his fellow Italian and Statesman in Governor Andrew Cuomo, for his criminal acts in (Mandating) infected elderly in New York, be received by uninfected Convalescent Hospitals and retirement homes?

Tens of thousands of the elderly died because of Cuomo's mandate?

As the Javits Center and Navy Hospital Ship, fully staffed with nurses and doctors sat empty?

Andrew Cuomo is a criminal, he should be sentenced to life imprisonment, that's my opinion.
 

cv5

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Covid19 is political, Fauci is politically noticed in many if his actions.

Do you see Fauci exposing his fellow Italian and Statesman in Governor Andrew Cuomo, for his criminal acts in (Mandating) infected elderly in New York, be received by uninfected Convalescent Hospitals and retirement homes?

Tens of thousands of the elderly died because of Cuomo's mandate?

As the Javits Center and Navy Hospital Ship, fully staffed with nurses and doctors sat empty?

Andrew Cuomo is a criminal, he should be sentenced to life imprisonment, that's my opinion.
In New Interview Bobby Kennedy Jr. Claims Dr. Fauci will Make Millions on Coronavirus Vaccine and Owns Half the Patent
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/unbelievable-new-interview-bobby-kennedy-jr-claims-dr-fauci-will-make-millions-coronavirus-vaccine-owns-half-patent
 
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Susanna

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Let’s just start with this one. It’s one of the many sources debunking the lethal craziness some of the posters here are advocating regarding COVID-19.

It’s truly sad, and dangerous, that people are buying into conspiracy theories claiming that “there is no COVID-19” or “there is a cure, hydroxychloroquine”.

If you people want to expose yourself to the dangers of this disease, so be it, but you are also putting others at risk.

https://khn.org/news/dont-fall-for-this-video-hydroxychloroquine-is-not-a-covid-19-cure/
 
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Susanna

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I see no reason to take you off ignore. So back to go!
This is the best decision you have made since you came here. Too bad you ain’t gonna read my response to you😁.

Debating with people that can’t handle the heat is not edifying. I’ve seen a lot of people here posting horrendous things and then go all whining about it when someone offers a rebuttal😂🤦‍♀️.
 

Nehemiah6

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It’s truly sad, and dangerous, that people are buying into conspiracy theories claiming that “there is no COVID-19” or “there is a cure, hydroxychloroquine”.
There were several poorly worded statements that went out by a certain doctor (who actually undermined her case with some bizarre statements). But that is not an excuse to continue attacking HCQ from the Left and by the so-called medical *experts* who are part of A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY to prevent the use of the HCQ Package.

HCQ is NOT a *cure* but it is a preventative treatment when used in the early stages of infection. What everyone should know -- and should have known from day one -- is that the package put together by Dr. Zelenko (made known to Trump) was not only cheap but effective.

However, when the so-called experts are calling for mandatory masking on one hand and literally sabotaging HCQ on the other hand, it means that a conspiracy is afoot (1) to continue with a high rate of deaths and (2) make billions off Remdesivir and the vaccine that is being tested currently.

This is NOT a "conspiracy theory* but a fact (which you had a duty to investigate from conservative news sources, not the garbage being broadcast by the MSM, who are lusting for more deaths from COVID-19)
If you people want to expose yourself to the dangers of this disease, so be it, but you are also putting others at risk.
This is the other myth about coronavirus -- which is simply another strain of flu. The statistics which have been gathered on this virus show that people under 45 are hardly at risk, and children are virtually exempt. The high risk people are those (1) over 65, (2) particularly over 85, and (3) already have underlying health conditions. The chart below is for deaths over a period of 3 1/2 months. Also deaths should not be presented as percentages but as deaths per 100,000 of the population, which dramatically changes how the numbers actually look.

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Truth7t7

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Let’s just start with this one. It’s one of the many sources debunking the lethal craziness some of the posters here are advocating regarding COVID-19.

It’s truly sad, and dangerous, that people are buying into conspiracy theories claiming that “there is no COVID-19” or “there is a cure, hydroxychloroquine”.

If you people want to expose yourself to the dangers of this disease, so be it, but you are also putting others at risk.

https://khn.org/news/dont-fall-for-this-video-hydroxychloroquine-is-not-a-covid-19-cure/
Please quote a forum poster and engage in debate.

Susanna isn't the mother guardian of this thread.
 

Nehemiah6

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Taking 103,339 as the total number of deaths on June 17 we need to do the following calculations:

1. Subtract over-reporting by at leas 25% (according to Dr. Birx). Which leaves us with a total of 77,504 deaths. Had HCQ been freely available and also FREE OF CHARGE, that number could have been possibly cut in half!

2. Since the total population of the USA is currently estimated at 330,000,000 we divide that number by 330,000,000 and get 0.00023486136.

4. To obtain the death rate, we multiply by 100,000 and get 23.5 deaths/100,000.

5. The death rate for flu in the USA is 14.9/100,000. So the COVID death rate is higher (and the situation in nursing homes should be factored in since that was where the majority of deaths occurred).
 

Truth7t7

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This is the best decision you have made since you came here. Too bad you ain’t gonna read my response to you😁.

Debating with people that can’t handle the heat is not edifying. I’ve seen a lot of people here posting horrendous things and then go all whining about it when someone offers a rebuttal😂🤦‍♀️.
To be honest, you are short on winning rebuttals in my observations and opinion.

You are voting for Joe Biden in Nov, and in my opinion, your views are that of a progressive Liberal that Biden is, simple.
 

gb9

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Let’s just start with this one. It’s one of the many sources debunking the lethal craziness some of the posters here are advocating regarding COVID-19.

It’s truly sad, and dangerous, that people are buying into conspiracy theories claiming that “there is no COVID-19” or “there is a cure, hydroxychloroquine”.

If you people want to expose yourself to the dangers of this disease, so be it, but you are also putting others at risk.

https://khn.org/news/dont-fall-for-this-video-hydroxychloroquine-is-not-a-covid-19-cure/
your source is kaiser permanente , which is 100% knee deep in the vaccine race for the covid vaccine .

so, kudos for doing research , but maybe not from a source that is financially incentivized to demonize hydroxy.
 
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I don't think Fauci thought or cares that this would eventually be found out.


This is fake. The research was on primate cells and HQC as an inhibitor and Dr. Fauci was not even one of the researchers.

SARS 1 disappeared as a virus before efficacious treatment was found.
 

cv5

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This is fake. The research was on primate cells and HQC as an inhibitor and Dr. Fauci was not even one of the researchers.

SARS 1 disappeared as a virus before efficacious treatment was found.
The article does not state that Doctor Fauci was one of the researchers per se. But clearly he was well aware of the research results. Furthermore it is a well established fact that HCQ is effective against all forms of coronaviruses, and the latest research proves conclusively that it is very effective against Covid 19.

Fauci has to go. Please Mr. Trump dismiss this man immediately he is a threat.
 

cv5

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MSNBC producer resigns from network with scathing letter: They block 'diversity of thought' and 'amplify fringe voices'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-producer-ariana-pekary-letter


Pekary, who described herself as an "integral member" of the MSNBC primetime show "The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell," used the "cancer" analogy to describe MSNBC's coverage of the coronavirus outbreak and the racial unrest in recent months, writing: "The model blocks diversity of thought and content because the networks have incentive to amplify fringe voices and events, at the expense of others… all because it pumps up the ratings."
 
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EleventhHour

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The article does not state that Doctor Fauci was one of the researchers per se. But clearly he was well aware of the research results. Furthermore it is a well established fact that HCQ is effective against all forms of coronaviruses, and the latest research proves conclusively that it is very effective against Covid 19.

Fauci has to go. Please Mr. Trump dismiss this man immediately he is a threat.
Please post a link to several double blind randomized studies.
My son has his PHd in engineering and you as a engineer should understand proper research.
 
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Please post a link to several double blind randomized studies.
My son has his PHd in engineering and you as a engineer should understand proper research.
How about "virology journal"
It is old,old news and IS EFFECTIVE.
You should be red hot mad at the duping we are in from political deranged experts.

""Due to the severity of SARS-CoV infection, the potential for rapid spread of the disease, and the absence of proven effective and safe in vivo inhibitors of the virus, it is important to identify drugs that can effectively be used to treat or prevent potential SARS-CoV infections. Many novel therapeutic approaches have been evaluated in laboratory studies of SARS-CoV: notable among these approaches are those using siRNA [7], passive antibody transfer [8], DNA vaccination [9], vaccinia or parainfluenza virus expressing the spike protein [10,11], interferons [12,13], and monoclonal antibody to the S1-subunit of the spike glycoprotein that blocks receptor binding [14]. In this report, we describe the identification of chloroquine as an effective pre- and post-infection antiviral agent for SARS-CoV. Chloroquine, a 9-aminoquinoline that was identified in 1934, is a weak base that increases the pH of acidic vesicles. When added extracellularly, the non-protonated portion of chloroquine enters the cell, where it becomes protonated and concentrated in acidic, low-pH organelles, such as endosomes, Golgi vesicles, and lysosomes. Chloroquine can affect virus infection in many ways, and the antiviral effect depends in part on the extent to which the virus utilizes endosomes for entry. Chloroquine has been widely used to treat human diseases, such as malaria, amoebiosis, HIV, and autoimmune diseases, without significant detrimental side effects [15] ""